WELL, I HAVE THE ULTIMATE ╔╔█ WORKING AND A TERMINAL APP THAT CAN USE ITS EMULATED MODEM, BUT MY BBS CLEARLY NEEDS SOME WORK DONE RELATED TO SUPPORTIN ¥G 40 COLUMNS. THIS IS INTOLERABLLLLLLLLLE!
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Hrm... That looked a *little bit* different when I typed it in on the Commodore 64. lol

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On 11 May 23 22:06:39 Abbub wrote...

WELL, I HAVE THE ULTIMATE ╔╔█ WORKING AND A TERMINAL APP THAT CAN USE
ITS EMULATED MODEM, BUT MY BBS CLEARLY NEEDS SOME WORK DONE RELATED
TO SUPPORTIN ¥G 40 COLUMNS. THIS IS INTOLERABLLLLLLLLLE! ])¥¥:)

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To which Commodore Clifford replies...

DARKLORD MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT.

He just did an overhaul of his Atari ST BBS to do 40 columns.

Personally, I don't see the point, since those 8-bitters always poopoo on
us ST BBSs anyway. :P

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On 12 May 23 08:40:13 Abbub wrote...

Hrm... That looked a *little bit* different when I typed it in on the Commodore 64. lol

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To which Commodore Clifford replies...

I noticed that before with Petscii... is the upper and lower actually
flipped on their table or is it a problem with some of the terms Petscii emulation?

I mean, I could google it I'm sure, but as an Atarian that offends my sensibilities. :)

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I noticed that before with Petscii... is the upper and lower actually flipped on their table or is it a problem with some of the terms
Petscii emulation?

If memory serves (which is questionable, these days), it's flipped on their table due to how it was originally implmented on the VIC-20 and they never changed it for compatibility reasons. It's (highly) likely that the terminal app is capable of taking care of that for me, but I literally just fired it
up to test a) 40 columns on the bbs and b) the Ultimate II+ I picked up a few months back.

For what it's worth, if the 8-bitters are shitting on the 16-bitters these days, it's almost certainly just in retaliation for the unmitigated amounts
of crap 16-bitters gave 8-bitters back in the day. :D Oh, how the turns have tabled.

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On 13 May 23 08:28:50 Abbub wrote...

For what it's worth, if the 8-bitters are shitting on the 16-bitters
these days, it's almost certainly just in retaliation for the
unmitigated amounts of crap 16-bitters gave 8-bitters back in the
day. :D Oh, how the turns have tabled.

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To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Maybe for the Commodore crowd... for the Atari crowd I think it had more
to do with the "ST's aren't really Atari" due to mommy and daddy hooking
up with each other's spouse.

Broken families. :)

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WELL, I HAVE THE ULTIMATE ╔╔█ WORKING AND A TERMINAL APP THAT CAN USE ITS EMULATED MODEM, BUT MY BBS CLEARLY NEEDS SOME WORK DONE RELATED TO SUPPORTIN ¥G 40 COLUMNS. THIS IS INTOLERABLLLLLLLLLE!
])¥¥:)

STILL AMAZING AS I CAN READ YOU CLEAR!

... Xerox Alto was the thing. Anything after we use is just a mere copy.

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On 13 May 23 07:00:14 Commodore Clifford wrote...

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

DARKLORD MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT.

He just did an overhaul of his Atari ST BBS to do 40 columns.

Personally, I don't see the point, since those 8-bitters always
poopoo on us ST BBSs anyway. :P

To which Darklord replies...

Well, not familiar with C64 stuff but if there's anything I can do to
help I'd be glad to try.

"8-bitters always poopoo on us ST BBS's anyway".

Heard that...or at least it seems that way sometimes. :)


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On 13 May 23 08:28:50 Abbub wrote...

For what it's worth, if the 8-bitters are shitting on the 16-bitters
these days, it's almost certainly just in retaliation for the
unmitigated amounts of crap 16-bitters gave 8-bitters back in the
day. :D Oh, how the turns have tabled.

To which Darklord replies...

For what it's worth, I never did that (unless it was in jest!). Not
really sure what grounds 8bitters would have to dump on the later
machines, TBH.


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On 17 May 23 00:45:50 Commodore Clifford wrote...

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Maybe for the Commodore crowd... for the Atari crowd I think it had
more to do with the "ST's aren't really Atari" due to mommy and daddy hooking up with each other's spouse.

Broken families. :)

To which Darklord replies...

Of course they're Atari's... :)


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"8-bitters always poopoo on us ST BBS's anyway".

To which Bf2K+ replies...

Hmmm... I could say the same thing about the ST'ers... at least I call
the ST BBSes every day!!!

<HINT>

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On 23 May 23 19:57:10 Bf2K+ wrote...

"8-bitters always poopoo on us ST BBS's anyway".

To which Bf2K+ replies...

Hmmm... I could say the same thing about the ST'ers... at least I
call the ST BBSes every day!!!

<HINT>

To which Darklord replies...

You replied to me but I'm fairly certain that's not my quote. :)


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On 21 May 23 23:39:38 Darklord wrote...

To which Darklord replies...

Well, not familiar with C64 stuff but if there's anything I can do to
help I'd be glad to try.

