Blue White wrote to n2qfd <=-

Neapolitan style... we had that very same thing right down to mopping
up the oil!

I did not realize that was what it was called. ;) They used to make
it on huge rectangular cooking pans, like one might make cookies on but much larger.

We just got a neopolitan-style pizza join in downtown Santa Cruz, CA.
Sounds like what we in California call "flatbread". I'm looking forward
to trying it out.



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Bringing us back to the "ketchup topic"....

Back in college, I had a roommate who was... let's say "acted like he
had had a frontal lobotomy", to be nice. I.e. he couldn't think ahead.

Every week, I would get pizza fixings - just a crust/sauce combo, cheese and toppings - make a big pizza, eat a slice or 2 then put the rest in
the fridge for later that week.

He decided that he wanted to do the same thing. So he bought a crust
mix. That's all.

After the crust is made, oiled and spread out in the pan, and the oven pre-heating, he opens the fridge and says "there's no sauce". Like the fridge was a magic box like the Room of Requirement from Harry Potter.
So he used ketchup (see what I did there?).

Then he opens the fridge back up and says "there's no pizza cheese".
Why he thought that pizza cheese would magically appear since the last time he looked, I have no idea. Now my grandma had given us some of
that gov't cheese - which tastes great on grilled cheese. So he grated some of that on to his ketchup covered pizza dough.

And third time's the charm, he opens the magic food box back up only to complain that there were no pizza toppings. No substitute here. He
puts his processed american cheese topped, ketchup covered, pizza into
the oven.

Needless to say, it did **not** turn out to be a good pizza. And he complained how his pizza didn't turn out like mine.

Was he high? :D

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- Ketchup on pizza

I have done this with leftover, not-otherwise-flavored crusts.

Yep, that's it. :) Sometimes BBQ sauce too.

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I haven't tried that, but it sounds good. Sometimes I liked to mix in canned tuna with mac & cheese.

That's good too. Ground beef is much better. Give it a try.

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- Ketchup on pizza

Candy Corn on Pizza

You win. :D

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choice of the next generation, and it will let you so many things at the same time that your head will spin, and it can dance, and ... oh never mind... it sucks...

LOL! :)

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Drop by FIDO COOKING and share the recipe sometime. ;)

I have a recipe I just pulled off line. I've used multiple recipes and found one the family likes.

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The CheeseSteak Shop in Oakland, CA had a great cheesesteak sandwich, steak fries seasoned with paprika, cokenotpepsi and those packaged TastyKake "twinkies" - which apparently are a Philly thing.

It's 11:32 am local time here and I am now officially hungry! Unfortunately, I'm on a grain free diet and had to give up the bread. It's done wonders for my diabetes but I still get those cravings! I would just have to eat the cheesesteak meat, no cokenotpepsi (I like that!) and make sure the fries weren't coated. Life's a bit?h when you get old!

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Re: controversy!
By: Newtype Len to Nightfox on Wed May 15 2024 06:47 pm

Hawaiian pizza? Pineapple on a pizza? I will meet you at a location of your choice to 1v1

Agreed. :P

Nightfox

Re: Re: your opinion of current world situation
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Wed May 15 2024 07:09 am

sure, whatever... but OS/2 is THE BEST Operating System in the world, and can run circles around anything else, and it looks nicer, and will cook your breakfast for you, and make your coffee, and has 3D-bordered icons, and is nifty, and looks cool, and is True-Blue, and can run DOS better than DOS, and will take out the garbage, and will get you chicks, and has ...
it can dance, and ... oh never mind... it sucks...

:P Yeah, I've heard people argue about the Mac, and Amiga, being years ahead of IBM PC-compatibles, but OS/2 seemed to be the thing in its day for PCs.

And as far as its looks and 3D-bordered icons and such, I think all the modern operating systems these days have a fairly flat look, and I don't like that.. The companies making the OSes in use these days seem to have all decided that a flat look is how things should be. Sometimes it's hard to tell if something is a button or just a rectangular region for display because they both look the same..

Nightfox

Re: Re: controversy!
By: Dr. What to Nightfox on Thu May 16 2024 07:18 am

I've heard that in China, people often put ketchup on pasta, thinking
that ketchup is pasta sauce (or close enough)..

My grandma used to make "spaghetti like great-grandma" which consisted of elbow macaroni, tomato soup and bacon. Not Italian, but very tasty.

That does sound good.

Government cheese? What is that?

Wow! That was a long time ago. So back in the 1980's, the gov't had "surplus" food (because of the usual gov't reasons) that they would give out to low income or other "needy" people.

I was around in the 80s (just a kid), but I don't remember that.

Nightfox

Never have put Ketchup on Onion Rings, alway have ate them as served.
Here, I put Mustard on Hot Dog(s), spouse uses ketchup on hers

Ketchup goes well with French Fried Potatoes.
Used to like Arby's Curly Fries but ate them without any toping(s), now I order the Crinkle Fries and of course place a dab of Ketchup on each portion as I eat it .

WHAT! THIS ISN'T THE COOKING ECHO??????
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Re: Re: your opinion of current w
By: ogg to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu May 16 2024 11:39 am

It's 11:32 am local time here and I am now officially hungry!
Unfortunately, I'm on a grain free diet and had to give up the bread. It's

I'm counting calories religiously - it's the first time I've tried that. I've had to manage my weight continually - lost 75 pounds on Weight Watchers back in 2000, then have tried plant only, Atkins, Keto, and WW again, with short-term success.

This works pretty well, I don't limit what I eat, just limit portion sizes. I'm tracking in the FitBit software, which also tracks steps and facotrs exercize in to calorie counts.
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I enjoy Thousand Island Salad Dressing on a Salad.
Never thought to use it on anything else.
I might have to try it on a Hamburger sandwich instead of getting the Mayonnaise Jar out of the refrigerator, I'll snub it and try TI to see if it pleases Me too.
Thanks All, Ed
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I saw a family member sprinkling Franks Tobbasco Sauce on Scrambled Eggs
I asked to try some of it too and was told that I wouldn't like it.
I kept on asking and finally got ONE drop put on my Scrambled Eggs, I ate one bite and never again wanted anymore Franks Tobbasco Sauce on any food.

Since the early 1990's when McDonald's began serving Breakfast Burritos w/ mild Picante Sauce, I have got a Jar of Mild Taco Sauce and use it on Scrambled Eggs.
I tried Mild Taco Salsa but don't like that as well as Taco Sauce, even tho I see Salsa advertised .more often in places I frequent.

Yes, I'm Opinionated as everyone else is.
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I did not realize that was what it was called. ;) They used to make it on huge rectangular cooking pans, like one might make cookies on but much larger.

Yeah,
Weekends we used to make pizza too. We've get dough mix and we had a store selling the govt' cheese which was very orange and oily.
Life in the 90's in rural NY!

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I'm counting calories religiously - it's the first time I've tried that. I've had to manage my weight continually - lost 75 pounds on Weight Watchers back in 2000, then have tried plant only, Atkins, Keto, and WW

Know Weight Watchers! They helped me lose 25 pounds. 75 pounds is great! Did you get your pins?

again, with short-term success.

This works pretty well, I don't limit what I eat, just limit portion sizes. I'm tracking in the FitBit software, which also tracks steps and facotrs exercize in to calorie counts.

Before covid, I was hiking/backpacking 40-50 miles per week in the Virginia mountains. We had to move due to wife losing her job. We ended up in
eastern Texas where there aren't any mountains nor much in the way of hiking opportunities. I put on 20 pounds the first year so started running/walking
on treadmills. Didn't help diabetes plus the boredom drove me crazy! Finally got hooked up with doctor who suggested the no grain diet. My testing
numbers have since plummeted.:) Plus I've lost over half of the weight. It's really a mind game now.

While in Virginia, I had a fitbit that I wore religiously. It got to the
point that the battery died, wouldn't charge. I miss it.

Scott

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I saw a family member sprinkling Franks Tobbasco Sauce on Scrambled Eggs I asked to try some of it too and was told that I wouldn't like it.
I kept on asking and finally got ONE drop put on my Scrambled Eggs, I
ate one bite and never again wanted anymore Franks Tobbasco Sauce on any food.

Since the early 1990's when McDonald's began serving Breakfast Burritos
w/ mild Picante Sauce, I have got a Jar of Mild Taco Sauce and use it on Scrambled Eggs.
I tried Mild Taco Salsa but don't like that as well as Taco Sauce, even tho I see Salsa advertised .more often in places I frequent.

I feel the same way about eggs. This has been part of my diet for 25 years. I eat eggs almost daily.

I prefer a cooked egg on a english muffin with some ham and cheese. Toasted.

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Re: your opinion of current w
By: Ed Vance to Tiny on Thu May 16 2024 12:42 pm

Never have put Ketchup on Onion Rings, alway have ate them as served.

I think ketchup can be good on onion rings. I also like to eat them plain. There are some places that I've eaten at that offer other condiments that are pretty good on onion rings.

Ketchup goes well with French Fried Potatoes. Used to like Arby's Curly Fries but ate them without any toping(s), now I order the Crinkle Fries and of course place a dab of Ketchup on each portion as I eat it .

I think Arby's curly fries taste good enough to be eaten without ketchup, though sometimes I like ketchup on those too. If I order from Arby's and get fries, I pretty much always order their curly fries rather than the crinkle fries.

Nightfox

Re: Re: your opinion of current w
By: poindexter FORTRAN to ogg on Thu May 16 2024 10:17 am

I've had to manage my weight continually - lost 75 pounds on Weight Watchers back in 2000, then have tried plant only, Atkins, Keto, and WW again, with short-term success.

I went to a Weight Watchers meeting years ago (2010) and I was the only guy there.. The rest were women. I felt a little out of place..

Nightfox

Re: Re: your opinion of current w
By: Ed Vance to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu May 16 2024 12:52 pm

I enjoy Thousand Island Salad Dressing on a Salad. Never thought to use it on anything else.

When I was a kid, I sometimes liked Thousand Island dressing on salad. I haven't done that in years though. I tend to prefer Thousand Island on other things now - either as a condiment for fries or as a spread on a hamburger.

Nightfox

Re: controversy!
By: niter3 to Ed Vance on Thu May 16 2024 03:09 pm

I prefer a cooked egg on a english muffin with some ham and cheese. Toasted.

There are toasters that have an egg poacher on the side that you can use to make English muffin egg sandwiches. Usually you can also heat a frozen sausage patty in the poacher if you like sausage on it.

Nightfox

I went to a Weight Watchers meeting years ago (2010) and I was the only guy there.. The rest were women. I felt a little out of place..

I don't think going is necessary at all.

There is more to this, but essentially for every 57 calories it's one point.

Their new system is just confusing. I've stuck to this plan and I've been good over the years.

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There are toasters that have an egg poacher on the side that you can use to make English muffin egg sandwiches. Usually you can also heat a
frozen sausage patty in the poacher if you like sausage on it.

Do you have a link to one?

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Madison York Microwave Omelette Maker.
Bought one of those at Ollie's for abt $5 USD.
Went back to buy more to give out but couldn't find anymore of them.

In January I searched and noticed Wal-Mart has them only online for a few bucks more than I paid for mine.

If You get one, place it on a microwave safe plate when using it because the halves will flip downward when handling it & causing the beaten eggs to spill out . (using the plate isn't mentioned on the paper included with the item)
I learned that the hard way. And Yes I did follow the printed instructions.

After preparing the eggs and separately preparing the filling(s).
Cooking the omelette takes 3 minutes in the microwave.

