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  • Re: BBSing on CP/M

    From mrtinb@21:1/126 to Otto Reverse on Mon Sep 5 01:16:56 2022
    My favourite activity on any retro computer that isn't game-focused is BBSing. So I "need" VT100 emulation for that to satisfy my expectations for what a BBS session should be like.

    I think the main problem here is, that most BBS'es require 80 columns. Most
    of my retro computers supply 32, 40 or 64. That make it a subset I can use
    for BBSing.

    /Mrtinb, Denmark

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to mrtinb on Fri Sep 9 22:59:00 2022
    I think the main problem here is, that most BBS'es require 80 columns. Most of my retro computers supply 32, 40 or 64. That make it a subset
    I can use for BBSing.

    Most "modern" BBS would be 80cols when you're at ~40cols, have to admit
    having never seen a 64col display thats and odd one... Mostly you're going to be limited to BBS of the same kind of vintage.

    A lot of "old" Apple II+ systems were only 40 col, and for the most part
    you'd be limited to using a BBS running on another Apple II+, mind you even
    the far better equipped IIgs couldn't manage a reliable ANSI emulation,
    usually having to resort to graphics to display any colours, and then
    rendering issues due to limited processor speed.

    Spec


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  • From Dr. What@21:1/203 to Spectre on Wed Sep 14 07:56:25 2022
    Most "modern" BBS would be 80cols when you're at ~40cols, have to admit having never seen a 64col display thats and odd one... Mostly you're

    The TRS-80 Model I and III were 64 columns.

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  • From Commodore Clifford@21:3/171 to Spectre on Tue Sep 13 16:13:00 2022
    I'd have to say... a lot of the 40/80 column stuff is present in the
    Atari BBS scene too. Most of the ST boards don't handle 40 col all that
    well (as they were mostly 80) and even though there were a few Atari 8
    bit terms that supported 80 col, most Atari BBS's have only ASCII support
    for 80 col (some may do ANSI or 80 col ATASCII).

    So there are a few 40 col BBS's out there in the Atari scene at least.
    Quite a few.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Dr. What on Fri Sep 16 19:09:00 2022
    The TRS-80 Model I and III were 64 columns.

    Interesting, I recall many fun and frustrating times playing Raaka-tu on a model 1, wasn't mine... I have to admit not counting the columns... but I thought it had 80... even back then... shrug.. there we go, you can still
    learn something new every other day :)

    Spec


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  • From Dr. What@21:1/203 to Spectre on Sun Sep 18 14:26:46 2022
    Interesting, I recall many fun and frustrating times playing Raaka-tu on
    a model 1, wasn't mine... I have to admit not counting the columns...
    but I thought it had 80... even back then... shrug.. there we go, you
    can still learn something new every other day :)

    Well, at that time, there was only the Commodore PET and Apple II. I know the PET was 40 columns (the 80 column models didn't come out until much later). I'm not sure about the Apple, but I'm pretty sure it was 40 colums as well.

    So the TRS-80 looked much more like an 80 column display compared to the others.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Dr. What on Mon Sep 19 19:43:00 2022
    Well, at that time, there was only the Commodore PET and Apple II. I know the PET was 40 columns (the 80 column models didn't come out until much later). I'm not sure about the Apple, but I'm pretty sure it was 40 colums as well.

    That is I s'pose pretty true. Apple's would've come out of the factory
    40cols at that stage of their lives... most 80col cards I can find are ~1981.. the odd one as far back as 1979 but you can imagine they would've been hideously expensive at the time.

    I didn't really have much to do with them until about 1984 or so and pretty much everything was 80 by then.. the II would've been obsolete in favour of
    the IIe which came with the 80col pre installed.

    Spec


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  • From phigan@21:4/137 to Spectre on Tue Sep 27 06:37:25 2022
    With the exception of a couple default files, which you can easily edit, Synchronet does a really nice job at displaying things for me at 40 columns.
    I connect into the BBS with 40 column ASCII from the Atari and 40 column PETSCII (yes, it converts all the ANSI to PETSCII!) from the C64 pretty
    often. It's really cool how you could almost think it was a C64 BBS. If you'd like to see an example, try tacopronto.bbs.io. For regular ANSI and ASCII,
    use port 23. For PETSCII use port 2064 for 40 columns and 2128 for 80 columns.

    It's just the login screen that is in 80 columns.

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