Hi Ruth,

I seem to recall reading that you once used a Commodore 64 on Fidonet.
Do you remember whether the software "re-flowed" text for 40 columns?
It seems to me that the common recipe managers wrap at 80 columns.
For that matter, do you recall using a recipe manager on the C=64?

I'm thinking about spending some time in 8-bit computer emulators.
Not necessarily C=64, but many of them do have 40 column displays. Coincidentally, i read that Braille is normally 38 cells per line.

Catch you later,
-Ben
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Hi Ben,

I seem to recall reading that you once used a Commodore 64 on Fidonet.
Do you remember whether the software "re-flowed" text for 40 columns?
It seems to me that the common recipe managers wrap at 80 columns.

Yes, IIRC, we had a C=64 from 1984-1994, (maybe 1995). Got introduced to Fidonet in late January, 1994 and made the switch to PCs in April or May
of that year (or 95, possibly, long ago enough that I don't remember
exactly).

For that matter, do you recall using a recipe manager on the C=64?

I printed off a lot of recipies initially, then we got Meal Master.
We've still got a lot stored on that; Steve can get them somehow (I'm
not the computer geek; he is.) when needed.

I'm thinking about spending some time in 8-bit computer emulators.
Not necessarily C=64, but many of them do have 40 column displays. Coincidentally, i read that Braille is normally 38 cells per line.

Honestly, I couldn't tell you. I don't have the "computer smarts".

We had a breakfast at church before service this morning. Our fig tree
has been producing faster than Steve and I could eat them so I took some
and made oatmeal/fig muffins, finding the recipie on AllRecipies. I
subbed out whole wheat pastry flour for the all purpose called for, also
cane sugar for the white. Came home with 4 (of 24) and one of the ladies
took the copy of the recipie we'd brought.

Catch you later,

That has been my sign off since I started with Fido. (G)


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Re: 40 columns
By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Sun Aug 17 2025 17:11:39

Hi Ruth,

Yes, IIRC, we had a C=64 from 1984-1994, (maybe 1995). Got introduced to Fidonet in late January, 1994 and made the switch to PCs in April or May
of that year (or 95, possibly, long ago enough that I don't remember exactly).
Honestly, I couldn't tell you. I don't have the "computer smarts".

Thanks for answering. I'll have to try it for myself and see. On a lark,
i ran "MODE CO40" then "MM /C /NOCLOCK" and Meal-Master ran in 40 column
text mode, though not very well. I downloaded a few recipe managers to
try in an Apple II emulator when i find the time.

We had a breakfast at church before service this morning. Our fig tree
has been producing faster than Steve and I could eat them so I took some and made oatmeal/fig muffins, finding the recipie on AllRecipies. I
subbed out whole wheat pastry flour for the all purpose called for, also cane sugar for the white. Came home with 4 (of 24) and one of the ladies took the copy of the recipie we'd brought.

That sounds good! I would want to eat those muffins hot out of the oven.

I am house sitting for a friend who has a waffle iron. Fresh chopped figs would probably go into waffle batter very nicely. The first flush of figs
are done here. I should check whether the second flush is ripe yet.

That has been my sign off since I started with Fido. (G)

I did not mean to appropriate your sign off. A friend used to sign off
with the acronym TTYL, which sounds vaguely technical to me since TTY
also stands for teletype.
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Hi Ben,

Yes, IIRC, we had a C=64 from 1984-1994, (maybe 1995). Got introduced to Fidonet in late January, 1994 and made the switch to PCs in April or May
of that year (or 95, possibly, long ago enough that I don't remember exactly).
Honestly, I couldn't tell you. I don't have the "computer smarts".

Thanks for answering. I'll have to try it for myself and see. On a
lark, i ran "MODE CO40" then "MM /C /NOCLOCK" and Meal-Master ran in
40 column text mode, though not very well. I downloaded a few recipe managers to try in an Apple II emulator when i find the time.

Hopefully it will work for you. I use a computer, but don't understand
the inner workings of the thing. I think it's supposed to do something
that I tell it to do and get frustrated when it doesn't. Thankfully I'm
married to a computer guru/geek who keeps me (and the computer)
straight.

