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From: CX2SA@CX2SA.SAL.URY.SOAM
To : SATDIG@WW

Today's Topics:

1. MacDoppler 2.3 (Burns Fisher)
2. Tis the season! An election appeal. (Michelle Thompson)
3. Board of Directors Election (Paul Stoetzer)
4. Re: MacDoppler 2.3 (Steve Nordahl)
5. Re: MacDoppler 2.3 (Burns Fisher)
6. Anyone on EO-88? (Lapo Pieri)
7. Re: Anyone on EO-88? (Jeff Johns)
8. Re: Anyone on EO-88? (Lapo Pieri)
9. CAS-7B (BP-1B) TLE Update (Alan Kung)
10. Re: CAS-7B (BP-1B) TLE Update (Pedro Converso)
11. Re: Anyone on EO-88? (Mark D. Johns)
12. Re: Anyone on EO-88? (Roy Dean)
13. Re: Anyone on EO-88? (Mark D. Johns)
14. Re: Anyone on EO-88? (Lapo Pieri)
15. Re: Anyone on EO-88? (Lapo Pieri)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:33:58 -0400
From: Burns Fisher <wb1fj-bb@??????.??>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] MacDoppler 2.3
Message-ID: <CABX7KxVfAWztWcpMFoWcg1P8RQtDK0soHQSoK9i9ex8CbxqmuQ@????.?????.???> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Just to help out someone else using MacDoppler.

I believe but that for previous versions, you set the tone for a satellite
the the tone number in the radio (at least mine was set for 1). MacDoppler
2.3 wants the tone in Hz. Much more sensible, except that it does not fix
up your existing value. It took me some searching to figure out why 1) I
was not turning on AO-85, and (2) when I realized I was not sending a tone,
why MacDoppler was not setting the tone on my TS-2000.

BTW, after manually turning on the tone, I got AO-85, and after the pass,
and fixing my entries in MacDoppler, it now sets the radio correctly.

73,

Burns WB1FJ


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 08:31:10 -0700
From: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tis the season! An election appeal.
Message-ID: <CACvjz2UmM_yK7=SMqaZiaTvQ9HMJEdZua5N_Ka-adcxU9dgEFg@????.?????.???> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

If you're a member of AMSAT North America, please consider voting for me
for the upcoming election. Ballots are out! Voting closes September 15th.

Here's my candidate statement and qualifications: https://w5nyv.blogspot.com/2019/05/candidate-statement-amsat-na-board-of.html

Many of you read it when it was posted in May, and asked excellent
questions!

I answered them here in a followup: https://w5nyv.blogspot.com/2019/06/campaign-statement-21-june-2019-amsat.html

Here's a letter from Bruce Perens, co-founder of Open Research Institute,
Inc. about the campaign. https://perens.com/static/AMSAT/Election2019.html

Thank you so much for the support and consideration. The campaign has been
a very positive experience, with lots of contacts made and encouragement received. Our community is well worth the effort!

Regardless of the results, I'll keep doing all the work that I have been
doing for advanced digital payloads and ground systems. All of the work I
do is open source and open access with international collaboration.
Bringing this successful management and technical practice to AMSAT is my
goal. It will make a substantial positive difference in all aspects of the organization.

Thank you!

-Michelle W5NYV


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 13:28:40 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Board of Directors Election
Message-ID: <CABzOSOo0Zwvuu2fbYpTmzsio=GDtACZ-EPa2Hz0rB-Zc8PRcYA@????.?????.???> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

With reports that ballots for the 2019 AMSAT Board of Directors
election have begun to arrive in member's mailboxes today, I'd like to
take this opportunity to ask that AMSAT members vote for me, my fellow incumbent directors, Jerry Buxton, N0JY and Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA,
and Brennan Price, N4QX.

I have posted some more detailed information about the work we've
done, my views, and plans for the future at http://www.n8hm.net

If you have any questions, please email me at n8hm@?????.??? and I
will answer them as soon as possible.

