Are there any Star Trek fans here? And has anyone watched Star Trek: Picard, Discovery, and/or Lower Decks?

I've seen Discovery through season 3 (I haven't started season 4 yet, though I plan to). I thought a couple things were a little odd (technology, and Klingon re-design), but I still watched it for the entertainment. I've been getting a little tired of the prequel trend though (and I've heard the upcoming Star Trek: Strange New Worlds will be yet another prequel, set on the Enterprise commanded by Christipher Pike, set before the Kirk yers).

I've also watched Star Trek: Picard season 1, and I'm looking forward to season 2 (which is coming out very soon). It's not the same style of Star Trek as The Next Generation, but that's okay. I like that it continues the story of Picard, and it seems to be fairly consistent with canon (one exception is that there was one episode that showed a hologram of the original NCC-1701 Enterprise that looked like the redesigned one from Discovery, but I don't think that's a big deal).

I've seen some of Lower Decks (most of season 1, and I plan to continue watching). It's interesting to see a Star Trek cartoon that's canon, and it has a fairly humorous take on Star Trek - I like it.


I feel like it's a little odd that there have been several prequel series and movies now (first Enterprise, 2001-2005, then Discovery, and the JJ Abrams movies). There was about 100 years (I think) between the original series and the Next Generation, and I've often thought it would be interesting to see a Star Trek TV series or movie (or two) set on the Enterprise B or C - We've only seen those ships once in the Star Trek canon.

Also, I've been a bit disappointed that there have not been any movies made with the Deep Space 9 or Voyager casts (the exception is that Admiral Janeway appeared in one of the Next Generation movies). I thought the Next Generation movies went downhill a bit too; I wasn't really impressed with Nemesis.

Re: Current Star Trek shows
By: Nightfox to All on Tue Mar 01 2022 11:05 am

Also, I've been a bit disappointed that there have not been any movies made with th
Deep Space 9 or Voyager casts (the exception is that Admiral Janeway appeared in on
of the Next Generation movies). I thought the Next Generation movies went downhill
bit too; I wasn't really impressed with Nemesis.

I am ok not having more from Voyager. The captain of that ship always got to my nerves. I think she was trying her ship never to return home or something.

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Re: Current Star Trek shows
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Tue Mar 01 2022 06:20 pm

I am ok not having more from Voyager. The captain of that ship always got to my nerves. I think she was trying her ship never to return home or something.

Although they wanted to get home, if they took the fastest route possible (including not immmediately destroying the array that got them stranded), there wouldn't have been a show to last 7 seasons. :P By the time they decided to end the show, I did think they ended up getting home rather suddenly and fast. I guess they had to do that to give the show an appropriate ending, but it just seemed a bit sudden.

Re: Current Star Trek shows
By: Nightfox to Arelor on Tue Mar 01 2022 05:02 pm

Re: Current Star Trek shows
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Tue Mar 01 2022 06:20 pm

I am ok not having more from Voyager. The captain of that ship always got to m
nerves. I think she was trying her ship never to return home or something.

Although they wanted to get home, if they took the fastest route possible (includin
not immmediately destroying the array that got them stranded), there wouldn't have
been a show to last 7 seasons. :P By the time they decided to end the show, I did
think they ended up getting home rather suddenly and fast. I guess they had to do
that to give the show an appropriate ending, but it just seemed a bit sudden.

I would have prefered it if the ship was destroyed with all the crew due to some or
Janeway's usual screwups.

"Yeah, I know we are all gonna die unless we land on that planet, and the evil guys
are shooting at us, but we are not going to return fire because we are all good and
kumbaya!"

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Re: Current Star Trek shows
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Mar 02 2022 09:58 am

Although they wanted to get home, if they took the fastest route
possible (includin not immmediately destroying the array that got them
stranded), there wouldn't have been a show to last 7 seasons. :P By

I would have prefered it if the ship was destroyed with all the crew due to some or Janeway's usual screwups.

That wouldn't have made for a very good ending either.. :P

Nightfox

Re: Star Trek: Voyager
By: Nightfox to Arelor on Wed Mar 02 2022 09:38 am

Re: Current Star Trek shows
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Mar 02 2022 09:58 am

Although they wanted to get home, if they took the fastest route
possible (includin not immmediately destroying the array that got them
stranded), there wouldn't have been a show to last 7 seasons. :P By

I would have prefered it if the ship was destroyed with all the crew du to some or Janeway's usual screwups.

That wouldn't have made for a very good ending either.. :P

Nightfox

Oh, it would have.

If the heroes are whimps and pushovers, I start rooting for the bad guys.

Voyager has the dubious honor of nerfing the Borg beyond respectability.

Then there was the species from beyond space who were so evil not even the Borg wanted to deal with them, but then they were turned into kumbaya victims who only wanted a better life. Within the same season.

"I am Death, the Destroyer of Universes! This Reality of yours will be my bitch, and I will have all your kind as snack!" (two episodes later) "I am a poor opresed missfit. I need a hug. Hug me or I will cry."

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Nightfox wrote to Arelor <=-

Although they wanted to get home, if they took the fastest route
possible (including not immmediately destroying the array that got them stranded), there wouldn't have been a show to last 7 seasons. :P By
the time they decided to end the show, I did think they ended up
getting home rather suddenly and fast. I guess they had to do that to give the show an appropriate ending, but it just seemed a bit sudden.

And, what if they'd high-tailed it to the other end of the Bajoran wormhole?