My wife thought I was stupid paying 5 Bucks for it.
After I cooked the first one she saw doing that was a lot easier than making an omelette in the saucepan and loves making omelettes w/ it too.

If the maker isn't on a plate /\ is the shape it unfolds to.
Thought I would include. ^. a graphic of how it. looks unfolded.

Know What I Mean?

Disclaimer: I am only a purchaser of this item, not employed by Ollie's or the Madison York Company.

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Once, we bought a box of Chef Boyarde(?sp?) Pizza Mix and all of the toppings we liked plus the Cheese.

It costed a good deal to buy all that stuff.
We prepared it and did enjoy it after we cooked it, but decided it was cheaper and easier to go to a Pizza Restaurant when we wanted to eat Pizza.
We occasionally buy a frozen Rising Crust Pizza at the Grocery Store to cook in the oven, if we aren't wanting to go out for one

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Re: your opinion of current w
By: niter3 to Nightfox on Thu May 16 2024 04:22 pm

I went to a Weight Watchers meeting years ago (2010) and I was the only
guy there.. The rest were women. I felt a little out of place..

I don't think going is necessary at all.

There is more to this, but essentially for every 57 calories it's one point.

Yeah, I figured I could probably do that on my own if I wanted to.

Nightfox

I like banana nut bread mix.
Never thought to add raisins to the mix.
I have doubts that chocolate would make it taste better.
But everyone here has their own taste.
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Re: controversy!
By: niter3 to Nightfox on Thu May 16 2024 04:25 pm

There are toasters that have an egg poacher on the side that you can use
to make English muffin egg sandwiches. Usually you can also heat a
frozen sausage patty in the poacher if you like sausage on it.

Do you have a link to one?

I currently have one of these: https://www.amazon.com/West-Bend-78500-Breakfast-Removable/dp/B07KMVKDSP

Years ago (2008), I had one of these which I bought at my local Target (and was branded as a different brand): https://www.samstores.com/product-tefal-tt550015-toast-and-egg-two-slice-toaste r-and-egg-maker-27674.html
Shortened link:
https://shorturl.at/eCMRX
However, that one might have been discontinued (hence the high price now).

Nightfox

Candy corn on pizza?
He he he he. He he

Ed W9ODR

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Re: controversy!
By: Ed Vance to niter3 on Thu May 16 2024 03:55 pm

Madison York Microwave Omelette Maker.
Bought one of those at Ollie's for abt $5 USD. Went back to buy more to give out but couldn't find anymore of them.

That would be interesting. I wonder how the omlettes come out in the microwave, and if that makes it easier to cook omlettes. I like cooking omlettes, and over the years I think I've gotten alright at cooking them in a pan, where I can flip the egg mixture in the pan without it falling apart.

Nightfox

Re: Re: controversy!
By: Ed Vance to n2qfd on Thu May 16 2024 04:06 pm

Once, we bought a box of Chef Boyarde(?sp?) Pizza Mix and all of the toppings we liked plus the Cheese.

It costed a good deal to buy all that stuff. We prepared it and did enjoy it after we cooked it, but decided it was cheaper and easier to go to a Pizza Restaurant when we wanted to eat Pizza. We occasionally buy a frozen Rising Crust Pizza at the Grocery Store to cook in the oven, if we aren't wanting to go out for one

I'd be surprised if it was cheaper to buy a pizza at a pizza restaurant compared to buying the ingredients and cooking your ownat home. For a while now, it seemed to me that pizza restaurants tend to charge a lot for their pizza, at least if you're buying a large one. For a large pizza, some pizza restaurants in my area charge about $25 to $30 or more, depending on the pizza. When I was growing up, I seem to remember it would often cost around $20 for a pizza that would feed our small family.

Some are less expensive, especially bake-at-home pizza shops (such as Papa Murphy's). And of course, the frozen ones from the supermarket are fairly inexpensive.

Nightfox

He he he he. He he
Ed W9ODR

Are you laughing in CW Ed?

Yeah, it was something from the interwebs and became a halloween night thing here. Usually do half a frozen pizza with them like a Red Baron.

Have to have fun with it.

73

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I'd be surprised if it was cheaper to buy a pizza at a pizza restaurant compared to buying the ingredients and cooking your ownat home. For a

Remember folks, this was like 1993... and it was more about the activity than the food at that point. it was a weekend thing to do, staying with a cousin who lived on a real back road, still had a party line for phone, you got the cheese at the deli part of the gas station and rented a movie on the other end of the store. There was no cable, there was no antenna even in that hollow.
Modernity and at a rapid pace but for a while it was pretty isolated.

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On Wed, 15 May 2024 11:48:00 -0700, you wrote:

In all seriousness, I love pico/nano. I started a blog on my tilde and
have been using nano to compose text files and I'd forgotten how
comfortable I'd gotten with them using PINE/ALPINE for email.

I do as well. It was by far the easiest for me to learn and the least convoluted. *shrug*

Regards,
Nick

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On Wed, 15 May 2024 12:17:00 -0700, you wrote:

In their condiment bar, they have 3 or 4 mustards with a little
artisanal description ("A german variety made with xxy mustard seeds, coarsely stone ground, with hints of vinegar and white pepper...")

I never knew Germany took mustard so seriously until I watched an episode of 'The Amazing Race' some years ago and they did a mustard tasting of like 9 different varieties on one of the legs of the race.

For Ketchup, the description was

"Smooshed-up tomatoes. It's really GOOD!"

That about sums it up!

Regards,
Nick

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On Thu, 16 May 2024 14:56:48 -0700, you wrote:

Government cheese? What is that?

Wow! That was a long time ago. So back in the 1980's, the gov't had
"surplus" food (because of the usual gov't reasons) that they
would give out to low income or other "needy" people.

I was around in the 80s (just a kid), but I don't remember that.

Guessing you didn't grow up anywhere near a ghetto, then. :)

Regards,
Nick

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On Thu, 16 May 2024 18:45:54 -0500, you wrote:

I saw a family member sprinkling Franks Tobbasco Sauce on Scrambled Eggs
I asked to try some of it too and was told that I wouldn't like it.
I kept on asking and finally got ONE drop put on my Scrambled Eggs, I
ate one bite and never again wanted anymore Franks Tobbasco Sauce on any food.

Franks Red Hot? It's great on chicken wings, but I'd have to agree with you there. I wouldn't put it on eggs. Mild Salsa works wonders on eggs, though.

I tried Mild Taco Salsa but don't like that as well as Taco Sauce, even tho I see Salsa advertised .more often in places I frequent.

Is it the chunks in the salsa that sways you more towards taco sauce?

Yes, I'm Opinionated as everyone else is.

As you should be!

Regards,
Nick

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On Thu, 16 May 2024 17:48:52 -0700, you wrote:

I went to a Weight Watchers meeting years ago (2010) and I was the only
guy there.. The rest were women. I felt a little out of place..

Should have turned on the charm and tried to see how many numbers you could get. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Blue,

On Thu, May 16 2024 12:37:24 -0500, you wrote:

Tin! That is the name of the news reader that I couldn't remember. I don't remember using ytalk, but I do remember using finger to figure out if someone was on, and then using talk (which could have been ytalk) to chat for a bit.

Psst. Take a look at the tearline. :)

Regards,
Nick

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Hawaiian pizza? Pineapple on a pizza? I will meet you at a location of your choice to 1v1

1v1 split a Hawaiian pizza? I'm in! Lemme grab a four-pack of IBC Cream Soda!

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Re: your opinion of current w
By: Accession to Nightfox on Thu May 16 2024 06:22 pm

I went to a Weight Watchers meeting years ago (2010) and I was the only
guy there.. The rest were women. I felt a little out of place..

Should have turned on the charm and tried to see how many numbers you could get. ;)

I was already taken at the time. :)

Nightfox

On 16 May 2024, Blue White said the following...

Ground beef with mac and cheese used to be a popular dish here in my area of the states. Maybe I only think it was "popular" because it was a dish often served by the school lunch cafeteria during the late 1970s/early 1980s. ;)

I have also been known to mix tuna in with it.

we always just did the hamburger (or tuna) helper from the little box. i had that again recently and it was actually pretty decent for what it is. another from that sort of meal in a box category, zatarain's jambalaya, is pretty decent too for something with no effort.

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On 16 May 2024, Blue White said the following...

Tin! That is the name of the news reader that I couldn't remember. I don't remember using ytalk, but I do remember using finger to figure out if someone was on, and then using talk (which could have been ytalk) to chat for a bit.

it's kind of weird, there was a whole sort of parallel bbs community on the "freenets" back then. with the added benefit of being able to actually use
the shell account to do "work" if you were into that sort of thing.

of course if you were in university you'd probably have access to their servers instead (and in fact some of the docs for pine on the internet still include help for accessing email at specific schools)

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On 16 May 2024, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

I'll add to that - running Windows 3.11 and using tools that created a
SLIP connection over a dial-up shell account, because a true PPP
account was too expensive. I think I used slIRP, capitalized something
like that.

my first actual internet access at home was via a local bbs that had a ppp door. worked pretty decent technically but was slow as could be.

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On Thu, 16 May 2024 21:50:30 -0700, you wrote:

Should have turned on the charm and tried to see how many numbers you
could get.

I was already taken at the time. :)

Welp, any fun there just went right out the window. :)

Regards,
Nick

... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
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this takes me back to the same days using Pine for email and Tin for Usenet etc... I recall using ytalk (I think) to chat with someone in the USA at a St Louis university using the Internet... this was circa 1994/1995 I think.

ytalk... we had the Apple User club BBS back then, weirdly running on a 486 with an early Slak install. We had a 4 way ytalk chat with the admin guys that really new what they were doing. While the GF of the time and myself, still had training wheels on, we just happened to be hosting the hardware.
Probably a few years earlier though, 92/93 maybe.

Back then there was no way to host a multiline dialup system on a Mac. AU/X didn't support PPP. Apple was dropping, and there was no software for MacOS
of the age either.

Spec


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Madison York Microwave Omelette Maker.
Bought one of those at Ollie's for abt $5 USD.
Went back to buy more to give out but couldn't find anymore of them.

In January I searched and noticed Wal-Mart has them only online for a
few bucks more than I paid for mine.

If You get one, place it on a microwave safe plate when using it
because the halves will flip downward when handling it & causing the beaten eggs to spill out . (using the plate isn't mentioned on the
paper included with the item) I learned that the hard way. And Yes I
did follow the printed instructions.

Nice... This looks interesting... However to do an omelette, you would still need to cut up all the vegetables and anything else you toss in it.

The cooking part on the pan I don't mind, it's the prep work for it.

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I currently have one of these: https://www.amazon.com/West-Bend-78500-Breakfast-Removable/dp/B07KMVKDSP

Wow! I've never seen these before. Very interesting...

I usually just toss an egg in the microwave, toast my english muffins and melt cheese and ham on top of the cooked egg afterwards.

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That would be interesting. I wonder how the omlettes come out in the microwave, and if that makes it easier to cook omlettes. I like cooking omlettes, and over the years I think I've gotten alright at cooking them in a pan, where I can flip the egg mixture in the pan without it falling apart.

One thing I cannot stand about omelettes is when you overcook it slightly. That taste grosses me out.

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I'd be surprised if it was cheaper to buy a pizza at a pizza restaurant compared to buying the ingredients and cooking your ownat home. For a while now, it seemed to me that pizza restaurants tend to charge a lot
for their pizza, at least if you're buying a large one. For a large pizza, some pizza restaurants in my area charge about $25 to $30 or
more, depending on the pizza. When I was growing up, I seem to remember
it would often cost around $20 for a pizza that would feed our small family.