With your support, we will continue our work to keep amateur radio in
space for another 50 years and beyond.

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 18:04:33 +0000 (UTC)
From: Steve Nordahl <ns3l@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] MacDoppler 2.3
Message-ID: <851167347.3917349.1563473073160@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Burns, I posted this same response on FB.
I asked for this change some time ago and Don made the change in Version
2.30 Beta 4.Here's what I asked for initially..

Don,

This topic has come up by other users asking this question so I'm posing it
to you.. Currently users have to refer to a tone list to select the the
correct TX tone for editing satellites. In the case of SO-50 for example..
Why can't we manually enter the working or wake-up tone of 67.0 (1 in this case) or 74.4 (3 in this case) rather than cross check a list to find out
what tone number 1 or 3 means?

Don's response.. "Version 2.30 Beta 4 requires the actual tone and ctcss
values to be stored in mode.dat (e.g. 67.0) and the Modes editor - zero or blank still signifies no tone."

Steve Nordahl, NS3L



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 17:16:57 -0400
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: Steve Nordahl <ns3l@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] MacDoppler 2.3
Message-ID: <CABX7KxUYLytTgA3Ra1GSkQX5Y-G9Lwi9Dbk=bFKJm=j4RKRqwA@????.?????.???> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Thank you for doing this Steve. I think it is a big improvement. The only issue to me is that MacDoppler neither complained at an old-style value nor automatically fixed it. (It could have told it was wrong with a TS-2000.
I don't know about other radios--perhaps the best it could do is the first
time 2.3 was run notice that there were any tones on the mode page and put
up a warning dialog box).

73,

Burns


On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 2:06 PM Steve Nordahl via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

Burns, I posted this same response on FB.
I asked for this change some time ago and Don made the change in Version
2.30 Beta 4.Here's what I asked for initially..

Don,

This topic has come up by other users asking this question so I'm posing
it to you.. Currently users have to refer to a tone list to select the the correct TX tone for editing satellites. In the case of SO-50 for example.. Why can't we manually enter the working or wake-up tone of 67.0 (1 in this case) or 74.4 (3 in this case) rather than cross check a list to find out what tone number 1 or 3 means?

Don's response.. "Version 2.30 Beta 4 requires the actual tone and ctcss values to be stored in mode.dat (e.g. 67.0) and the Modes editor - zero or blank still signifies no tone."

Steve Nordahl, NS3L

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 23:11:27 +0200
From: Lapo Pieri <ik5nax@???????????.??>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
Message-ID: <20190718211127.GB6645@??????>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi,
few minutes ago I've called for half a pass over Europe when EO-88 was
in eclipse but no signal hrd, except mine... anybody use EO-88?

73, de Lapo IK5NAX


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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 16:34:26 -0500
From: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
Message-ID: <86EE3C6F-51C4-4190-87C2-8B4C8DB87D7B@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

It is used here in North America but just barely. It?s a great satellite
but, like most linear transponders, it?s woefully underused.

Jeff WE4B

On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:11 PM, Lapo Pieri via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>

wrote:

Hi,
few minutes ago I've called for half a pass over Europe when EO-88 was
in eclipse but no signal hrd, except mine... anybody use EO-88?

73, de Lapo IK5NAX
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 00:08:02 +0200
From: Lapo Pieri <ik5nax@???????????.??>
To: Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
Message-ID: <20190718220802.GC6645@??????>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

16:34 Thu 18 Jul 19 , Jeff Johns via AMSAT-BB wrote:

It is used here in North America but just barely. It?s a great satellite

but, like most linear transponders, it?s woefully underused.

