• The next deal

    From Joseph Pereira@1:124/5016 to All on Thu Mar 27 09:52:04 2025

    For Trump, international politics is just a matter of transactions. He sees politics as trade.

    The disadvantage of that approach is that Trump is actually thinking about the next deal in a very one-dimensional way.

    While a politician like Putin is thinking very strategically and is making many moves ahead. How does Trump ideally fit his next deal into Russia's long-term goal?

    Do you see the problem that arises here?

    The deal that Trump is advocating does not look beyond this first step. If the deal collapses, Trump will start all over again, while Putin will only move on to the next step in his larger plan.

    In any case, strategically, the US loses time and again in this way.

    You cannot run a country like a company. It is not about the next quarterly figures. It is about power, influence, long-term policy, indirect politics... things that you do not take into account in any business, short-term deal. The business deal only wants profit. Preferably in money. Otherwise it is nothing.

    The total incompetence of the current American government in the field of international politics is going to break the world up enormously.
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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to All on Fri Mar 28 07:46:45 2025
    Joseph Pereira wrote to All <=-

    The disadvantage of that approach is that Trump is actually thinking
    about the next deal in a very one-dimensional way.

    Ahhhh... Yet another Ignorant Elitist speaking on a topic he knows nothing about, yet is sure of his "superior" knowledge.

    *PLONK*


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JOSEPH PEREIRA on Fri Mar 28 09:57:00 2025
    For Trump, international politics is just a matter of transactions. He sees politics as trade.

    The disadvantage of that approach is that Trump is actually thinking about the
    next deal in a very one-dimensional way.

    While a politician like Putin is thinking very strategically and is making man
    moves ahead. How does Trump ideally fit his next deal into Russia's long-term goal?

    Do you see the problem that arises here?

    IMHO, this is an American problem that didn't just affect Trump. I am not
    sure about Obama, but I am pretty sure that Biden didn't think far enough
    ahead on many things, either, and I doubt Harris would have.

    As far as our politicians go, we are moving far away from them being our
    best and brightest. The folks who are our best and brightest are smart
    enough to stay out of politics.

    You cannot run a country like a company. It is not about the next quarterly figures. It is about power, influence, long-term policy, indirect politics... things that you do not take into account in any business, short-term deal. The
    business deal only wants profit. Preferably in money. Otherwise it is nothing.

    This is one place where I believe Biden (and most Presidents before) better understood than Trump does.

    The total incompetence of the current American government in the field of international politics is going to break the world up enormously.

    Here, I am back to my original point... it is not just the current administration that was failing here. While Biden and Obama were better to
    our allies, there were other things they either put in place, let fall apart, or just ignored that had disasterous results. For example, issues in Central America that Obama's SOS Hillary Clinton originally bragged about "fixing"
    by ingoring lead in large part to the migrant crisis that started later in Obama's administration and has only just started being fixed.

    That said, Trump 2016 seemed to know better than Trump 2024 when it came to international things. That is very disappointing.


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