• Re: Streaming Netflix on a Pi

    From Pancho@3:770/3 to scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us on Sat Apr 22 10:52:05 2023
    On 21/04/2023 16:13, scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us wrote:
    Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote:
    I have Amazon Prime, for about $10 a month, which I've had for years.
    Recently I changed my HTPC for an orange Pi, I put a lot of effort into
    getting Amazon Prime Video to work at all, now it works, but badly.

    Which model of Orange Pi, and under what OS? I recently obtained an Orange Pi 5 and put Android on it. Prime Video runs like a champ on it...more responsive than any of the Fire TV sticks I have.

    Which version/download of Android? Do you get full quality Prime Video 6GB/hour?

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  • From scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us@3:770/3 to Pancho on Sun Apr 23 04:29:34 2023
    Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote:
    On 21/04/2023 16:13, scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us wrote:
    Which model of Orange Pi, and under what OS? I recently obtained an Orange >> Pi 5 and put Android on it. Prime Video runs like a champ on it...more
    responsive than any of the Fire TV sticks I have.

    Which version/download of Android?

    Whichever version was available for download a couple of weeks ago...think
    it's based on Android 12, which is newer than what's on my phone. :)

    Do you get full quality Prime Video 6GB/hour?

    I don't know and I don't know where I'd look. TBH, it's used more for Plex, SiriusXM, and YouTube (via Invidious) than Prime Video. It's plugged into a 55" TV, and I have no complaints about video quality.

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  • From Pancho@3:770/3 to scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us on Sun Apr 23 23:47:51 2023
    On 23/04/2023 05:29, scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us wrote:
    Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote:
    On 21/04/2023 16:13, scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us wrote:
    Which model of Orange Pi, and under what OS? I recently obtained an Orange >>> Pi 5 and put Android on it. Prime Video runs like a champ on it...more
    responsive than any of the Fire TV sticks I have.

    Which version/download of Android?

    Whichever version was available for download a couple of weeks ago...think it's based on Android 12, which is newer than what's on my phone. :)

    Do you get full quality Prime Video 6GB/hour?

    I don't know and I don't know where I'd look.

    While watching a video, mouse over the window, an "Options" menu icon
    (cog) will appear in the top right corner. That menu will list Video
    Quality. If "Best" is about 6 GB per hour, you have full DRM security,
    if "Best" is about 1 GB per hour you don't

    TBH, it's used more for Plex,
    SiriusXM, and YouTube (via Invidious) than Prime Video. It's plugged into a 55" TV, and I have no complaints about video quality.

    Is that at 4K?

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  • From Newyana2@3:770/3 to bob prohaska on Mon Apr 24 21:30:25 2023
    "bob prohaska" <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote

    | Any thoughts on how well it'd work, and how the streaming
    | catalog compares to the DVD catalog (which has dwindled
    | hugely since the good old days)?
    |

    I stream Netflix on an RPi4. I don't remember the
    details exactly. I think it used to require installing
    Widevine for Chromium but I think now it's pre-installed.
    There was someone online who provided an esoteric
    installer for awhile. But I'm pretty sure that now there's no
    special fiddling needed. Just make sure to update Chromium.

    The only issue was that Widevine
    wasn't provided for ARM CPUs. But I think that now it
    is. It may even now be in Firefox on ARM, but Chromium
    is probably a better bet. You can check into that.

    I've been running it for years. In one room I
    have Win7 with FF. In another room I have an RPi4 with
    Chromium, plus a wireless keyboard/mouse. I pipe both of
    them to a TV with HDMI. No problems. It's also nice for
    the relative privacy. I don't connect either TV to the Internet.

    We got the discs for years. I loved it. But then they started
    cutting back on their stock. It got to where everything I
    wanted to see was unavailable. The streaming has gone
    downhill the same way. And of course, the streaming selection
    never was very good. I often just can't find anything that
    I want to see. I get more DVDs from the local library than
    movies on Netflix. It's mostly crap, dumb TV series, Korean
    TV (?)... whatever they can get cheap. Plus their own
    productions, which are mostly crap.

    But it's not entirely Netflix's fault. Several companies are
    trying to take over streaming and refuse to release their
    movies. If it's Paramount+ it will show up at the library, but
    never on Netflix. AppleTV? You'll need to subscribe to that.
    Disney? You probably need to subscribe to Disney. Amazon
    has a lot, but much of it is expensive. (I saw Tar at a friend's
    house on Amazon. $20!) Netflix can't get any of that stuff,
    because the other companies are competing with them.

