• Smoking was: Al K. Haul

    From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 4 10:22:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I almost bought a bargain-priced R2-D2 smoker - before reality set-in
    and I realised that I'd use it once or maybe twice then it would just occupy spasce on the patio,

    I understand. Our s can be used as grills also so they're most often
    used for that. When we got the egg shaped (not the name brand), Steve grilled a steak on it and pronounced it one of the best he'd ever
    grilled. We'll do pizza on that one also if we're not in a hurry.

    Dennis' boy gave us a big barrel charcoal grill with a smoke generator
    on one end. It's pretty much unused except when Stephan comes ver and
    cook up a "special occasion" meal. For myself, I've done very little
    smoke cooking - last thing waqs using a gas-fired grill and some grape
    vine cuttings. My favourite way to cook pizza is 217-787-5544. Hello, Antonio's. I'd like a large Belly Buster pleae" Bv)=

    Without getting off into an off-topic discussion of religion - wine is
    and has been an integral part of Western religion since before the
    late, great J. C.

    Definatly. IIRC, the southwestern native Americans fermented cactus
    juice.

    Or used peyote buds/flowers. Bv)=

    Agave cactus is the basis for tequila.

    It's not the real thing unless it has a worm in it, or so legend says.

    That's one of those things that has gotten mis-quoted/referenced over time.
    The wormis supposed to be related to mezcal - which is a first cousin to tequila. Both tequila and mezcal are made from cactus juice.

    Tequila is a distilled spirit made from blue Weber agave, a succulent
    that hails from arid regions in the Americas.

    Mezcal is a broad category of spirits made from roasted agave hearts
    commonly referred to as pi├▒as.

    Once, mezcal could be made anywhere in Mexico and from any type of
    maguey, or agave plant. In 1995, mezcal received DO status, and its
    production became more regulated.

    Here's a link to more than you ever wanted to know about the booze:

    https://www.foodandwine.com/tequila-vs-mezcal-differences-11731197

    I recently re-read on of the best books on religion and myth that ever
    saw the light of day - AFAIAC ... "Holy Blood - Holy Grail". Certainly explained a lot of the background to ..... whoops, getting off topic.

    Pick up a copy and see for yourself.

    Hmmmmmm, have to check it out. BTW, I'll be "off air" from Friday until probably next Wednesday. Making a quick trip to the Pacific, will check
    to see if our favorite hole in the wall Korean bbq place is still
    going. I know one seafood place on the North Shore still is, but our favorite one down in the city closed about 12 years ago.

    The think I liked most about this book is that it does not draw, nor
    suggest, conclusions. Just presents the facts as discovered - many of
    which were new to me and certainly cleared up some questions that I had.

    While raising fresh issues. Bv)= My favourite type of reading material
    --- something that makes you think.

    Here's my grapevine smoker recipe as published in Smoker Cooking

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Grapevine Smoked Chuck Roast
    Categories: Five, Beef, Bbq
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 lb Chuck roast
    Garlic powder
    Salt and Pepper
    Grapevines for smoke

    After pruning the family's Concord grape vines, I
    decided to use a few trimmings to make grapevine smoked
    chuck roast on my gas grill. I'd never used grapevines
    to smoke food before, so it was the perfect opportunity
    to experiment with this new smoking wood.

    I decided to use a chuck roast for two reasons. First,
    it was a relatively inexpensive cut of meat. If the
    grapevine smoke ruined the meat, the loss wouldn't be
    that great. And second, beef chuck contains quite a bit
    of fat and connective tissue, which adds to juiciness
    and flavor. And I like juice and flavor!

    Season the roast lightly on all sides w
  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 9 15:37:03 2025
    Hi Dave,

    I understand. Our s can be used as grills also so they're most often
    used for that. When we got the egg shaped (not the name brand), Steve grilled a steak on it and pronounced it one of the best he'd ever
    grilled. We'll do pizza on that one also if we're not in a hurry.