Some are less expensive, especially bake-at-home pizza shops (such as
Papa Murphy's). And of course, the frozen ones from the supermarket are fairly inexpensive.

I heard you can buy Costco pizza and bring it home and cook it?

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On 16 May 2024 at 07:37a, Blue White pondered and said...

Tin! That is the name of the news reader that I couldn't remember. I don't remember using ytalk, but I do remember using finger to figure out if someone was on, and then using talk (which could have been ytalk) to chat for a bit.

I was talking to my wife last night about this and mentioned Finger also... it's hard not to giggle when you say that...sorry... but hey yeah good times..

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On 17 May 2024 at 02:56a, tenser pondered and said...

There were several different clients; one came with BSD (and
most Unixes). `ytalk` was different; it also supported
"multiway" chat between more than two parties.

Almost none of this is used anymore. Kind of sad, in a way.

I'm glad my memory is good enough to recall it.

Say (speaking of not in use now) do you follow the Serial Port YouTube channel and their efforts to resurrect old software. Archie just came back from the brink :)

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On 16 May 2024 at 06:29a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

I'll add to that - running Windows 3.11 and using tools that created a
SLIP connection over a dial-up shell account, because a true PPP
account was too expensive. I think I used slIRP, capitalized something
like that.

I have a couple of words that spring to mind.... Trumpet Winsock :)

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On 17 May 2024 at 11:24a, Spectre pondered and said...

ytalk... we had the Apple User club BBS back then, weirdly running on a 486 with an early Slak install. We had a 4 way ytalk chat with the admin guys that really new what they were doing. While the GF of the time and myself, still had training wheels on, we just happened to be hosting the hardware. Probably a few years earlier though, 92/93 maybe.
Back then there was no way to host a multiline dialup system on a Mac. AU/X didn't support PPP. Apple was dropping, and there was no software for MacOS of the age either.

Nice to know there were all sorts of usage/uses of ytalk going on at the time.

I'm starting to wonder if we can (in some way) bring it back?

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Nano. For those who don't want have to learn an editor in order to be

While nano is acceptable, probably for purely hysterical reasons (sic)
I'd far prefer to stick with Joe.

Either are better than Emacs or Vim. After writing my thesis in Latex using Emacs & dealing with vim for programming in Fortran 90 (I did switch to Emacs and it was slightly better) - I never want to to see either again (or my thesis for that matter).

The magic spells one needs to incant in Emacs to do basic stuff like run a spell check just blew my mind.. Whereas Vim manages to go in the complete opposite direction - i.e. concise and yet obtuse to the point of being equally arcane & difficult to use.

... Full throttle, dry tank.

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I'm also in the "pineapple is delicious on pizza" camp. I also like a grilled pineapple ring & back bacon on a burger now & then.

Mmmmmmm... back bacon.
The rest sounds hideous. :D

Yes bring back bacon. Also pineable on pizza... despite what most of my country thinks... just no!

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Re: Re: Pine, TIN etc.
By: Avon to tenser on Fri May 17 2024 02:37 pm

Howdy,

Say (speaking of not in use now) do you follow the Serial Port YouTube channel and their efforts to resurrect old software. Archie just came back from the brink :)

I was curious about this as I dont think I ever heard of archie ... (Well I dont remember anyway...)


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niter3 wrote to Dr. What <=-

Needless to say, it did **not** turn out to be a good pizza. And he complained how his pizza didn't turn out like mine.

Was he high? :D

I don't think so. At least I never saw him do any drugs. But he always did have a screw loose somewhere.

Now, my other roommate liked to "study" with a bottle of Jim Beam on his desk.


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Dit DAHHHHHH Dit!

The above is an exaggerated Letter R meaning Roger or Yes for those here who don't regularly listen to the noise on the lower Amateur Radio Frequencies where CW aka Morse Code is heard.

Re: Frozen Pizza - DeGerno(?sp?) is the brand preferred here, Risen Crust, of course.

Note: Ain't been on the air since wife told me to remove those UGLY BLACK WIRES coming out of one doorway up to the attic staircase.

Did I cause Your eyebrows to raise when You read my reply to the Jelly. Bean topping for Pizza post? I MEANT TO DO THAT.!

Your using a Call Sign to identify Yourself caused Me to write that.

B4 I got the Novice License the Hams who knew me in High School already were calling Me "Lid Ed".

But I have tried to be a Good LID. Just ask my wife, She will tell You how 'trying' I am.
73 (Best Regards) Ed . .
P.S. I hate it when this Android phone wants to put a period where I don't want one and I have to take time to EDit out that extra symbol B4 this post can go on it's way.
.... - - - - - - - -

HMMMM
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Almost none of this is used anymore. Kind of sad, in a way.

Indeed. I think they may have been eclipsed by the various chat clients
like AIM, etc. The people I used to talk to over talk migrated to those,
so we stopped using talk.

I think it might be sort of neat to have something like talk so that
users on one bbs could chat with users on another, but I guess that is
what the irc is for. :)



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My local market has a butcher shop, and they sell pre-made meatloaf
for
the same price as the ground round. I haven't made my own since
discovering theirs!

There used to be a small local market here that had a lunch counter. You
could get a very decent meal for next to nothing. One of my favorites
was their meat loaf with two sides. You got a piece of meatloaf the size
of a brick. I was able to make two meals out of those lunches!

Was real sorry to see them go, but I think retirement age + the pandemic
did them in.



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I did not realize that was what it was called. ;) They used to

make

it on huge rectangular cooking pans, like one might make cookies

on but

much larger.

We just got a neopolitan-style pizza join in downtown Santa Cruz, CA.
Sounds like what we in California call "flatbread". I'm looking
forward to trying it out.

Let us know how good it is. The school pizza was not really like
flatbread in that the crust underneath was not thick at all.




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- Ketchup on pizza

I have done this with leftover, not-otherwise-flavored crusts.

Yep, that's it. :) Sometimes BBQ sauce too.

Or ranch dressing. :)

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Since the early 1990's when McDonald's began serving Breakfast
Burritos w/ mild
Picante Sauce, I have got a Jar of Mild Taco Sauce and use it on
Scrambled Eggs.

Many moons ago, when I was in college and a friend of mine was back on
leave, he scrambled some eggs along with some of what I think was
spaghetti sauce... meat, onions, peppers in a tomato sauce. I didn't
think it was going to be good at all but it was.

A little later, we were outdoors and I realized there were some buzzards circling overhead. He said they were circling because they knew we "ate
them eggs."

I still get a small chuckle out of that.


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staying with a cousin who lived on a real back road, still had a party
line for phone, you got the cheese at the deli part of the gas station
and rented a movie on the other end of the store. There was no cable,
there was no antenna even in that hollow.
Modernity and at a rapid pace but for a while it was pretty isolated.

Sounds like Eastern Kentucky. ;)



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Government cheese? What is that?

I was around in the 80s (just a kid), but I don't remember that.

Guessing you didn't grow up anywhere near a ghetto, then. :)

Or near a small town in Appalachia, either.



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On 17 May 2024, Blue White said the following...

I think it might be sort of neat to have something like talk so that
users on one bbs could chat with users on another, but I guess that is what the irc is for. :)

should check out wiki.synchro.net/module:sbbsimsg

it uses some oldschool unix stuff to fetch active users and send messages

for example, "telnet vert.synchro.net 11" (that is, port 11) will dump the currently active users, and a program made to use MSP could send messages to them..

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Tin! That is the name of the news reader that I couldn't

remember. I

Psst. Take a look at the tearline. :)

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Nice!

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don't remember using ytalk, but I do remember using finger to

figure out

if someone was on, and then using talk (which could have been

ytalk) to

chat for a bit.

I was talking to my wife last night about this and mentioned Finger
also... it's hard not to giggle when you say that...sorry... but hey
yeah good times..

The person I used to talk to was female so we got a whole lot of giggles
out of that, too. :D



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On 17 May 2024, Blue White said the following...

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Just FYI, if this is your BBS, you are still flying the /999 node number.

says _199_

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Yes bring back bacon. Also pineable on pizza... despite what most of
my country thinks... just no!

Agreed although, to be fair, I really don't like pineapple on much of
anything. Back in the 1970s, or maybe early 80s, there were some orange
juices that included pineapple or grapefruit juice in them because,
presumably, those were cheaper at that time. I used to drink OJ all the
time but not when it had one of those in it. I didn't like those fruits
that much to begin with, and the thought of that adultered, sour orange
juice put me off of either for good.

The one time I don't mind pineapple flavoring is when a ham has been
baked with pineapple. I won't eat the pineapple, but the juices don't
taste bad on a ham. ;)



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Just FYI, if this is your BBS, you are still flying the /999 node

number.

says _199_

LOL, I saw that origin line multiple times and didn't catch that until
you pointed it out! Guess it is time for an eye exam again. :D



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In the 1960's I remember there were restaurants called "YOGI'S" in Alameda. Several varieties of toppings were already on their hamburgers and all of them were lined up in order for customers to select.

Does that Chain still exist in Your area?

Ed
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Wonderful that You can flip an omelette perfectly!

This microwave thingy is first cooked with the halfs opened flat.
Next Cheese and other fillings are placed on to each half and cooked.
Then snap the maker's half together (there isn't any Click noise, just flipping one side over the other).
After the third time cooking is done, you have a half round omelette ready to go on the dish.
3 minutes of cooking time, Total.
Ed
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Some friends recently told us about a Pizza Buffet that a nearby place had from 10AM to 2PM for $10 USD/per person.
UMMMMMM GOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!
Ed
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CHUNKS? YEP! That was the 'added ingredient's I didn't care for.
Ed
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You're Correct!

The Prep work does require time but the finished products results is well worth it
We only add Sharp Cheddar Cheese to the ones we make.
A Pinch of Cheese from the bag on to each half, cook a bit, close the halfs together, cook and ENJOY.
Ed
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"I" can identify with that Loose Screw phrase.
Ed
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Re: controversy!
By: niter3 to Nightfox on Thu May 16 2024 09:55 pm

Some are less expensive, especially bake-at-home pizza shops (such as
Papa Murphy's). And of course, the frozen ones from the supermarket are
fairly inexpensive.

I heard you can buy Costco pizza and bring it home and cook it?

Yep, that's true.. Sounds like you haven't tried it?

Nightfox

ogg wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Know Weight Watchers! They helped me lose 25 pounds. 75 pounds is
great! Did you get your pins?

I have the 75 pound one somewhere around here...

While in Virginia, I had a fitbit that I wore religiously. It got to
the point that the battery died, wouldn't charge. I miss it.

I have an old Fitbit, the Flex 2. It's one that only has LEDs, no
display. It's inconspicuous, which I like - it doesn't demand your
attention, it'll only vibrate occasionally - when you get a call, a
text message, or to remind you to get up and move around.

When it dies, I don't know what I'll do - probably pay way too much for
a replacement instead of a full-blown smart watch or fitness band with
a display.



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Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I went to a Weight Watchers meeting years ago (2010) and I was the only guy there.. The rest were women. I felt a little out of place..

If you like curvy women, you're in a dating paradise - ask one of your
fellow members out for a salad or a walk on the beach... :)



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n2qfd wrote to Blue White <=-

Weekends we used to make pizza too. We've get dough mix and we had a
store selling the govt' cheese which was very orange and oily.
Life in the 90's in rural NY!

Boboli was big in the 90s, if memory serves - store-bought premade pizza crusts. Now, backyard pizza ovens are all the rage, and our local stores
sell pizza dough. Pillsbury sells a passable dough in a canister, along
with the crescent rolls, pie crusts, biscuits and cinnamon rolls.



