Hello esc,

On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 09:02:40 -0800, you wrote:

Thanks! I'll be honest - I'm wary of anything VMWare after the Broadcom purchase. Plus proxmox is on debian and I know my way around debian
super well, so I'll likely go with that option. But I think you're right that it's probably six in one half dozen in the other.

I don't follow what either has done, really. But I've been using the same VMWare version now for 5+ years, without having to do anything except point my browser to the web interface if I had to check on anything or install/remove a VM. So knowing your way around Debian doesn't really matter at all. I would assume that it's fairly close to the same with Proxmox. Once you install it, you don't really have to do anything with it itself. Just setup and maintain your VMs, which you can do via the web interface. Maybe if it were more of a serious production environment would you possibly need to upgrade it a bit more often, but for DOS VMs, and BBS related stuff, meh. lol

Ok cool. That gives me an idea what I can expect. Honestly, I shouldn't need to spec this box super well, it's just going to run BBS related
stuff. I think I have an Intel NUC which may even serve the purpose
here. But on eBay, that same rig is <$200 so at least I know what I'd
need to get myself into!

I took a quick look at ebay while I was writing that friggin novel to you, there's some on there for like ~$200 that would probably serve you just fine. Basically the same processor, but maybe 16gb ram, and less HDD space. Like I said, I probably went a bit overkill but the price was too good at the time to pass up on a new machine.

My concern would really be fan noise and power consumption at that
point. It's going to be in my office which is where I'll take calls and VTCs so quietness/silence is pretty important.

My son's gaming rig is louder than this server - which sits under my desk by my left foot. I think the loudest the thing gets is when you first start it up, it beeps. :)

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Tiny,

On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:54:10 -0500, you wrote:

Remastered. It runs standalone, but it's worth the money as I hadn't played myst in so long I've forgot the puzzles. It's fun re living the early 90's.

Correction, it's fun re-living the early 90s, in virtual reality! ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Re: Anyone seen/connected to...
By: poindexter FORTRAN to esc on Wed Dec 06 2023 09:10 am

I never noticed how much noise my homelab made until I started taking video calls from my office and making recorders. The biggest culprit is a Synology NAS, it's got 4 small fans in it that make most of the noise.

I spent some time this morning listening to my homelab - the Synology does make the majority of the noise; I took it down and blew the dust off of the fans, which seems to help with the off-balance noise fans can make.

Synology has a low-power setting that sometimes turns the fans off if the temp cools sufficiently. I've got that turned on for the winter.

My Proxmox server is a Thinkpad, and I bought a cheap fan laptop mat to keep it cool. Turns out some of the noise was coming from it, so I took it apart and oiled the bearings. All in all, it's significantly quieter.
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Re: Anyone seen/connected to...
By: Accession to esc on Wed Dec 06 2023 06:08 pm

install/remove a VM. So knowing your way around Debian doesn't really matter at all. I would assume that it's fairly close to the same with Proxmox. Once you install it, you don't really have to do anything with it itself. Just setup and maintain your VMs, which you can do via the web interface. Maybe if it were more of a serious production environment would you possibly need to upgrade it a bit more often, but for DOS VMs, and BBS related stuff, meh. lol

You can do most anything in the Proxmox VE GUI, similar to ESXi. Every once in a while, you need to go to a shell to make changes to the command line.

There's an upgrade option in the GUI; I don't know if you could schedule it from the GUI, but you could run it in cron from the CLI, another case where knowing a little *nix helps.
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On 03 Dec 2023, Accession said the following...

I would imagine 'they' don't know when they depart either. Whether it be the system is left on autopilot for months on end, and then finally something breaks and they don't realize it until whenever they decide to check on things, or just don't bother and turn the machine off. But
yeah, I usually take a quick look at my outbound directories once every few months and if there's backed up packets/bundles, I look further into it.

I'm guilty of that. Try to remember to check my in/outbound every once in a while as well to make sure it's flowing but it's easy to get busy doing other stuff.

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On 03 Dec 2023, Tiny said the following...

Currently mucking about with the VR world. Picked up a quest 2 on a
black friday sale. (Refurb model) it's fun... wish my computer was powerful enough to check out no man's sky in VR but it barly runs as it is. (I did try... took an hour and 1/2 to load)

I just sold mine on ebay last week. Got it for myself last christmas and used it a total of two times.

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