    Dennis' boy gave us a big barrel charcoal grill with a smoke generator
    on one end. It's pretty much unused except when Stephan comes ver and
    cook up a "special occasion" meal. For myself, I've done very little
    smoke cooking - last thing waqs using a gas-fired grill and some grape

    So when Stephan comes over, have several things ready to smoke so you
    can stock your freezer. Depending on the size of the grill and
    configuration of racks, you might be able to do a couple of racks of
    pork ribs, a couple of chickens and maybe a couple of bef roasts all at
    the same time.

    vine cuttings. My favourite way to cook pizza is 217-787-5544. Hello, Antonio's. I'd like a large Belly Buster pleae" Bv)=

    We've yet to find a store made pizza that is as good as our home made so
    will continue to make them. We've done flat bread and pitas as
    alternatives to the traditional crust sometimes, also pizza bread (toast
    bread, put sauce and toppings on, then bake in toaster oven) from time
    to time when we didn't want to go to the time/effort to do a trditional
    crust.


    Agave cactus is the basis for tequila.

    It's not the real thing unless it has a worm in it, or so legend says.

    That's one of those things that has gotten mis-quoted/referenced over time. The wormis supposed to be related to mezcal - which is a first cousin to tequila. Both tequila and mezcal are made from cactus juice.


    Here's a link to more than you ever wanted to know about the booze:

    https://www.foodandwine.com/tequila-vs-mezcal-differences-11731197

    I recently re-read on of the best books on religion and myth that ever
    saw the light of day - AFAIAC ... "Holy Blood - Holy Grail". Certainly explained a lot of the background to ..... whoops, getting off topic.

    Pick up a copy and see for yourself.

    Hmmmmmm, have to check it out. BTW, I'll be "off air" from Friday until probably next Wednesday. Making a quick trip to the Pacific, will check
    to see if our favorite hole in the wall Korean bbq place is still
    going. I know one seafood place on the North Shore still is, but our favorite one down in the city closed about 12 years ago.

    The think I liked most about this book is that it does not draw, nor suggest, conclusions. Just presents the facts as discovered - many of which were new to me and certainly cleared up some questions that I
    had.

    OK, I'm keeping this in as a reminder for when I get over the jet lag.
    Never did look for our favorite Korean spot as we had enough good eats otherwise. Also didn't have a lot of time as we were there such a short
    time.

    While raising fresh issues. Bv)= My favourite type of reading
    material --- something that makes you think.

    Here's my grapevine smoker recipe as published in Smoker Cooking


    Title: Grapevine Smoked Chuck Roast
    Categories: Five, Beef, Bbq
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I don't know what cut of meat he used but Steve smoked some for the
    chili he made for the church's chili cook off in February. IIRC, used
    hickory chips and 4 pieces of meat, cut up 3 for the chili and one is in
    our freezer (should pull it out now that the weather is hot) waiting to
    be enjoyed, probably with potato salad and some other side dish.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 11 06:47:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I understand. Our s can be used as grills also so they're most often
    used for that. When we got the egg shaped (not the name brand), Steve grilled a steak on it and pronounced it one of the best he'd ever
    grilled. We'll do pizza on that one also if we're not in a hurry.

    Dennis' boy gave us a big barrel charcoal grill with a smoke generator
    on one end. It's pretty much unused except when Stephan comes ver and
    cook up a "special occasion" meal. For myself, I've done very little
    smoke cooking - last thing waqs using a gas-fired grill and some grape

    So when Stephan comes over, have several things ready to smoke so you
    can stock your freezer. Depending on the size of the grill and configuration of racks, you might be able to do a couple of racks of
    pork ribs, a couple of chickens and maybe a couple of bef roasts all at the same time.

    Except my storage - both dry and refrigerated/frozen is stuffed to the
    nines. And I don't have room for another freezer even if I had the spare treasure to spend on it.

    vine cuttings. My favourite way to cook pizza is 217-787-5544. Hello, Antonio's. I'd like a large Belly Buster pleae" Bv)=

    We've yet to find a store made pizza that is as good as our home made
    so will continue to make them. We've done flat bread and pitas as alternatives to the traditional crust sometimes, also pizza bread
    (toast bread, put sauce and toppings on, then bake in toaster oven)
    from time to time when we didn't want to go to the time/effort to do a trditional crust.

    I have two - both locally owned. The Antonio's (local mini-chain) and a Springfield tradition that has recently re-opened for dine-is after the
    Co-Vid hoo-hah. Their EBA (everything but anchovies) is orgasmic.