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Re: Re: Current Star Trek shows
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Wed Mar 02 2022 06:44 am

Although they wanted to get home, if they took the fastest route
possible (including not immmediately destroying the array that got
them stranded), there wouldn't have been a show to last 7 seasons.
:P By the time they decided to end the show, I did think they ended
up getting home rather suddenly and fast. I guess they had to do
that to give the show an appropriate ending, but it just seemed a
bit sudden.

And, what if they'd high-tailed it to the other end of the Bajoran wormhole?

They could have done that too. But I thought that may have been a bit far from them too. I don't remember where that went now - I thought it might have been somewhere in the beta quadrant?

Nightfox

Voyager has the dubious honor of nerfing the Borg beyond respectability.

Can we discuss Janeway and Paris's lizard babies?

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Re: Star Trek: Voyager
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Mar 02 2022 05:04 pm

Voyager has the dubious honor of nerfing the Borg beyond respectability.

Yeah, I felt like Voyager did a bit too much with the Borg.

Then there was the species from beyond space who were so evil not even the Borg wanted to deal with them, but then they were turned into kumbaya victims who only wanted a better life. Within the same season.

It's not that the Borg didn't want to deal with them. Actually, the Borg tried. It was the Borg going into their space to try to assimiliate them in the first place that brought them out into normal space. And then the Borg agreed to work with Voyager on a weapon to try to defeat them.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Star Trek: Voyager
By: Sporathan to Arelor on Thu Mar 03 2022 09:21 pm

Can we discuss Janeway and Paris's lizard babies?

I heard even the producers don't discuss that anymore and don't consider it canon.

Nightfox

On 03 Mar 2022, Nightfox said the following...

I heard even the producers don't discuss that anymore and don't consider it canon.

I still think they shouldn't have abandoned them and used their human DNA to turn them into Real Children (TM). Imagine the dynamic of Tom and Janeway being single parents, shared custody, but while also having to work together and have a commander/subordinate relationship. Plus Naomi would've had someone to play with :D.

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I still think they shouldn't have abandoned them and used their human
DNA to turn them into Real Children (TM). Imagine the dynamic of Tom
and Janeway being single parents, shared custody, but while also having
to work together and have a commander/subordinate relationship. Plus Naomi would've had someone to play with :D.

They could've turned it into a Saturday morning cartoon.

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Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

And, what if they'd high-tailed it to the other end of the Bajoran wormhole?

They could have done that too. But I thought that may have been a bit
far from them too. I don't remember where that went now - I thought it might have been somewhere in the beta quadrant?

If you picture a clock face, Earth is at 6 o'clock, roughly in the middle of the face. Voyager was at around 2 o'clock, The Delta quadrant end was around 10 o'clock, a little closer to the edge of the clock face.


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On 03-04-22 06:46, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-

If you picture a clock face, Earth is at 6 o'clock, roughly in the
middle of the face. Voyager was at around 2 o'clock, The Delta quadrant end was around 10 o'clock, a little closer to the edge of the clock
face.

That doesn't make any sense, since Voyager was in the Delta quadrant. I'm guessing you meant that the far end of the Bajoran Wormhole in the Gamma quadrant was near 10 o'clock. ;)

(sanity check complete.) ;)


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Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

On 03-04-22 06:46, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-

That doesn't make any sense, since Voyager was in the Delta quadrant.
I'm guessing you meant that the far end of the Bajoran Wormhole in the Gamma quadrant was near 10 o'clock. ;)

You are correct, Sir.

It seems conveniently placed so as to not make running for the wormhole an option. We'd have less Borg and more Dominion stories floating around.


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On 03-11-22 06:34, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

That doesn't make any sense, since Voyager was in the Delta quadrant.
I'm guessing you meant that the far end of the Bajoran Wormhole in the Gamma quadrant was near 10 o'clock. ;)

You are correct, Sir.

It seems conveniently placed so as to not make running for the wormhole
an option. We'd have less Borg and more Dominion stories floating
around.

Yes, it's possible for them to be a long way apart. These two sites could be easily over 50k light years apart, making it not viable for Voyager to make a run for the Bajoran wormhole.


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And, what if they'd high-tailed it to the other end of the Bajoran wormhole?

OMG!!!! I am so OVER people asking this question. Just proves they don't know the first things about the shows OR the universe!

The Bajoran wormhole goes between the Alpha and Delta quadrants. Voyager was stuck in the GAMMA quadrant! Was a shorter flight back to the Alpha Quadrant then to have gone to Delta to get to Alpha!
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Can we discuss Janeway and Paris's lizard babies?

I heard even the producers don't discuss that anymore and don't consider it canon.

It was a bad dream, it never happened, never mention it again. :P
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Re: Re: ST:V
By: Geri Atricks to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Mar 12 2022 12:18 pm

And, what if they'd high-tailed it to the other end of the Bajoran
wormhole?

OMG!!!! I am so OVER people asking this question. Just proves they don't know the first things about the shows OR the universe!

The Bajoran wormhole goes between the Alpha and Delta quadrants. Voyager was stuck in the GAMMA quadrant! Was a shorter flight back to the Alpha Quadrant then to have gone to Delta to get to Alpha! ---

Unless you're being sarcastic, I think you have those backwards.. The other end of the Bajoran wormhole was in the Gamma quadrant, and Voyager was stuck in the Delta quadrant.

Nightfox

Unless you're being sarcastic, I think you have those backwards.. The other end of the Bajoran wormhole was in the Gamma quadrant, and
Voyager was stuck in the Delta quadrant.

You're right, had them backwards, but still the point remains that they were in different quadrants.
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