Sad, but I agree

Lapo IK5NAX


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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 06:34:41 +0800 (CST)
From: "Alan Kung" <camsat@???.???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B (BP-1B) TLE Update
Message-ID: <353bf0c1.db7c2.16c07392406.Coremail.camsat@???.???.???> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GBK


Planned to launch CAS-7B at 05:00:00UTC on July 25, 2019, the launch vehicle Hyperbola-1 will run for 862.0206 seconds and then CAS-7B satellite will be deployed at 05:14:22.0206

CAS-7B(BP-1B)
1 99999U 19206.21831019 -.00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 00001
2 99999 042.7339 008.2068 0013606 285.8754 218.2911 15.94575754000011

73
Alan, BA1DU



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:06:04 -0300
From: Pedro Converso <pconver@?????.???>
To: Alan Kung <camsat@???.???.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CAS-7B (BP-1B) TLE Update
Message-ID: <CANTZqK=be1qGFOE3bGq+3RwSU_RCda9b8vpvKM6_aMt8jSWYEA@????.?????.???> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Thanks Alan for new Keps, will try copy.

Pass/freq at http://amsat.org.ar/pass?satx=cas7b

Good luck on launch,

73, lu7abf, Pedro

On 7/18/19, Alan Kung via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

Planned to launch CAS-7B at 05:00:00UTC on July 25, 2019, the launch vehicle Hyperbola-1 will run for 862.0206 seconds and then CAS-7B satellite will be deployed at 05:14:22.0206

CAS-7B(BP-1B)
1 99999U 19206.21831019 -.00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 00001
2 99999 042.7339 008.2068 0013606 285.8754 218.2911 15.94575754000011

73
Alan, BA1DU

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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:51:28 -0500
From: "Mark D. Johns" <mjohns+K0JM@??????.???>
To: Lapo Pieri <ik5nax@???????????.??>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
Message-ID: <CAHKCqnDAn71_fzXD+R85efmUtKciRbUYYK604kE4kyc3UfftUA@????.?????.???> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

EO-88 is in a low inclination orbit and so stays close to the equator. Many
of us in the northern part of the continental U.S. and Canada cannot access
it because it never passes far enough north for us to be in the footprint.

That said, it can sometimes be lonely on linear satellites on passes that
cover much of the continental U.S. I can?t understand why people would
prefer to step all over one another on a single channel FM bird rather than spread out on a nice passband.

Yes, the linears require a bit more effort, technical skill, and possibly a
bit more of a monetary investment. But by finding some bargains on used
gear and learning a bit more about how things work, they are well within
reach of the average ham.

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 16:20 Lapo Pieri via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

Hi,
few minutes ago I've called for half a pass over Europe when EO-88 was
in eclipse but no signal hrd, except mine... anybody use EO-88?

73, de Lapo IK5NAX
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Luther College, Decorah, Iowa USA
Now residing in Minneapolis, Minn. ------------------------------------------------
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---Mark Twain


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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 07:08:45 -0400
From: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
Message-ID: <CADGPg2tzn3_oLraCx3v-Ueq+fjctdZFwEPp_DcvoYJ-w_havfw@????.?????.???> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

What I can't understand is that people continue to shame other hams for not operating on the linears. Having only just recently obtained the
equipment necessary to work the linears (and then, only at the shack, my equipment is not portable in any way), I can say that it was not cheap nor
easy to do. Working the FM birds is both far cheaper and easier, for
sure.

Those that are stuck on the FM birds are likely not doing it by choice.
It's all they have. Please keep that in mind.

--Roy
K3RLD

EO-88 is in a low inclination orbit and so stays close to the equator. Many of us in the northern part of the continental U.S. and Canada cannot access it because it never passes far enough north for us to be in the footprint. That said, it can sometimes be lonely on linear satellites on passes that cover much of the continental U.S. I can?t understand why people would
prefer to step all over one another on a single channel FM bird rather than spread out on a nice passband. Yes, the linears require a bit more effort, technical skill, and possibly a
bit more of a monetary investment. But by finding some bargains on used
gear and learning a bit more about how things work, they are well within reach of the average ham.