We had a breakfast at church before service this morning. Our fig tree
has been producing faster than Steve and I could eat them so I took some and made oatmeal/fig muffins, finding the recipie on AllRecipies. I
subbed out whole wheat pastry flour for the all purpose called for, also cane sugar for the white. Came home with 4 (of 24) and one of the ladies took the copy of the recipie we'd brought.

That sounds good! I would want to eat those muffins hot out of the
oven.

I didn't want to get up that early. (G) I've been battling bronchitis
and not sleeping well so if I have the chance to sleep a few extra
minutes, I'll take it. Speaking of taking, I've been taking antibiotics
since Monday afternoon; they're beginning to kick in.

I am house sitting for a friend who has a waffle iron. Fresh chopped
figs would probably go into waffle batter very nicely. The first
flush of figs are done here. I should check whether the second flush
is ripe yet.

Our tree is slowing down production. Tomorrow I'm going to make a pork tenderlion with figs and a balsamic glaze (found the recipe on
AllRecipies). It'll use some of what we have on hand, may make the rest
into some sort of syrup and freeze extras for winter enjoyment.

That has been my sign off since I started with Fido. (G)

I did not mean to appropriate your sign off. A friend used to sign
off with the acronym TTYL, which sounds vaguely technical to me since
TTY also stands for teletype.

No problem, just seemed a bit odd, seeing someone else use it. There's
also TTFN (ta,ta, for now) if you're British. (G)

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Ruth
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Re: 40 columns
By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Thu Aug 21 2025 13:59:55

Hi Ruth!

that I tell it to do and get frustrated when it doesn't. Thankfully I'm married to a computer guru/geek who keeps me (and the computer)
straight.

"It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it." (G)

I didn't want to get up that early. (G) I've been battling bronchitis
and not sleeping well so if I have the chance to sleep a few extra
minutes, I'll take it. Speaking of taking, I've been taking antibiotics since Monday afternoon; they're beginning to kick in.

Harsh! I hope you get past all that ASAP.

Some of my earliest jobs were night shift. I felt so driven those days,
that i would try to accomplish a full day's worth of my own stuff during
the daylight hours. Consequently i was perpetually sleep deprived and i
could fall asleep nearly any time and sleep through nearly anything. No
longer willing nor able to burn the candle at both ends like that.
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Hi Ben,

that I tell it to do and get frustrated when it doesn't. Thankfully I'm married to a computer guru/geek who keeps me (and the computer)
straight.

"It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it." (G)

Yes, he's been good about that. Right now he's trying to figure out how
to get something printed from the tablet. At one time I could do it but
then somebody, somewhere along the line, reconfigured something and I
can't any more.

I didn't want to get up that early. (G) I've been battling bronchitis
and not sleeping well so if I have the chance to sleep a few extra
minutes, I'll take it. Speaking of taking, I've been taking antibiotics since Monday afternoon; they're beginning to kick in.

Harsh! I hope you get past all that ASAP.

It's improving but I'm still not pushing things. One job at a time,
unless it's a multi tasking one like laundry. I've got the last (of 2)
loads in the dryer while typing this.

Some of my earliest jobs were night shift. I felt so driven those
days, that i would try to accomplish a full day's worth of my own
stuff during the daylight hours. Consequently i was perpetually sleep deprived and i could fall asleep nearly any time and sleep through
nearly anything. No longer willing nor able to burn the candle at
both ends like that.

I understand. When Steve got to his first duty station (Fort Hood) after
all of his initial training, one of his first assignments was a guard
shift, 3 days of day shift, then 3 of swing shift, and finally 3 of
graveyard. Thankfully that lasted only 3 weeks. Then, our first year in
Berlin, he worked 2 months of 6 day shifts, 2 days off and 6 days of
swings, followed by 2 days off. After that, it was a month straight of
mids. Stateside schools brought an end to that; when he was finished, he
went to straight day shifts, M-F.

I joined Fido/Cooking in late January, 1994. Pat Stockett was moderator
then and Sam Waring was in the echo. Had some real characters here,
including Wes Pitts and Jim Bodle (and more). Made some good friends
over the years and have had lots of good meals, both from recipies
grabbed from the echo and at picnics.

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Ruth
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