"8-bitters always poopoo on us ST BBS's anyway".

Heard that...or at least it seems that way sometimes. :)

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Eh... they're just jelly.

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On 21 May 23 23:50:40 Darklord wrote...

On 13 May 23 08:28:50 Abbub wrote...

For what it's worth, if the 8-bitters are shitting on the
16-bitters these days, it's almost certainly just in retaliation
for the unmitigated amounts of crap 16-bitters gave 8-bitters
back in the day. :D Oh, how the turns have tabled.

To which Darklord replies...

For what it's worth, I never did that (unless it was in jest!). Not
really sure what grounds 8bitters would have to dump on the later
machines, TBH.

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

It's just the family drama... Daddy went to live with his new Amiga and
we got a new Stepdaddy Tramiel.

Though I think from the BBS standpoint, it might have been that by the
time the 16 bits came into prominence (especially in BBS land) they had
moved away from BBS's and perhaps on to PCs. Probably why there is less nostalgia for them except from the crowd who actually stuck with the
Atari (or Commodore/Apple) machines longer and ran BBSs under those
platforms.

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On 21 May 23 23:52:02 Darklord wrote...

On 17 May 23 00:45:50 Commodore Clifford wrote...

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Maybe for the Commodore crowd... for the Atari crowd I think it
had more to do with the "ST's aren't really Atari" due to mommy
and daddy hooking up with each other's spouse.

Broken families. :)

To which Darklord replies...

Of course they're Atari's... :)

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Right! It even says so on the label!

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On 23 May 23 19:57:10 Bf2K+ wrote...

"8-bitters always poopoo on us ST BBS's anyway".

To which Bf2K+ replies...

Hmmm... I could say the same thing about the ST'ers... at least I
call the ST BBSes every day!!!

<HINT>

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Yeah... I'm sorry. Been slow at getting back on my rounds. :(

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On 28 May 23 12:38:30 Commodore Clifford wrote...

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Right! It even says so on the label!

To which Darklord replies...

And that's good enough for me...! :)



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WELL, I HAVE THE ULTIMATE ╔╔█ WORKING AND A TERMINAL APP THAT CAN USE ITS EMULATED MODEM, BUT MY BBS CLEARLY NEEDS SOME WORK DONE RELATED TO SUPPORTIN ¥G 40 COLUMNS. THIS IS INTOLERABLLLLLLLLLE!

TIRED of waiting 2 hours for a taco? Go to TacoPronto!
tacopronto.bbs.io:2064 from the C64

... 24 hours in a day and 24 beers in a case. Hmmmm...

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On 20 May 23 09:29:23 phigan wrote...

... 24 hours in a day and 24 beers in a case. Hmmmm...

To which Darklord replies...

It is NOT coincidence...! :)


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On 20 May 23 09:29:23 phigan wrote...

... 24 hours in a day and 24 beers in a case. Hmmmm...

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Uh.... no.

If the liver can metabolize 1 beer in 1 hour, you'll never even get a
good enough buzz at that pace... not unless you weigh like 50 pounds.

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On 08 Jun 23 09:54:40 Darklord wrote...

On 20 May 23 09:29:23 phigan wrote...

... 24 hours in a day and 24 beers in a case. Hmmmm...

To which Darklord replies...

It is NOT coincidence...! :)

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Underachiever.

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On 11 Jun 23 15:28:26 Commodore Clifford wrote...

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Underachiever.

To which Darklord replies...

Are you forgetting that there's 7 days in a week...365 days a year (366
in leap year)? :)


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On 15 Jun 23 14:17:04 Darklord wrote...

On 11 Jun 23 15:28:26 Commodore Clifford wrote...

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Underachiever.

To which Darklord replies...

Are you forgetting that there's 7 days in a week...365 days a year
(366 in leap year)? :)

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Well, ok... then there is not only the liver's rate of metabolizing the
booze, but also building a tolerance.

At THAT pace, you'd have to eventually drink a 24 pack JUST TO BE SOBER.

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On 15 Jun 23 22:06:26 Commodore Clifford wrote...

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Well, ok... then there is not only the liver's rate of metabolizing
the booze, but also building a tolerance.

At THAT pace, you'd have to eventually drink a 24 pack JUST TO BE
SOBER.

To which Darklord replies...

What a concept! INVERSEIntoxication! A relative of INVERSEAtascii?
Perhaps? :)


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If the liver can metabolize 1 beer in 1 hour, you'll never even get a
good enough buzz at that pace... not unless you weigh like 50 pounds.

Well it wouldn't necessarily be one beer PER hour, you need sleep and such. It's probably more like 16 hours or so that you have for drinking, but there are still 24 beers^H^H^H^H^H^H hours in a day.

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On 22 Jun 23 11:15:14 phigan wrote...

If the liver can metabolize 1 beer in 1 hour, you'll never even
get a good enough buzz at that pace... not unless you weigh like
50 pounds.

Well it wouldn't necessarily be one beer PER hour, you need sleep and
such. It's probably more like 16 hours or so that you have for
drinking, but there are still 24 beers^H^H^H^H^H^H hours in a day.

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To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Sleep is for the weak.

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