• Re: Welcome the New Moderator

    From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Powell on Sun Jun 1 12:54:06 2025
    Gregory, in past, has had some decent interactions with persons who don't agree with him, so I was persuaded to let him take it over.

    Mike, I appreciate your trust and confidence. You're absolutely right. There have indeed been some lively and decent interactions with individuals who haven't always agreed with me, and there certainly will be more of those in the future. Disagreements are welcome; they're part of what makes robust debate possible. However, there might also be those who choose to test boundaries or deliberately provoke.

    To them, I'll simply say this: spirited discussion is encouraged, but disrespect won't be tolerated.
    Greg

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Jun 1 15:39:44 2025
    Hello Gregory!

    Sunday June 01 2025 11:52, you wrote to Dan Clough:

    Will you please fuck off and go away?
    Right from gate his tone w/ me was abrasive and disrespectful.
    Respect must be earned, I don't just respect some random silly goose.

    Alex

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to Dan Clough on Sun Jun 1 15:37:14 2025
    Hello Dan!

    Sunday June 01 2025 08:50, you wrote to me:

    Oh, and fuck Ukraine also.
    Putin's fan, go back to Moscow, fascist.

    Alex

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Jun 1 15:37:08 2025
    Gregory, in past, has had some decent interactions with persons who don't agree with him, so I was persuaded to let him take it over.

    Mike, I appreciate your trust and confidence. You're absolutely right. There have indeed been some lively and decent interactions with individuals who haven't always agreed with me, and there certainly will be more of those in the future. Disagreements are welcome; they're part of what makes robust debate possible. However, there might also be those who choose to test boundaries or deliberately provoke.

    To them, I'll simply say this: spirited discussion is encouraged, but disrespect won't be tolerated.

    That is an excellent policy. ;)

    Mike
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alex Galiyev on Sun Jun 1 17:54:56 2025
    Alex,

    Let's make something perfectly clear, shall we? Your continuous
    questioning of my authority and repeated mockery of my role as moderator ends here and now.

    I have carefully cataloged your interactions:

    1."May we know who elected you in the first place?"
    - Directly questioning legitimacy without basis.

    2."So you took over this echo without anyone electing you, simply to demonstrate your power and punish us - that's dictatorship."
    - Accusing appointment as dictatorial.

    3."The transfer of power in monarchy style. 'Here is your new King, I decided
    so, so live with it'."
    - Sarcastically comparing moderation changes to monarchic rule.

    4."Here come the dictator's narratives... The man dreamed of a bit of power,
    and he obtained it."
    - Openly attacking character as power-hungry.

    5. "Wow, such a disgrace. Thank you for showing us who you really are. #
    POLITICS official rules: Please refrain from 'drunk posting' or posting while stoned."
    - Mocking official guidelines, trivializing community standards.

    6."Hello Dan! Sunday June 01 2025 08:50, you wrote to me: DC> Oh, and fuck Ukraine also. Putin's fan, go back to Moscow, fascist."
    - Using inflammatory language and accusing another participant of fascism.

    7."Respect must be earned, I don't just respect some random silly
    goose."
    - Explicitly defying moderation authority and refusing basic respect.

    These behaviors are neither innocent nor acceptable. They constitute open defiance, personal insinuations, and intentional disruptions aimed at undermining moderation and community cohesion.
    Understand clearly who you are dealing with I am the Network Coordinator (NC) of the entire state of New York, a state neighboring yours. My role demands respect, adherence to policy, and proper conduct.
    Be assured, I do not play games when it comes to maintaining order and standards within this community. Additionally, to clarify my position, I am non-sympathetic towards Ukraine, especially considering the enormous sums exceeding billions of dollars the U.S. has supplied to a country widely recognized for significant corruption and questionable dealings, particularly related to the Biden administration.
    Personally, I believe it is a gift from God that this tired old man and his clown show that was the Biden Administration moved out of town.
    This stance, however, does not imply that I am pro-Putin, nor does it align me with fascist views, contrary to your inflammatory accusations directed at Dan Clough. This is NOT a warning but consider it a precursor to one.
    A final opportunity to correct course. It's totally your move.
    A direct signal that further disruption will not be tolerated.
    Therefore, you have two choices moving forward:
    Engage respectfully, adhere to the established guidelines, and contribute constructively to discussions. Continue your disruptive behavior and face decisive moderation actions, including potential removal from the echo.
    The choice is yours, Alex. I strongly suggest you make it wisely.

    Gregory Deyss Moderator

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Alex Galiyev on Sun Jun 1 17:12:15 2025
    Alex Galiyev wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Oh, and fuck Ukraine also.

    Putin's fan, go back to Moscow, fascist.

    I'm not a Putin fan, and I've never been to Moscow, moron.

    I'll say it again, so you might be able to understand - fuck you, and
    fuck Ukraine.

    We've (the USA) wasted enough money trying to bail you losers out.
    Fight your own fuckin war. Get your dumb ass back there and pick up a
    rifle, or stop your bitching, you little pussy.



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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Jun 1 18:45:11 2025
    Hello Gregory!

    Sunday June 01 2025 17:54, you wrote to me:

    Ban 1:135/115 first for personal attacks, then I will respond to your message.

    Alex

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to Dan Clough on Sun Jun 1 18:42:41 2025
    Hello Dan!

    Sunday June 01 2025 17:12, you wrote to me:

    We've (the USA) wasted enough money trying to bail you losers out.
    Who "you"? I'm not from Ukraine, never been there.

    Alex

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Jun 1 20:50:17 2025
    Hello Dan!

    Ban this guy for personal attacks.
    He started first, I was defending myself (common law).
    You have your rules and claimed you will not tolerate this behaviour.