    Netflix is cheap and sometimes OK. So we keep it. I don't
    do business with Amazon. I would never buy anything from Apple.
    And I don't appreciate those other 2-bit companies trying to
    force me to buy their subscription. It's just not worth it. But
    I do sacrifice. For example, Jennifer Lawrence's new movie,
    Causeway. It's on AppleTV. So I'll likely never see it. I'm surprised
    that good actors like that are willing to go to the trouble to be
    limited by streaming lock-in.

    Anyway, long story short, yes it works. It might be worth it
    for the cheap price. But don't get your hopes up... Also, there's
    a very handy extension for FF. Probably for Chrome, too. I can't think
    of the name of it offhand, but it gives you IMDB and RottenTomatoes
    ratings on Netflix. Very handy. You can set the minimum rating. So,
    for example, say you set movies to 6.5. The extension will look up
    movies, almost instantly, and show ratings only for movies that meet
    your criteria or above. Each movie listing will show something like, say,
    a yellow 6.5 (IMDB) and a red 71 (RT). Or there will be no rating if
    the movie or show doesn't rank high enough. That saves a lot of work
    because Netflix stuffs their selection with absolute crap they can get
    for cheap. With the ratings you can visually filter what's worth
    checking out.

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  • From scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us@3:770/3 to Pancho on Tue Apr 25 15:55:16 2023
    Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote:
    On 23/04/2023 05:29, scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us wrote:
    TBH, it's used more for Plex,
    SiriusXM, and YouTube (via Invidious) than Prime Video. It's plugged into a >> 55" TV, and I have no complaints about video quality.

    Is that at 4K?

    1080p. The TV's about 12 years old and still works like a champ...haven't
    seen any reason to replace it.

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  • From bob prohaska@3:770/3 to Newyana2@invalid.nospam on Wed Apr 26 15:54:00 2023
    Newyana2 <Newyana2@invalid.nospam> wrote:

    We got the discs for years. I loved it. But then they started
    cutting back on their stock. It got to where everything I
    wanted to see was unavailable. The streaming has gone
    downhill the same way. And of course, the streaming selection
    never was very good. I often just can't find anything that
    I want to see. I get more DVDs from the local library than
    movies on Netflix. It's mostly crap, dumb TV series, Korean
    TV (?)... whatever they can get cheap. Plus their own
    productions, which are mostly crap.


    Ok, so the Pi works for streaming netflix, but there's still
    little to see.....8-(

    I too have noticed the shrinking selection in disks and really
    hoped the trend might be reversed by switching to streaming,
    not least because the disks are going away. It's become real
    work to keep a one-at-a-time disk queue from going dry, sounds
    like it'll be worse with streaming.

    I may try streaming, but am much less sure than I was.

    Thank you for writing!

    bob prohaska

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  • From Newyana2@3:770/3 to bob prohaska on Wed Apr 26 16:31:26 2023
    "bob prohaska" <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote

    | I may try streaming, but am much less sure than I was.
    |

    It's frustrating. There are so many streaming companies now,
    and they all want to restrict their stock to their service. On the
    bright side, one-screen-at-a-time service on Netfix at 720p
    is only $10/month. Last night I watched the John Mulaney
    stand up that just came out. You can find lists online to give
    you an idea of what they have. There are "What's on Netflix"
    websites. (Our TVs are only 720p anyway, and frankly I don't
    care about 1080 or 4K. We used to have a CRT and I didn't
    notice the difference between that and 720. The picture is
    fine for my aging eyes.) Two streams at 1080 is $15.50.

    Another option, if you live someplace with a good library, is
    two other services: Hoopla and Kanopy. I sometimes watch things
    on Hoopla. It's not a big selection, but there are some interesting
    things like Tibetan or Arabic movies. And mamby pamby stuff
    like Sleepless in Seattle. Kanopy has more, but their website
    gave me trouble with my password at one point and I haven't
    had motivation to get it fixed. If your local library has one or
    both of those you can stream for free. The library pays. And it
    works through the browser.

    I can't see where this is all going. Will people end up paying
    $80/month for 7 different services? Not me. But
    I have a good library for DVD selection. Most people don't.

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  • From bob prohaska@3:770/3 to Newyana2@invalid.nospam on Thu Apr 27 01:48:47 2023
    Newyana2 <Newyana2@invalid.nospam> wrote:
    "bob prohaska" <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote

    | I may try streaming, but am much less sure than I was.
    |


    Another option, if you live someplace with a good library, is
    two other services: Hoopla and Kanopy.

    I have a decent library a couple blocks away. Their webside doesn't
    seem to recognize either Hoopla or Kanopy as streaming services.

    The library does appear to have DVDs, maybe that's worth exploring.

    Thanks for writing!

    bob prohaska

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