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niter3 wrote to Ed Vance <=-

I feel the same way about eggs. This has been part of my diet for 25 years. I eat eggs almost daily.

I love watching history cooking videos on YouTube; one series was a man
who ate on a UK rationed WW II diet. Part of the ration for the week was
2 pounds (!) of powdered eggs, about the size of a gallon ZipLoc bag. No
wonder omelettes are such a thing around there... :)



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Nightfox wrote to niter3 <=-

There are toasters that have an egg poacher on the side that you can
use to make English muffin egg sandwiches. Usually you can also heat a frozen sausage patty in the poacher if you like sausage on it.

I was always enamored with those "retro" kitchen appliances - they're a
small toaster oven with a griddle above the toaster and a coffee maker
slapped on the side. Perfect for a dorm room if you're not a huge coffee drinker.

My son is in his third year of college, and for this generation it's all
about the microwave. I had a 10 cup coffee maker and a toaster oven when
I was in school, and although some foods took longer, being able to make
a quick piece of toast or grilled cheese made it worth it.

Oh, and one of those old cheap tin pots with the immersion heater in it
- great for tea, soups and ramen.



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niter3 wrote to Nightfox <=-

There is more to this, but essentially for every 57 calories it's one point.

Their new system is just confusing. I've stuck to this plan and I've
been good over the years.

I still have the old docs from the 2000s, back when it was
fat/fiber/protein that determined points. It was a lot simpler than the
3 or 4 plans they have now. The "eat as many zero point foods as you'd
like until you feel full" didn't really work as well for me.

Now, apparently, they're prescribing weight loss drugs as well.



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niter3 wrote to Nightfox <=-

There are toasters that have an egg poacher on the side that you can use to make English muffin egg sandwiches. Usually you can also heat a
frozen sausage patty in the poacher if you like sausage on it.

Do you have a link to one?

If you do a web search for "Breakfast Station" you'll see what I was
talking about.

Aside: Another piece of kitsch I would love is a Teasmade. It's an old
bakelite looking nightstand alarm clock with a built in kettle and
light. Put it on your nightstand, the alarm goes off, the light goes on
and it starts brewing a pot of tea. I wondered about the milk/sugar,
apparently people buy those little UHP cream pots that don't need
refrigeration and put them in the drawer.



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Nightfox wrote to Ed Vance <=-

cooking them in a pan, where I can flip the egg mixture in the pan
without it falling apart.

Then, it becomes a scramblette.



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Accession wrote to Nightfox <=-

Should have turned on the charm and tried to see how many numbers you could get. ;)

Telephone numbers, or weights?

<I'm outta here!>



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fusion wrote to Blue White <=-

of course if you were in university you'd probably have access to their servers instead (and in fact some of the docs for pine on the internet still include help for accessing email at specific schools)

In the east bay (San Francisco) in the early 90s, you were cool if you
had a "soda" email address. soda.berkeley.edu was an eecs
building/school at UC Berkeley, and they apparently never deleted
accounts, even after graduation. This was back before people could go
out and get a free account somewhere.



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kirkspragg wrote to Spectre <=-

The magic spells one needs to incant in Emacs to do basic stuff like
run a spell check just blew my mind.. Whereas Vim manages to go in the complete opposite direction - i.e. concise and yet obtuse to the point
of being equally arcane & difficult to use.

Designed for a low-resource computer without a mouse. Bill Joy said if
he were writing an editor that others would use, it wouldn't have been
vi - that was his personal editor.



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When it dies, I don't know what I'll do - probably pay way too much for
a replacement instead of a full-blown smart watch or fitness band with
a display.

I decided to try my iPhone. I didn't trust the numbers for steps I was getting. I just started tracking mileage and time. That was more consistent than steps on the phone.

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Let us know how good it is. The school pizza was not really like flatbread in that the crust underneath was not thick at all.

Throw this one off a bit. :) How about the high school chocolate chip baked cookies. :)

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Just FYI, if this is your BBS, you are still flying the /999 node num

says _199_

Oh shit, did I miss something? Do I need to make a change on my end?

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You're Correct!

The Prep work does require time but the finished products results is
well worth it
We only add Sharp Cheddar Cheese to the ones we make.
A Pinch of Cheese from the bag on to each half, cook a bit, close the halfs together, cook and ENJOY.

In that case, it would be much faster using this over a pan.

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I heard you can buy Costco pizza and bring it home and cook it?

Yep, that's true.. Sounds like you haven't tried it?

No, there is another big chain here in Canada called "Zehrs" which you can buy pizzas they make to cook.

Very good pizzas.

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I feel the same way about eggs. This has been part of my diet for 25 years. I eat eggs almost daily.

I love watching history cooking videos on YouTube; one series was a man who ate on a UK rationed WW II diet. Part of the ration for the week was
2 pounds (!) of powdered eggs, about the size of a gallon ZipLoc bag. No wonder omelettes are such a thing around there... :)

Good point! These sound gross however. :D

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I still have the old docs from the 2000s, back when it was fat/fiber/protein that determined points. It was a lot simpler than the
3 or 4 plans they have now. The "eat as many zero point foods as you'd like until you feel full" didn't really work as well for me.

Now, apparently, they're prescribing weight loss drugs as well.

One thing that has always worked is counting calories and eating quality food. Essentially that's what I do with point counting.

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I went to a Weight Watchers meeting years ago (2010) and I was

the only

guy there.. The rest were women. I felt a little out of place..

If you like curvy women, you're in a dating paradise - ask one of your fellow members out for a salad or a walk on the beach... :)

Hmmmm, weight watchers, eh? :D



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Let us know how good it is. The school pizza was not really like flatbread in that the crust underneath was not thick at all.

Throw this one off a bit. :) How about the high school chocolate chip
baked cookies. :)

I don't remember them making us any cookies at lunch. The probably did
and I have forgotten them. I do remember making giant chocolate chip
cookes on round pizza pans in home-ec in jr high, though!



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Just FYI, if this is your BBS, you are still flying the /999

node num

says _199_

Oh shit, did I miss something? Do I need to make a change on my end?

No I read it wrong! :D



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Re: Re: controversy!
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri May 17 2024 06:58 am

My son is in his third year of college, and for this generation it's all about the microwave. I had a 10 cup coffee maker and a toaster oven when I was in school, and although some foods took longer, being able to make a quick piece of toast or grilled cheese made it worth it.

Oh, and one of those old cheap tin pots with the immersion heater in it - great for tea, soups and ramen.

I lived with my mom when I was in college, but if I had lived in a dorm or something, something like that would definitely be convenient.

Nightfox

Re: controversy!
By: niter3 to Nightfox on Fri May 17 2024 02:06 pm

I heard you can buy Costco pizza and bring it home and cook it?

Yep, that's true.. Sounds like you haven't tried it?

No, there is another big chain here in Canada called "Zehrs" which you can buy pizzas they make to cook.

Very good pizzas.

I like a good pizza, and I tend to like pretty much anything from Costco. One thing about their pizzas is that they're almost too big for some home ovens. I remember buying one years ago and it was so big that it touched the glass window on the oven door when it was in the oven, and it had to be squished in just slightly.

Nightfox

On Fri, 17 May 2024 13:44:02 -0500, you wrote:

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Just FYI, if this is your BBS, you are still flying the /999 node number.

Look at it again, my dude. Your eyes are deceiving you. :)

Regards,
Nick

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On Fri, 17 May 2024 14:02:12 -0500, you wrote:

Guessing you didn't grow up anywhere near a ghetto, then. :)

Or near a small town in Appalachia, either.

Or in a van, down by the river?

Regards,
Nick

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On Fri, 17 May 2024 14:03:26 -0500, you wrote:

--- tin/2.6.3-20231224 ("Banff") (Linux/6.8.9-arch1-1 (x86_64))

Nice!

I keep a copy of that, as well as slrn installed in the console for testing purposes. :)

Regards,
Nick

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On Fri, 17 May 2024 14:59:54 -0500, you wrote:

CHUNKS? YEP! That was the 'added ingredient's I didn't care for.
Ed

There was 54 new messages so far today, and 70 or more yesterday. I don't remember what you're replying to. Would you be so kind as to quote the text you're replying to, please?

Regards,
Nick

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On Fri, 17 May 2024 12:08:00 -0700, you wrote:

Should have turned on the charm and tried to see how many numbers you
could get. ;)

Telephone numbers, or weights?

Are there any weights at a weight watchers meeting? I figured they just talked you into buying their diet food that tastes, or at least used to taste like rubber and cardboard (my mom tried that crap when I was a kid, so the food is probably a lot better decades later).

<I'm outta here!>

Don't let the door hit you on the way out! Good day, sir.

I SAID GOOD DAY! :D

Regards,
Nick

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On 17 May 2024 at 10:04a, fusion pondered and said...

On 17 May 2024, Blue White said the following...

I think it might be sort of neat to have something like talk so that users on one bbs could chat with users on another, but I guess that i what the irc is for. :)

should check out wiki.synchro.net/module:sbbsimsg

it uses some oldschool unix stuff to fetch active users and send messages

for example, "telnet vert.synchro.net 11" (that is, port 11) will dump
the currently active users, and a program made to use MSP could send messages to them..

Ah....The Internet Message Send Protocol.

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On 17 May 2024 at 02:37p, Avon pondered and said...

I'm glad my memory is good enough to recall it.

Say (speaking of not in use now) do you follow the Serial Port YouTube channel and their efforts to resurrect old software. Archie just came
back from the brink :)

Yes! I heard about that; I'm surprised the source code
was that hard to find, actually.

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On 17 May 2024 at 02:46p, Avon pondered and said...

I'm starting to wonder if we can (in some way) bring it back?

It's still there! One can install it on most Unix-y systems,
Linux distributions, etc.

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tenser wrote to Avon <=-

On 17 May 2024 at 02:46p, Avon pondered and said...

I'm starting to wonder if we can (in some way) bring it back?

It's still there! One can install it on most Unix-y systems,
Linux distributions, etc.

It's installed by default on my Slackware Linux systems. Haven't used it,
and don't know how to, but it is present and functional.

danc@palantir:~$ ytalk
Usage: ytalk [options] user[@host][#tty]...
Options: -i -- no auto-invite port
-Y -- require caps on all y/n answers
-E -- require <esc> before y/n answers
-s -- start a shell
-q -- prompt before quitting
-v -- print program version
-h host_or_ip -- select interface or virtual host danc@palantir:~$

;-)



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Agreed although, to be fair, I really don't like pineapple on much of anything. Back in the 1970s, or maybe early 80s, there were some orange juices that included pineapple or grapefruit juice in them because, presumably, those were cheaper at that time. I used to drink OJ all the time but not when it had one of those in it. I didn't like those fruits

Over here in NZ they used to sell fruit "flavored" drinks with an apple
base. Mostly they all tasted like cheap apple juice with a hint of whatever fruit it was advertised as tasting like.

Much like yourself, I avoided them. I find apple juice just too
overpoweringly sweet - its ok mixed with other stuff (and a lot of water)
but by itself and some rather fake tasting fruit flavour, no thanks.

Also not a fan of pineapple in any of it's forms.

The one time I don't mind pineapple flavoring is when a ham has been
baked with pineapple. I won't eat the pineapple, but the juices don't taste bad on a ham. ;)

My only exception to the pineapple rule is pineapple lumps... they don't really taste like pineapple after all. Pineapple baked on ham is OK I guess, not a great fan personally, each to their own.

... Type /G to access the SysOp menu!