    I'm not a Putin fan, and I've never been to Moscow, moron.
    I'll say it again, so you might be able to understand - fuck you, and
    fuck Ukraine.
    We've (the USA) wasted enough money trying to bail you losers out.
    Fight your own fuckin war. Get your dumb ass back there and pick up a
    rifle, or stop your bitching, you little pussy.


    Alex

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alex Galiyev on Sun Jun 1 22:03:26 2025
    On 01 Jun 2025, Alex Galiyev said the following...

    Hello Gregory!

    Sunday June 01 2025 17:54, you wrote to me:

    Ban 1:135/115 first for personal attacks, then I will respond to your message.
    Let me get this straight, you're actually making demands now?
    Only to offer your response? Did I get that right?

    First. You are out of line.
    Why? You don't come at me making demands (period)

    Second. Alex.. it doesn't work like that..

    Maybe, Just Maybe if you didn't come at me like a wrecking ball with your accusatory tone, and the rest of it.
    (Which is below for your review) - BTW
    Directly questioning legitimacy without basis.
    Accusing appointment as dictatorial.
    Sarcastically comparing moderation changes to monarchic rule.
    Openly attacking character as power-hungry.
    Mocking official guidelines, trivializing community standards.
    Using inflammatory language and accusing another participant of fascism. Explicitly defying moderation authority and refusing basic respect.

    I think we can skip the fidonet tribunal this time.
    Case closed.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alex Galiyev on Sun Jun 1 22:25:13 2025
    On 01 Jun 2025, Alex Galiyev said the following...

    Hello Dan!

    Ban this guy for personal attacks.
    He started first, I was defending myself (common law).
    Common Law?
    FidoNet isn't governed by common law principles like precedent or jury of peers. It's a network of private systems, and when you are the moderator
    (and I am) of a specific echo, you are the authority
    -judge, jury, and, if need be, the hammer.

    Policy 4.20 establishes coordination structure - not democratic echo governance. When you were appointed (or assumed) moderation of the echo, and especially if you revived it from dormancy, your rules stand.
    Participants opt into that space knowing you're the one steering it.

    Bottom Line
    I am the law.

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Jun 1 22:20:27 2025
    Hello Gregory!

    Sunday June 01 2025 17:54, you wrote to me:

    I have carefully cataloged your interactions:
    You're welcome to read them every night before you go to sleep.

    - Directly questioning legitimacy without basis.
    - Accusing appointment as dictatorial.
    - Sarcastically comparing moderation changes to monarchic rule.
    - Openly attacking character as power-hungry.
    - Mocking official guidelines, trivializing community standards.
    - Explicitly defying moderation authority and refusing basic respect.
    All these I can do legally according to this echo's rules, as well as Fidonet policy.

    These behaviors are neither innocent nor acceptable.
    They're perfectly acceptable, name one rule which says otherwise.

    Understand clearly who you are dealing with I am the
    Network Coordinator (NC) of the entire state of New York
    I'm not in the state of NY, and you have no authority over me. So leave your pride to your New York downlinks. To me, you're a nobody from nowhere.

    My role demands respect
    Respect must be earned in the first place.

    Be assured, I do not play games when it comes to maintaining order
    Oh yes you do, you don't follow your own rules.

    I am non-sympathetic towards Ukraine
    In regards to Ukraine I will respond personally in NETMAIL.

    Take A Hike, Bozo.

    Alex

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Jun 1 22:46:51 2025
    Hello Gregory!

    Sunday June 01 2025 22:25, you wrote to me:

    Common Law?
    If I was attacked, I can respond. This is a common sense. PERIOD.

    I am the law.
    You are no one from nowhere to me.

    Alex

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Jun 1 23:26:43 2025
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Alex Galiyev <=-

    Ban 1:135/115 first for personal attacks, then I will respond to your message.

    Let me get this straight, you're actually making demands now?
    Only to offer your response? Did I get that right?

    First. You are out of line.
    Why? You don't come at me making demands (period)

    Second. Alex.. it doesn't work like that..

    Maybe, Just Maybe if you didn't come at me like a wrecking ball with
    your accusatory tone, and the rest of it. (Which is below for your
    review) - BTW Directly questioning legitimacy without basis.
    Accusing appointment as dictatorial.
    Sarcastically comparing moderation changes to monarchic rule.
    Openly attacking character as power-hungry.
    Mocking official guidelines, trivializing community standards.
    Using inflammatory language and accusing another participant of
    fascism. Explicitly defying moderation authority and refusing basic respect.

    You should see the couple of (threatening) netmails he sent me tonight. Perhaps I should post them publicly...

    I think we can skip the fidonet tribunal this time.
    Case closed.

    I think this loser should be banned from the echo.

    I will not be engaging with the whacko any further.



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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to Dan Clough on Mon Jun 2 01:02:58 2025
    Hello Dan!

    Sunday June 01 2025 23:26, you wrote to Gregory Deyss:

    I think this loser should be banned from the echo.
    I will not be engaging with the whacko any further.
    Go kiss your mother's behind (c) Arnold Schwarzenegger

    Alex

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to Dan Clough on Mon Jun 2 01:20:36 2025
    Hello Dan!

    Sunday June 01 2025 23:26, you wrote to Gregory Deyss:

    Ban 1:135/115 first for personal attacks, then I will respond to
    You have been officially removed from this echo.
    Don't even think about posting a single message here.

    REMEMBER: "The removal is final." (c) Gregory Deyss

    Alex

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Mon Jun 2 08:51:00 2025
    Oh, and fuck Ukraine also.

    It's about time somebody said it just like that!

    I thought this echo was "important" to you because vulgarity was against
    the rules? ;)


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