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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 07:06:52 -0500
From: "Mark D. Johns" <mjohns+K0JM@??????.???>
To: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
Message-ID: <CAHKCqnAerdyN9pQpNxLeq5mMt2nF1G29AeShdJub9a33Z0T=jA@????.?????.???> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

If my remarks came across as ?shaming,? I apologize. They were intended as encouragement. Yes, FM is cheap and easy, but the level of operator skill necessary to get QSOs on a crowded channel is daunting. The skills
necessary to put together a linear station are more on the technical side. That?s a challenge, but it can be fun to get there.

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 06:09 Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

What I can't understand is that people continue to shame other hams for not operating on the linears. Having only just recently obtained the
equipment necessary to work the linears (and then, only at the shack, my equipment is not portable in any way), I can say that it was not cheap nor easy to do. Working the FM birds is both far cheaper and easier, for
sure.

Those that are stuck on the FM birds are likely not doing it by choice.
It's all they have. Please keep that in mind.

--Roy
K3RLD

EO-88 is in a low inclination orbit and so stays close to the equator.

Many

of us in the northern part of the continental U.S. and Canada cannot

access

it because it never passes far enough north for us to be in the

footprint.

That said, it can sometimes be lonely on linear satellites on passes that cover much of the continental U.S. I can?t understand why people would prefer to step all over one another on a single channel FM bird rather

than

spread out on a nice passband. Yes, the linears require a bit more

effort,

technical skill, and possibly a
bit more of a monetary investment. But by finding some bargains on used gear and learning a bit more about how things work, they are well within reach of the average ham.

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Professor Emeritus of Communication Studies at
Luther College, Decorah, Iowa USA
Now residing in Minneapolis, Minn. ------------------------------------------------
"Get the facts first. You can distort them later."
---Mark Twain


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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:07:57 +0200
From: Lapo Pieri <ik5nax@???????????.??>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, "Mark D. Johns"
<mjohns+K0JM@??????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
Message-ID: <20190719120757.GA3463@??????>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

21:51 Thu 18 Jul 19 , Mark D. Johns wrote:

EO-88 is in a low inclination orbit and so stays close to the equator. Many of us in the northern part of the continental U.S. and Canada cannot access it because it never passes far enough north for us to be in the footprint.

Really EO88 has 97deg of inclination, maybe you confuse it with IO86?
However some birds are not for all locators, that's true.

That said, it can sometimes be lonely on linear satellites on passes that cover much of the continental U.S. I can?t understand why people would
prefer to step all over one another on a single channel FM bird rather than spread out on a nice passband.

I agree, absolutelly. This is the age of "quick&dirty" to be short.
More to this: how many qso can be done on a crowded FM sat and how many qso could be done on an even small, say 20kHz, BW of a linear transponder?
Maybe ssb voice is not the future, even for ham. Maybe we'll have (soon?)
a digital voice satellite on microwave band to be used with phased array antenna (!), maybe. But for now I think linear transponder allow the most valued ham communications.

Yes, the linears require a bit more effort, technical skill, and possibly a bit more of a monetary investment. But by finding some bargains on used
gear and learning a bit more about how things work, they are well within reach of the average ham.

Ham is also challanging, right?

73, Lapo IK5NAX


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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:11:06 +0200
From: Lapo Pieri <ik5nax@???????????.??>
To: Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Anyone on EO-88?
Message-ID: <20190719121106.GB3463@??????>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

07:08 Fri 19 Jul 19 , Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB wrote:

What I can't understand is that people continue to shame other hams for not operating on the linears.

It's not shame, at all!

Having only just recently obtained the
equipment necessary to work the linears (and then, only at the shack, my equipment is not portable in any way), I can say that it was not cheap nor easy to do. Working the FM birds is both far cheaper and easier, for
sure.

But they give less satisfation, imho. Please see my other reply on
this thread.

Those that are stuck on the FM birds are likely not doing it by choice.

Yes, I've tried FM birds but I'll seldom use them again

Have a good time

73, Lapo IK5NAX


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