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Designed for a low-resource computer without a mouse. Bill Joy said if
he were writing an editor that others would use, it wouldn't have been
vi - that was his personal editor.

And yet Vim is pretty much well everywhere Linux & U
nix is! Though I don't like using it, it really is amazing how widespread it has become.

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Re: controversy!
By: kirkspragg to Blue White on Fri May 17 2024 03:58 pm

My only exception to the pineapple rule is pineapple lumps... they don't really taste like pineapple after all.

What is a pineapple lump? o.O

Nightfox

On 18 May 2024 at 10:50a, tenser pondered and said...

Yes! I heard about that; I'm surprised the source code
was that hard to find, actually.

I'm just glad they found a copy, and to be honest I hope if others want to spin up their own instance of an Archie server then they are able to obtain a copy to do that also.

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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On 18 May 2024 at 10:51a, tenser pondered and said...

On 17 May 2024 at 02:46p, Avon pondered and said...

I'm starting to wonder if we can (in some way) bring it back?

It's still there! One can install it on most Unix-y systems,
Linux distributions, etc.

Cool, OK then... [starts to hatch a plan]

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Re: your opinion of current w
By: Accession to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri May 17 2024 05:30 pm

Should have turned on the charm and tried to see how many numbers you
could get. ;)

Telephone numbers, or weights?

Are there any weights at a weight watchers meeting? I figured they just

I meant the ladies' weights. Not free weights.

swingandamissss....

I'll let myself out.
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I'm starting to wonder if we can (in some way) bring it back?

Shrug, I don't recall it requiring any kind of server, it was just point to point, only ever saw console implementations of it too... might not be very prctical.

Spec


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The one time I don't mind pineapple flavoring is when a ham has been
baked with pineapple. I won't eat the pineapple, but the juices don't taste bad on a ham. ;)

On its way to our semi-regular christmas ham. Scored with cloves punched
into it. Pineapple and glace cherries pinned to the top, and heated for an
hour and a half or so. So long as the pineapple has had a chance to
caramalise and not got burnt to a crisp, it goes well with the ham in question... a bit of flavour goes both ways..

Spec


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"I" can identify with that Loose Screw phrase.

Sandwich short of a picnic?

Stubby short of slab?

A roo loose in the top paddock?

Spec


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Over here in NZ they used to sell fruit "flavored" drinks with an apple base. Mostly they all tasted like cheap apple juice with a hint of whatever fruit it was advertised as tasting like.

Much like yourself, I avoided them. I find apple juice just too overpoweringly sweet - its ok mixed with other stuff (and a lot of water) but by itself and some rather fake tasting fruit flavour, no thanks.

If'n you've got the facility to juice your own, the real stuff tends to be
more tart than the supermket varietals. You can just do something like
Grannys or a blend of Grannys and something else if grannys are to much on their own.

One year, we had Apples coming out of our Wazoo.. bought a 2.5acre block that was covered in Apple trees. Was also a good year for blackberries. After
that we put steers in there to keep the grass down, and they ate the trees
too. But there were red and gold delicious as well as Grannys in there.

Spent the next few years poisoning the blackberries, horribly persistant
things they are. Those and the Scotch Thistles...

Spec


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What is a pineapple lump? o.O

A pineaapple lump is to pineapples what a chocolate coated banana is to bananas...

Just for a bit of context...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np-gqrLTfQA

Spec


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I don't remember them making us any cookies at lunch. The probably did and I have forgotten them. I do remember making giant chocolate chip cookes on round pizza pans in home-ec in jr high, though!

!! ;)

My go to with me and my buddies in my teens was a fries tossed into a deep fryer, then melted a as much cheese as we could on top of it..

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Just FYI, if this is your BBS, you are still flying the /999

node num

says _199_

Oh shit, did I miss something? Do I need to make a change on my end?

No I read it wrong! :D

Got'cha, I didn't think I was the few that needed to update.

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I like a good pizza, and I tend to like pretty much anything from
Costco. One thing about their pizzas is that they're almost too big for some home ovens. I remember buying one years ago and it was so big that it touched the glass window on the oven door when it was in the oven,
and it had to be squished in just slightly.

I'm going to have to grab one. We use to have a Costco card... To apparently save money, but we ended up always spending more money when we had it. So I let it lapse and haven't been there in years.

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Or near a small town in Appalachia, either.

Or in a van, down by the river?

Matt Foley. :>

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Blue White wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Let us know how good it is. The school pizza was not really like flatbread in that the crust underneath was not thick at all.

When I was in elementary school, Wednesday was pizza day in the cafeteria and that pizza was GOOD. It wasn't a regular pizza, though. It was baked on a large sheet, covered in what looked like sloppy joe with big slices of mozzarella cheese on it.

My dad, who was a teacher in that district, told me why the pizza was so good. Tuesday was chili day and the chili was also really good. What I thought was sloppy joe on the pizza was really the left over chili.


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On Sat, 18 May 2024 03:53:18 -0700, you wrote:

Telephone numbers, or weights?

Are there any weights at a weight watchers meeting? I figured they just

I meant the ladies' weights. Not free weights.

swingandamissss....

I'll let myself out.

Eyyyyoooooo! :)

Regards,
Nick

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My dad, who was a teacher in that district, told me why the pizza was
so good.
Tuesday was chili day and the chili was also really good. What I
thought was
sloppy joe on the pizza was really the left over chili.

That could be what happened here, too, and yes the chili was also good!

There were many things I found ineddible but the pizza, chili, grilled
cheeses, and (once I realized I liked them) tacos were not them. I also
liked the pork patties... not the ones in mystery sauce but the ones with
a breading that had some spices in it. They used to serve those with a
roll and I'd make a sandwich out of them.

The most ineddible things were the stewed tomatoes and the creamed corn.



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Glad that things here in NZ are not quite so scary, but things can
change fast unfortunately.

dang!

Genuinely interested to hear what your take on communism is? I'm pretty left leaning, believe that society and our governments have a duty to ensure that everyone has a fair deal, has their basic needs met when
they are struggling and has the same opportunities to get on in life regardless of who or what they are. I would not go so far as to describe myself as communist though.

I am a Marxist-Leninist... aka communist/bolshevik/(derogaatory by ultra leftists and liberals) tankie
I am a super strong avocate for 20th century Socialism
which is worker's state, centrally planned economy, means of production seized by workers, and no markets

i am in a Party. the party of the US working class https://partyofcommunistsusa.net or
https://partyofcommunistsusa.org
this is the same site just different domains

basically right to housing/job & vacation/education/health care/etc.
food is something you gotta contribute for so nobody live off of other in explotative ways

there will be accommodations for those who are disabled (like me) and there will be jobs that suit them and not to taxing

under capitalism there is severe exploitation
under socialism exploitation is non existant
exploitation is where someone who dose not contribute to society live off the labor of others. aka the capitalist. they live off the labor because they own the factories etc. aka the means of production

Interested in hearing you views about what it

means for you.
thats basically it

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Could you please shift political / religious discussions to an othern thanks.

Apologies, i will be more mindful of this in future.

sorry ill be mindful too

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It's not necessarily controversial, it's politics that's banned. It
never ends well, results in rehashed arguments that neither side is
going to be swayed by and either riles people up or is just tiresome.

There are plenty of other outlets for peoples political ideologies and this net focus more on what brings people together rather than drives
them apart.

understood ill stop i just saw this message.

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to be fair, here are a few things that are controvertial:

amiga was better than the pc and should have won out. the c64 was junk
but people could afford them.

bruh xD

joe is a better text editor than vi and should still come with linux

whats that

synchronet is better than mystic

yeah..

lord is a mediocre door game
ketchup belongs on hot dogs

etc.

xD

don't really need politics nor religion to argue about something.

i for one don't care for the "chicago dog" .. chili cheese onion and jalapeno is where it's at ;)

xD

--mary4 (Victoria Crenshaw) the 286 enthusiast

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Anyone who uses joe drinks toilet water. Putting your .vimrc in git is
the way...

lol! XD

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It seems the better technologies don't always win out. For PC operating systems, I thought OS/2 was better than Windows, but Windows ended up becoming the de facto standard.

i really like OS/2! <3

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Re: Re: your opinion of current world situation
By: Nightfox to Arelor on Mon May 13 2024 10:59 am

Is discussing opinions on communism considered controversial?

Do you want to try and see what happens? I am fine with a good old BBS bloodbath but the administration won't be.
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Re: Re: your opinion of current world situation
By: Adept to Avon on Tue May 14 2024 10:15 pm

But I want to know _people_, not political opinions. And I want to _like_ most everyone here.

I don't think you get to know a person without knowing what his opinions are. --
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Re: Re: Pine, TIN etc.
By: Gamgee to tenser on Fri May 17 2024 06:26 pm

It's installed by default on my Slackware Linux systems. Haven't used it, and don't know how to, but it is present and functional.

It is also included on OpenBSD. I can see it working for something like a shared Unix shell, but the system is very primitive by today's standards, specially when there are things like IRC to use instead.

That said, t is great the system comes with such a chat mechanism out of the box.
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Re: Re: your opinion of current world situation
By: mary4 to kirkspragg on Sun May 19 2024 12:26 am

I am a super strong avocate for 20th century Socialism

Good for you, now move to a country which makes a flag of so called 20th century socialism and drop the subject since it is forbidden by policy.
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mary4 wrote to kirkspragg <=-

I am a Marxist-Leninist... aka communist/bolshevik/(derogaatory
by ultra leftists and liberals) tankie I am a super strong
avocate for 20th century Socialism which is worker's state,
centrally planned economy, means of production seized by workers,
and no markets

i am in a Party. the party of the US working class https://partyofcommunistsusa.net or
https://partyofcommunistsusa.org
this is the same site just different domains

basically right to housing/job & vacation/education/health
care/etc. food is something you gotta contribute for so nobody
live off of other in explotative ways

there will be accommodations for those who are disabled (like me)
and there will be jobs that suit them and not to taxing

under capitalism there is severe exploitation
under socialism exploitation is non existant
exploitation is where someone who dose not contribute to society
live off the labor of others. aka the capitalist. they live off
the labor because they own the factories etc. aka the means of
production

Translation: A textbook "entitlement-mentality" case.

Perhaps you should move to a communist country like Russia, and perhaps
you'll be happier there because you won't be "exploited" any more. LOL



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Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Pine, TIN etc.
By: Gamgee to tenser on Fri May 17 2024 06:26 pm

It's installed by default on my Slackware Linux systems. Haven't used it, and don't know how to, but it is present and functional.

It is also included on OpenBSD. I can see it working for
something like a shared Unix shell, but the system is very
primitive by today's standards, specially when there are things
like IRC to use instead.

Yes, I looked into it a little more and it is indeed a product from 'yesteryear'. Very cool (and useful!) a while ago, I'm sure.

That said, t is great the system comes with such a chat mechanism
out of the box.

Agreed!



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Quoting Niter3 to Nightfox <=-

I'm going to have to grab one. We use to have a Costco card... To apparently save money, but we ended up always spending more money when
we had it. So I let it lapse and haven't been there in years.

Andrea pays for our cards. There is no way we save the membership money
in a year. I get gas there but only because I pass by 2 costco's on my
way to work so it's not out of the way.

I know she gets honey from costco because it has the kirkland label on it
other then that...

Shawn

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CHUNKS? YEP! That was the 'added ingredient's I didn't care for.
Ed

There was 54 new messages so far today, and 70 or more yesterday. I don't remember what you're replying to. Would you be so kind as to quote the text you're replying to, please?

Ed is a user here that interfaces via the ecweb interface. My (lacking) experience using it is that it does not automatically quote stuff like the older interface.

Do you know how to make ecweb quote the message being replied to? Thanks!


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Is a detroit style pizza made of steel?

You remember how people would try to smuggle files into prison in cakes? Detroit pizza comes with a gun. Ammo on the side.

lol xD

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While you two argue about those, I'll sit back and use nano.

+1. ~30 years ago, nano (or a predecessor) was the editor that my shell account used as the pine e-mail editor and, IIRC, also with the editor that I used to compose usenet replies.

nano gang! :D

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On Sat, 18 May 2024 18:57:00 -0500, you wrote:

There was 54 new messages so far today, and 70 or more yesterday. I don't
remember what you're replying to. Would you be so kind as to quote the
text you're replying to, please?

Ed is a user here that interfaces via the ecweb interface. My (lacking) experience using it is that it does not automatically quote stuff like the older interface.

Do you know how to make ecweb quote the message being replied to? Thanks!

I wish I did, but I don't at the moment. Is there not a quote button (or reply with quote) on the web interface? If not, I would suggest making a feature request while echicken works on the next latest and greatest web interface!

Regards,
Nick

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Spectre wrote to kirkspragg <=-

If'n you've got the facility to juice your own, the real stuff tends to
be more tart than the supermket varietals. You can just do something
like Grannys or a blend of Grannys and something else if grannys are to much on their own.

I had a friend who couldn't cook to save her life. Dinner parties were
the worst, and I recall going to an all-night diner after one of them.

She could, however, bake. I had a Braeburn apple tree in my back yard,
and after a harvest one year, she took a ton of them with her. She came
back a couple of days later with a couple of the best apple pies I'd
ever had for us. Crusts from scratch, just the right amount of flakey
and sweet.


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niter3 wrote to Nightfox <=-

I'm going to have to grab one. We use to have a Costco card... To apparently save money, but we ended up always spending more money when
we had it. So I let it lapse and haven't been there in years.

I never had room for 48 rolls of toilet paper or a gallon of mayonnaise.
If I had a proper pantry, I'd do most of my shopping there.



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niter3 wrote to Accession <=-

Or near a small town in Appalachia, either.

Or in a van, down by the river?

Matt Foley. :>

The original #vanlife guy! Him and Uncle Rico. They peaked too soon,
could have been YouTube Influencers and made a fortune.



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What is a pineapple lump? o.O

I think they might be unique to New Zealand and Australia. They are chocolate covered soft & chewy centered confectionery.

The center is supposed to be pineapple flavored but I'd say it's more pineapple inspired that flavored. I quite like them.

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If'n you've got the facility to juice your own, the real stuff tends to
be more tart than the supermket varietals. You can just do something
like Grannys or a blend of Grannys and something else if grannys are to much on their own.

Got a local supplier of decent apples and apple juice that attends one of the local farmer's markets. Can get all sorts of interesting apple & apple juice varieties. Not a big apple fan myself (though my partner is) but their Cox's Orange Pippin apple juice is quite nice, goes well with soda water on a hot day.

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Interested in hearing you views about what it

means for you.

Best we take this discussion over to one of the other message boards where politics is an acceptable topic of conversation, Fidonet's politics unlimited should do the trick.


Oh as sorry but I should not have posted that response here it was clearly not in keeping with fsxnets's housekeeping guidelines. You may want to read them, they are here: https://fsxnet.nz/start

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Thanks for explaining why I don't quote.
BBSing on a Android phone fer five months and I am still a beginner at it. Ain't like a REAL keyboard but I make TYPOs on REAL keyboards too.

Still researching for the Bluetooth device I saw in my searching months ago that had a cat5 Ethernet socket on it.
Life would be much easier here if I could talk to this phone from my XP PC.
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Re: Re: your opinion of current world situation
By: Gamgee to mary4 on Sat May 18 2024 12:18 pm

Perhaps you should move to a communist country like Russia, and perhaps you'll be happier there because you won't be "exploited" any more. LOL

21th Century Socialism is a term I associate mainly with South American countries, because it is South American politicians who claim to strive for it. Think Nicolas Maduro.


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On Sat, 18 May 2024 12:15:00 -0700, you wrote:

I never had room for 48 rolls of toilet paper or a gallon of mayonnaise. If I had a proper pantry, I'd do most of my shopping there.

We love Costco. However, I don't care for a gallon of mayonnaise, so I have plenty of room for 48 rolls of toilet paper. :)

Regards,
Nick

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On Sun, 19 May 2024 01:39:34 -0500, you wrote:

Thanks for explaining why I don't quote.
BBSing on a Android phone fer five months and I am still a beginner at it. Ain't like a REAL keyboard but I make TYPOs on REAL keyboards too.

Still researching for the Bluetooth device I saw in my searching months ago
that had a cat5 Ethernet socket on it.
Life would be much easier here if I could talk to this phone from my XP PC.
Ed.

No worries, Ed. But if you can, try to find the "reply with quote" button, or really, anything to do with quoting. You don't even have to trim the quote down if it's hard, just so long as we know what you're replying to.

Your conversation is wonderful, it's just hard to know what you're replying to sometimes when 100s of messages go by.

Regards,
Nick

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Just lol :P


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While you two argue about those, I'll sit back and use nano.

+1. ~30 years ago, nano (or a predecessor) was the editor that my

nano gang! :D

I heard they were smaller than the purple gang and you still need extra protection.


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She could, however, bake. I had a Braeburn apple tree in my back yard,
and after a harvest one year, she took a ton of them with her. She came back a couple of days later with a couple of the best apple pies I'd
ever had for us. Crusts from scratch, just the right amount of flakey
and sweet.

Drool...


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I'm going to have to grab one. We use to have a Costco card... To apparently save money, but we ended up always spending more money
when we had it. So I let it lapse and haven't been there in years.

Some of the kids joined when they first arrived here. The missus went a few times, using the same card. Dragged me along once or twice, but there's
nothing to my mind that is a "compelling" buy there, and nothing appears to
be any cheaper. Can't see how you'd ever cover the cost of the card.

I have much the same problem with ALDI. Can't get everything I want there,
not enough to make it a need to go back again.. have ended up sticking with whatever major supermarket is near by.

Spec


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I think they might be unique to New Zealand and Australia. They are chocolate covered soft & chewy centered confectionery.

I disown them, NZ can have them. Although the pacific islanders seem to have
a thing for them, probably because they all get here via NZ :)

Spec


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On 17 May 2024 at 06:26p, Gamgee pondered and said...

tenser wrote to Avon <=-

On 17 May 2024 at 02:46p, Avon pondered and said...

I'm starting to wonder if we can (in some way) bring it back?

It's still there! One can install it on most Unix-y systems,
Linux distributions, etc.

It's installed by default on my Slackware Linux systems. Haven't used
it, and don't know how to, but it is present and functional.

So there are two components:

* The talk server, which is actually just kind of a little,
in-memory database of talk _requests_, and
* The talk client, of which `ytalk` is one but so are `talk`
and `ntalk`.

The way the protocol works, in a nutshell, is that you send
a talk "request" to a distant host by running the client.
E.g.,

ytalk tenser@fat-dragon.org

This does a couple of things: 1, sends a message to the `talkd`
server _on your local machine_ saying that you want to talk to
the remote user. If there's no existing request _from_ the remote
user, it creates a listening socket and posts it's address locally
_and_ sends a request to the `talkd` on the remote machine saying
you want to talk. The `talkd` on the remote machine then writes
a message to the remote user (provided the user is logged in and
has configured their terminal to answer talk requests). If they
chose to answer you, they then run talk locally in a similar manner
to how you did:

ytalk you@your.host.com

Their local talk client talks to their local talk server, which
has a record of your chat request and the socket your request is
listening on. Your talk client then makes a TCP connection to
that socket; at which point, both clients send a message to their
local talk servers that acknowledges that the connection has been
established, and they're done. You then proceed to talk to the
other user via the TCP connection; the UI is usually a split
screen affair.

So in order for it to work, you have to have both the client
installed, _and_ the talk server installed and configured to
accept requests from the larger Internet. Most folks don't have
the latter part set up (for good reasons; the protocol is totally
insecure, and doesn't play well with firewalls and NAT'ing, etc).

The "standard" talk daemon from Berkeley was run from `inetd`.

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I think they might be unique to New Zealand and Australia. They are chocolate covered soft & chewy centered confectionery.

There are a lot of things that don't taste too good that will if you
cover them in enough chocolate. :D



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Do you know how to make ecweb quote the message being replied to? Thanks

I wish I did, but I don't at the moment. Is there not a quote button (or reply
with quote) on the web interface? If not, I would suggest making a feature request while echicken works on the next latest and greatest web interface!

Looks like it does have a quote button that shows up in firefox on a pc. Hopefully, it shows up on an android phone, too. ;)


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Life would be much easier here if I could talk to this phone from my XP PC.

Life would probably still be much easier if we were all using XT computers, too. :D


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tenser wrote to Gamgee <=-

I'm starting to wonder if we can (in some way) bring it back?

It's still there! One can install it on most Unix-y systems,
Linux distributions, etc.

It's installed by default on my Slackware Linux systems. Haven't used
it, and don't know how to, but it is present and functional.

So there are two components:

* The talk server, which is actually just kind of a little,
in-memory database of talk _requests_, and
* The talk client, of which `ytalk` is one but so are `talk`
and `ntalk`.

The way the protocol works, in a nutshell, is that you send
a talk "request" to a distant host by running the client.
E.g.,

<SNIPPED for brevity>

Great info, thanks! Saved for future reference, and may try to set this
up eventually. Appreciate the time you spent on explaining it!



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On 19 May 2024 at 09:28a, Gamgee pondered and said...

<SNIPPED for brevity>

Great info, thanks! Saved for future reference, and may try to set this up eventually. Appreciate the time you spent on explaining it!

Sure thing! Here's another handy reference:

https://cs.columbia.edu/~hgs/internet/talk.html

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Dumas Walker wrote to ED VANCE <=-

Life would be much easier here if I could talk to this phone from my XP PC.

Life would probably still be much easier if we were all using XT computers, too.

I miss the single-taskedness of DOS. When you were writing a story, you
were writing a story. When you were BBSing, you were BBSing. Now, I've
got 3 windows in the background open, and it's slow morning.

I've upgraded myself into a hole. With a 16:9 monitor, I could run
DOSBOX and fill the screen with a nice proportional font. With an
ultrawide monitor, I get two big black bars on either side, which ruins
the full screen experience for me.

No sympathy expected. :)




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I think they might be unique to New Zealand and Australia. They are chocolate covered soft & chewy centered confectionery.

There are a lot of things that don't taste too good that will if you
cover them in enough chocolate. :D

Its not a great chocolate either. I'm certain that they make it out of the scrapings off the floor.

Spec


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I've upgraded myself into a hole. With a 16:9 monitor, I could run
DOSBOX and fill the screen with a nice proportional font. With an
ultrawide monitor, I get two big black bars on either side, which ruins
the full screen experience for me.

No sympathy expected. :)

No sympathy found - DOS at 16:9 is already doing it wrong, anything wider than 4:3 is incorrect.

:)


Chris/akacastor

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On 19 May 2024, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

I've upgraded myself into a hole. With a 16:9 monitor, I could run
DOSBOX and fill the screen with a nice proportional font. With an
ultrawide monitor, I get two big black bars on either side, which ruins
the full screen experience for me.

i've been thinking about this recently:

most of the dos text experience was with an 8x16 font .. 640x400 for 80x25 cols/rows. this exactly matches a 1920x1200 monitor (which you can actually get)

for a 1080p screen to match you could BBS at 22 rows.. 12 pixels top and bottom isn't as bad of a loss.. you'd lop off the top of most menu ansis but the message reader and all that would be fine. for the authentic bbs experience you can pretend your monitor is partially broken ;)

buuuuut since you'd have viewed it on a monitor that forces 4:3 onto an 8:5 resolution back then anyways, i guess it's not really relevant. a modern monitor simply can't do what a crt does.

i think personally if i was going to be picky i'd like to try out a nice 8x19 font.. that's pretty close to what dosbox might stretch a 4:3 text mode session to on a 1440p 16:9 screen.. you'd still have the bars on the side and lose 15 pixels (so maybe 7 on top 8 on bottom), but you could have the graphics library show the pixels 1:1 instead:
https://learnopengl.com/img/getting-started/texture_filtering.png
where at exactly 2x, and specifically 3x for 1440p (57 pixels tall) it would have no, i duno, "smart" scaling done to it.

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I disown them, NZ can have them. Although the pacific islanders seem to have a thing for them, probably because they all get here via NZ :)

You don't know what your missing. Though my Canadian colleague (my manger in fact) tells me that Whittaker's chocolate is worth buying up in bulk here in NZ before returning home, which he then proceeded to do.

Need to ask him which flavor it was...

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There are a lot of things that don't taste too good that will if you
cover them in enough chocolate. :D

Yup!

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Life would probably still be much easier if we were all using XT computers, too. :D

It would be a lot slower though... maybe that's not a bad thing, but still XT class machines are rather limited. I moved away from my NECv20 clone build to the current 286 build due to how slow & occasionally frustrating it was.....

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Life would probably still be much easier if we were all using XT computers, too. :D

Maybe, it would definitely be a lot slower, thats for sure. I switched from my previous NECv20 based retro PC build to the current 286 based one because of it.

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Re: Re: controversy!
By: Spectre to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 19 2024 06:03 pm

Howdy,

Some of the kids joined when they first arrived here. The missus went a few times, using the same card. Dragged me along once or twice, but there's nothing to my mind that is a "compelling" buy there, and nothing appears to be any cheaper. Can't see how you'd ever cover the cost of the card.

I reckon I've covered the cost of the membership by fuel alone.

On average the fuel is 10-15c/litre cheaper, which translates to around $6/fill savings. Filling up 2x month, I probably breaks even on the membership fee.

The goes there 2-3 month to buy food, but only specific items (meat, seafood) comes to mind and she says its a lot cheaper...

All in all, I dont save that much I guess, but its convenient, only a couple of k's away.


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There are a lot of things that don't taste too good that will if

you

cover them in enough chocolate. :D

Its not a great chocolate either. I'm certain that they make it out of
the scrapings off the floor.

Even floor-scrapings chocolate beats many other things. :D



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You don't know what your missing. Though my Canadian colleague (my manger in fact) tells me that Whittaker's chocolate is worth buying up in bulk here in NZ before returning home, which he then proceeded to do.

Unfortunately I do know what I'm missing :L TThe missus buys them from time
to time when they're on sale. They are available at Woolworths. I don't
know much about Whittaker's other than its the "poor relation" here, the kind of stuff you'd get as a present for someoen you don't like :) So if thats
the standard of Canadian Chocky, they must live in ongoing despair.

Spec


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I reckon I've covered the cost of the membership by fuel alone.

On average the fuel is 10-15c/litre cheaper, which translates to around $6/fill savings. Filling up 2x month, I probably breaks even on the membership fee.

So that begs the question, how much you're paying roughly and where you're filling. I've no idea where you might be able to fill. Generally the cheap servo locally tends to be around the $1.90 mark pretty reliably, making it cheaper than the nominal 4c offering out of Woolworths.

Spec


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Its not a great chocolate either. I'm certain that they make it out of the scrapings off the floor.

Even floor-scrapings chocolate beats many other things. :D

Maybe only possum poo...


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The goes there 2-3 month to buy food, but only specific items (meat, seafood) comes to mind and she says its a lot cheaper...

We tend to pickup odds and ends from the "reguular" supermarkets, but if
you're looking to fill the freezer head over to Tasman Meats. And the prices were either better or the same. Probably depends to some degree what you're actually buying though.

All in all, I dont save that much I guess, but its convenient, only a couple of k's away.

Moorabbin? Its the closest for us too, not as convenient, although at least we've got the freeway these days.

Spec


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AKAcastor wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-

No sympathy found - DOS at 16:9 is already doing it wrong, anything
wider than 4:3 is incorrect.

I still have a 19" 4:3 monitor, but no room on my desk for it!



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It would be a lot slower though... maybe that's not a bad thing, but
still XT class machines are rather limited. I moved away from my
NECv20 clone build to the current 286 build due to how slow &
occasionally frustrating it was.....

I remember when I was coding in college on an XT, using Microsoft C. My
neighbor in the dorms had a 286 with a 287 math coprocessor and it
compiled in a fraction of the time my system took. I bought a 286
motherboard with a 287 and proceeded on my first time opening up a PC.
Spent a couple of sleepless nights wondering what the heck I'd gotten
myself into.

AMD 386/40 was still the peak of DOS box evolution, IMO.


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Re: Re: controversy!
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Sun May 19 2024 09:11 am

I've upgraded myself into a hole. With a 16:9 monitor, I could run DOSBOX and fill the screen with a nice proportional font.

Weren't most DOS programs designed for a 4:3 aspect ratio? I'd think you'd have the black bars on either side running DOSBox in full screen on a 16:9 monitor.

Nightfox

Quoting Nightfox to Warpslide <=-

For a while, Carl's Jr. had a teriyaki burger which had teriyaki sauce
and a grilled pineapple slice on it. I though tit was pretty good. I don't think they have that burger anymore.

Not sure what part of the world you're in, but if you have access to a
burger joint call "The Habit" they have a teriyaki burger on their
regular menu. It's all I order when I go there. :-)


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Re: Re: controversy!
By: Elf to NIGHTFOX on Mon May 20 2024 11:21 am

Not sure what part of the world you're in, but if you have access to a burger joint call "The Habit" they have a teriyaki burger on their regular menu. It's all I order when I go there. :-)

I'm in northwest Oregon. I haven't seen The Habit here.

Nightfox

No sympathy found - DOS at 16:9 is already doing it wrong, anything
wider than 4:3 is incorrect.

I still have a 19" 4:3 monitor, but no room on my desk for it!

This is very relatable - we need more desk space!! Not enough room for one 4:3 monitor, let alone the varied assortment that is really required. Sometimes it's hard to be us. :)


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Re: Re: controversy!
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon May 20 2024 10:01 am

Weren't most DOS programs designed for a 4:3 aspect ratio? I'd think you'd have the black bars on either side running DOSBox in full screen on a 16:9 monitor.

DOSBOX does text-mode stretching. I haven't tried playing a DOS game in DOSBOX, it'd probably pad a 4:3 screen.

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Re: Re: controversy!
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Mon May 20 2024 03:17 pm

Weren't most DOS programs designed for a 4:3 aspect ratio? I'd think you'd
have the black bars on either side running DOSBox in full screen on a 16:9
monitor.

DOSBOX does text-mode stretching. I haven't tried playing a DOS game in DOSBOX, it'd probably pad a 4:3 screen.

Ah. Still, I think text meant for 4:3 stretched to 16:9 looks a little weird.

Nightfox

Re: Re: controversy!
By: Spectre to deon on Tue May 21 2024 01:21 am

Howdy,

So that begs the question, how much you're paying roughly and where you're filling. I've no idea where you might be able to fill. Generally the cheap servo locally tends to be around the $1.90 mark pretty reliably, making it cheaper than the nominal 4c offering out of Woolworths.

So I generally pass 2-3 survos before I get to costco. If they are advertising the $1.90/l rate (and they dont take the 4c from coles/woolies), then costco would generally be sub $1.80/l...


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I tried quoting but somehow "I" tapped somewhere on this phone and saw all kinds of other things on the screen, Clipboard came up cuz the phone thought it was what I needed, so I cancelled it, when all cleared up the section of Your post with the URL to the web page was no longer in existence.
Anyway I was only wanting to mention seeing the GIF of someone typing made me wish I wasn't using this phone because IF I was on the XP box here I would have hovered the mouse cursor over that thar GIF and swiped it.
Ed
P.S. the text below is there because I was too lazy to tap the delete key hundreds of times to get rid of it.

Not sure what part of the world you're in, but if you have access to a burger joint call "The Habit" they have a teriyaki burger on their
regular menu. It's all I order when I go there. :-)

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Quoting Nightfox to Elf <=-

Not sure what part of the world you're in, but if you have access to a burger joint call "The Habit" they have a teriyaki burger on their regular menu. It's all I order when I go there. :-)

I'm in northwest Oregon. I haven't seen The Habit here.

Yeah, I took a quick look at their site - looks like you would have to
go to Washington or Idaho. I'm in Utah near the southern Idaho border.

https://www.habitburger.com

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Re: your opinion of current world situation
By: Nightfox to fusion on Tue May 14 2024 09:50 am

It seems the better technologies don't always win out. For PC operating systems, I thought OS/2 was better than Windows, but Windows ended up becoming the de facto standard.

OS/2 might've been better than Win9x, but it was not better than Windows NT (IMHO). And of course, IBM messed up the marketing of OS/2.
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Re: your opinion of current world situation
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri May 24 2024 07:07 pm

OS/2 might've been better than Win9x, but it was not better than Windows NT (IMHO). And of course, IBM messed up the marketing of OS/2.

I only used Windows NT a little bit, and perhaps not enough to know what advantage it had over OS/2. I thought OS/2 got pretty good up to its last version though.

I agree IBM messed up the marketing of OS/2. And I think IBM could have pushed it more. I think that was one of the main reasons it failed.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Pine, TIN etc.
By: fusion to Blue White on Fri May 17 2024 10:04 am

for example, "telnet vert.synchro.net 11" (that is, port 11) will dump the currently active users, and a program made to use MSP could send messages to them..

I suggest you use nc (or netcat) for that kind of thing instead of telnet though. :-)
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ironically i almost didn't post that one (the text editor one was the other one) .. that and suggesting detroit style pizza is better than
deep dish seems to ruffle some feathers :)

I traveled to Chicago recently, and we made sure to get some Chicago-style pizza while in Chicago.

And it was good, though really more like eating lasagna than eating pizza.

But when asked if it was my favorite type of pizza, because of preferring it over various thin-crust versions, I said no, because I think Detroit-style is my favorite type.

And _that's_ weird because I think Detroit-style barely registers as being a distinct style.

But I guess the combo of being able to have lots of toppings with bread that can support it winds up being my preference.

Though, really, I should probably eat less pizza. :)

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ironically i almost didn't post that one (the text editor one was the other one) .. that and suggesting detroit style pizza is better than deep dish seems to ruffle some feathers :)

I traveled to Chicago recently, and we made sure to get some
Chicago-style pizza while in Chicago.

And it was good, though really more like eating lasagna than eating

You know, I just read an article that stated that Portland, Oregon pizza was in the top 10 in America - I have to take my GF out to try it sometime soon!!!



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Though, really, I should probably eat less pizza. :)

Now there is a controversial opinion if ever there was one.... Maybe you just need to eat more of the right pizza.

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Re: Re: Pizza!
By: paulie420 to Adept on Wed Jun 05 2024 06:23 pm

You know, I just read an article that stated that Portland, Oregon pizza was in the top 10 in America - I have to take my GF out to try it sometime soon!!!

I saw that. I do like the variety of pizza in the area.

Nightfox

You know, I just read an article that stated that Portland, Oregon pizza was in the top 10 in America - I have to take my GF out to try it
sometime soon!!!

I will, of course, assume that Portland-style pizza is a little bit weird.

But so are you, and that's a positive, so hopefully you and your GF like it.

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Though, really, I should probably eat less pizza. :)

Now there is a controversial opinion if ever there was one.... Maybe you just need to eat more of the right pizza.

Oh, the thought came mostly out of my mom trying to lower her cholesterol levels without taking a statin, so she's getting fairly close to a vegan diet, at this point, and that has meant less pizza.

Or, well, it probably _should_, because for as many interesting fake options there are out there, cheese seems to be pretty darn hard.

But, regardless, it would be good if I ate less pizza that didn't taste that great and wasn't great for me.

Though pizza is hardly the worst-for-me thing I've eaten.

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Re: Re: Pizza!
By: Adept to paulie420 on Thu Jun 06 2024 08:31 pm

You know, I just read an article that stated that Portland, Oregon pizza
was in the top 10 in America - I have to take my GF out to try it
sometime soon!!!

I will, of course, assume that Portland-style pizza is a little bit weird.

Weird in what way? A lot of the pizza in the area here is probably fairly normal pizza, with the usual combination-style pizzas (usually with toppings like sausage, salami, onion, green pepper, olives, etc.), Hawaiian (Canadian bacon & pineapple), and other options, with thin or thick crust, etc.. I have my favorite places that I think make tasty pizza. There's also at least one chain (Pizza Schmizza) that makes some more unusual/weird pizzas (there's one with hickory smoked bacon, baby red potatoes, roma tomatoes, and sour cream; a steak & potato pizza; they also have another one that includes alligator sausage, and so on).

Nightfox

You know, I just read an article that stated that Portland, Oregon pi was in the top 10 in America - I have to take my GF out to try it som soon!!!

I saw that. I do like the variety of pizza in the area.

I know that one Portland place... Pizza Fifty??? Or something with 'fifty' in the name. I was suggested another one - do you know of any good ones in the city?



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Nightfox was heard saying....

Weird in what way? A lot of the pizza in the area here is probably

I wonder if you guys have "Brampton style" pizza anywhere? So Brampton
is a city near Toronto with a large Indian population. The butter chicken pizza is amazing. (Butter chicken sauce as a base). They have various
other's with indian spices. I believe "Popular Pizza" was the chain that started it.


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pizza. There's also at least one chain (Pizza Schmizza) that makes some more unusual/weird pizzas (there's one with hickory smoked bacon, baby
red potatoes, roma tomatoes, and sour cream; a steak & potato pizza;
they also have another one that includes alligator sausage, and so on).

Given Portland's reputation for being a little weird, that does seem like about the sort of thing I was expecting, with my comment.

I do appreciate unusual food options, generally, so it sounds like a neat place.

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On 07 Jun 2024, Tiny said the following...

I wonder if you guys have "Brampton style" pizza anywhere? So Brampton
is a city near Toronto with a large Indian population. The butter
chicken pizza is amazing. (Butter chicken sauce as a base). They have various other's with indian spices. I believe "Popular Pizza" was the chain that started it.

Reeeeealllllyyyyyy!! I've not heard of this yet, just went to their website and they have a location here in Hamilton. We have dinner plans tonight, but I know what we're having for dinner tomorrow! :)


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Re: Re: Pizza!
By: paulie420 to Nightfox on Thu Jun 06 2024 07:52 pm

I saw that. I do like the variety of pizza in the area.

I know that one Portland place... Pizza Fifty??? Or something with 'fifty' in the name. I was suggested another one - do you know of any good ones in the city?

It looks like it's Lovely's Fifty Fifty? I haven't heard of it. It looks like there's one in north Portland. It might be interesting to check it out.

I'm on the west side.. Probably the closest local pizza chain to me is Belaggio's Pizza (which I think is pretty good) and Pizza Schmizza (which I also like).

One good pizza place I like in Portland is Pizza Baron. I think they only have one location. I haven't been there in a while; I should probably go there again some time. Their pizza kinda reminded me of Pietro's, if you're familiar with them.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Pizza!
By: Tiny to Nightfox on Fri Jun 07 2024 06:45 am

I wonder if you guys have "Brampton style" pizza anywhere? So Brampton is a city near Toronto with a large Indian population. The butter chicken pizza is amazing. (Butter chicken sauce as a base). They have various other's with indian spices. I believe "Popular Pizza" was the chain that started it.

I'm not familiar with Brampton style pizza, but I have heard of similar pizzas. There is a population of Indian people here as well, and there's a restaurant (or at least there was) near me called Curry and Crust which made Indian food and Indian-style pizzas.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Pizza!
By: Adept to Nightfox on Fri Jun 07 2024 12:54 pm

Given Portland's reputation for being a little weird, that does seem like about the sort of thing I was expecting, with my comment.

I do appreciate unusual food options, generally, so it sounds like a neat place.

I think the Portland area is weird in a good way. Fun quirks. :)

Nightfox

Warpslide was heard saying....

various other's with indian spices. I believe "Popular Pizza" was the

Reeeeealllllyyyyyy!! I've not heard of this yet, just went to their website and they have a location here in Hamilton. We have dinner plans tonight, but I know what we're having for dinner tomorrow! :)

Nice! Let me know what you think. I do really like the butter chicken
base.



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Yes, I'm Opinionated as everyone else is.

This was on a food topic, and I've tended to like food for this.

Because I think people should be able to passionately argue for why various foods are great/terrible, or that one should _always_ do one thing or another with a certain recipe.

And, at the end of it, people can eat whatever food works for them, and even if that's coconut (which isn't food; it's just "edible" sawdust), my opinion on the person hasn't changed, because my arguments, while extremely serious, are not actually serious at all.

People can eat whatever they like, and I'm not going to judge them, even if I'm totally going to judge them in the sense of one color being superior to another, when the difference is entirely subjective.

But it's nice when people are passionate about the food choices, even if they're wrong.

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This was on a food topic, and I've tended to like food for this.

Because I think people should be able to passionately argue for why various foods are great/terrible, or that one should _always_ do one thing or another with a certain recipe.

And, at the end of it, people can eat whatever food works for them, and even if that's coconut (which isn't food; it's just "edible" sawdust), my opinion on the person hasn't changed, because my arguments, while extremely serious, are not actually serious at all.

People can eat whatever they like, and I'm not going to judge them, even if I'm totally going to judge them in the sense of one color being superior to another, when the difference is entirely subjective.

But it's nice when people are passionate about the food choices, even if they're wrong.

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WOW!, That comment of mine was made on 16May24.
It took me a long while scrolling upwards in this thread to see it.

The opinion is in reference to my liking Taco Sauce instead of Taco Salsa because the latter product has chunks in it.
While scrolling up through the posts I saw topics about ytalk server stuff, and there were other things talked about too!

My not knowing how to 'find' a word in a thread on this phone is what caused me to hunt the post that I made the comment in.

The word DIFFICULT doesn't explain fully my thoughts of how DIFFERENT using this cellphone compared to the computer(s) here in my room.

At least quoting messages is easy now that I've been told how.

On the subject of Food - I don't believe in Food Fights just because I use Taco Sauce on Scrambled Eggs.
I like what I like, others like food that they like. No argument here.

I told a manager at a Buffet my only complaint I had is that every time I walk in the place I waddle out.

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I told a manager at a Buffet my only complaint I had is that every time
I walk in the place I waddle out.

Boy, do I understand/agree with that!

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And, at the end of it, people can eat whatever food works for them, and even if that's coconut (which isn't food; it's just "edible" sawdust), my

Chuckle.

Are you eating the Kapok portion of the coconut? While I'm no fan of coconut in general, sawdust seems a little harsh. Unless wherever you are gets only really dry shredded...

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Boy, do I understand/agree with that!

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The manager had a very serious look on his face until I said waddle out.
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Boy, do I understand/agree with that!

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The manager had a very serious look on his face until I said waddle out. Ed

I bet, LOL!
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Are you eating the Kapok portion of the coconut? While I'm no fan of coconut in general, sawdust seems a little harsh. Unless wherever you
are gets only really dry shredded...

I mean the texture that you'd get in the candy bars that involve chocolate-covered coconut. So, yeah, it's not _really_ sawdust, but moistened sawdust covered in milk chocolate.

I have oftentimes had a very strong sweet tooth, and I remember a time when I was interested in eating cake that a coworker had brought.

Then I found that it was covered in coconut, and I no longer considered it food.

That said, my mom's favorite candy bars are Mounds and Almond Joy, so whatever I _detest_ about it must be enjoyable for my mom.

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I mean the texture that you'd get in the candy bars that involve chocolate-covered coconut. So, yeah, it's not _really_ sawdust, but moistened sawdust covered in milk chocolate.

That said, my mom's favorite candy bars are Mounds and Almond Joy, so whatever I _detest_ about it must be enjoyable for my mom.

No idea what Mounds or Almond joy might be, they don't sound to joyful
though. Only two things come to mind that I can look sideways at here with coconut in them, Cherry Ripe, and Bounty. Not big on Cherry Ripe but while there's a fair slab of coconut in there it doesn't seem to get in the way of the taste. Bounty on the other hand, near 95% coconut and I dunno what it is about that one, sometimes will get a hankering for it.

Ahh by the image your Mounds is probably somewhat similar to aa Bounty.

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Re: Re: controversy!
By: Spectre to Adept on Sat Jun 15 2024 09:46 pm

That said, my mom's favorite candy bars are Mounds and Almond Joy, so
whatever I _detest_ about it must be enjoyable for my mom.

No idea what Mounds or Almond joy might be, they don't sound to joyful though.

They're candy bars - Mounds is sweetened coconut in dark chocolate, and Almond Joy is the same but with a couple of almonds added.

Nightfox

They're candy bars - Mounds is sweetened coconut in dark chocolate, and Almond Joy is the same but with a couple of almonds added.

Sounds better than a mouthful of Kapok. Also sounds more like the local "Bounty" bar.

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Nightfox wrote to Spectre <=-

They're candy bars - Mounds is sweetened coconut in dark chocolate, and Almond Joy is the same but with a couple of almonds added.

"Almond Joy's got nuts, Mounds don't. Because - some times you feel like
a nut, sometimes you don't!"

BURNED INTO MY HEAD FROM CHILDHOOD.


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Re: Re: controversy!
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sun Jun 16 2024 08:01 am

"Almond Joy's got nuts, Mounds don't. Because - some times you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't!"

BURNED INTO MY HEAD FROM CHILDHOOD.

Yep. :)

Nightfox

poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-

They're candy bars - Mounds is sweetened coconut in dark chocolate, and Almond Joy is the same but with a couple of almonds added.

"Almond Joy's got nuts, Mounds don't. Because - some times you feel
like a nut, sometimes you don't!"

BURNED INTO MY HEAD FROM CHILDHOOD.

So.... Does that mean that Almond Joys are boys and Mounds are girls?


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Ahh by the image your Mounds is probably somewhat similar to aa Bounty.

Yeah, I think it's called Bounty in Germany, too, but I'm pretty sure they're the same candy bar by the same company.

I don't think there's a German equivalent of Almond Joy, but it's effectively a Bounty bar with an almond on top of it (if it's a tiny bar, or almonds spaced on top if it's larger), but covered in chocolate from there.

And, yeah, I'm not sure I could even stand to lick them, as I'd probably get the occasional lick with coconut texture coming off of it.

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