    Those two win every local "Best of" competition put on by the local news papers. Pizza Hut, Dominos and Little Caesar can suck wind. Bv)-

    And, if course I can(and have done) make my own. But I'm getting lazy
    in my senescence.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    OK, I'm keeping this in as a reminder for when I get over the jet lag. Never did look for our favorite Korean spot as we had enough good eats otherwise. Also didn't have a lot of time as we were there such a short time.

    While raising fresh issues. Bv)= My favourite type of reading
    material --- something that makes you think.

    Here's my grapevine smoker recipe as published in Smoker Cooking


    Title: Grapevine Smoked Chuck Roast
    Categories: Five, Beef, Bbq
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I don't know what cut of meat he used but Steve smoked some for the
    chili he made for the church's chili cook off in February. IIRC, used hickory chips and 4 pieces of meat, cut up 3 for the chili and one is
    in our freezer (should pull it out now that the weather is hot) waiting
    to be enjoyed, probably with potato salad and some other side dish.

    I'm not a fan of smoke flavouring in chilli.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Whole Wheat Pizza
    Categories: Pizza, Vegetables, Cheese
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1 c Warm water (110º - 115º)
    1 tb Active dry yeast
    1 tb Honey
    1 c Whole wheat flour
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 tb Oil
    4 oz Cheddar cheese; grated
    1/2 ts Black pepper
    1/2 ts Caraway seeds
    1/4 ts Garlic powder
    1 1/4 c (to 1 1/2 c) whole wheat
    - flour
    1/2 c Tomato sauce
    +=OR=+
    1/2 c Jarred, pre-made pizza or
    - marinara sauce
    1/2 tb (to 1 tb) dried oregano
    1 c Raw broccoli pieces
    1 c Raw mushroom slices
    8 oz Mozzarella cheese; shredded

    Combine the water, yeast, honey and the 1 cup of whole
    wheat flour in a large bowl. Beat 100 times until
    mixture is smooth. Let rise in a warm place for 15
    minutes. Add the salt, oil, Cheddar cheese, pepper,
    caraway seeds, garlic powder and 1-1/4 to 1-1/2 ups
    whole wheat flour. Mix well and let the dough rest for
    5 minutes.

    Pat out the dough onto a baking sheet for 1 large
    pizza or divide the dough in half and make two
    medium-size pizzas.

    Top with the pizza sauce, oregano, vegetables and
    mozzarella. Bake in a 400ºF/205ºC oven for 15 to 20
    minutes.

    Serves 8

    Source: Holiday Cookbook, American Diabetes Assn.
    by Betty Wedman, M.S.,R.D.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jul 11 14:55:52 2025
    Hi Dave,

    Dennis' boy gave us a big barrel charcoal grill with a smoke generator
    on one end. It's pretty much unused except when Stephan comes ver and

    So when Stephan comes over, have several things ready to smoke so you
    can stock your freezer. Depending on the size of the grill and configuration of racks, you might be able to do a couple of racks of
    pork ribs, a couple of chickens and maybe a couple of bef roasts all at the same time.

    Except my storage - both dry and refrigerated/frozen is stuffed to the nines. And I don't have room for another freezer even if I had the
    spare treasure to spend on it.

    Sigh! Good thought but if the room isn't there, then you can't do it. I
    had to re-arriange the upright freezer earlier today to fit in a small
    cookie sheet of blueberries. Once they're frozen and bagged, another
    sheet full will go in so we'll have local blueberries (we know the
    grower) this winter.

    vine cuttings. My favourite way to cook pizza is 217-787-5544. Hello, Antonio's. I'd like a large Belly Buster pleae" Bv)=

    We've yet to find a store made pizza that is as good as our home made
    so will continue to make them. We've done flat bread and pitas as alternatives to the traditional crust sometimes, also pizza bread
    (toast bread, put sauce and toppings on, then bake in toaster oven)
    from time to time when we didn't want to go to the time/effort to do a trditional crust.

    I have two - both locally owned. The Antonio's (local mini-chain) and
    a Springfield tradition that has recently re-opened for dine-is after
    the Co-Vid hoo-hah. Their EBA (everything but anchovies) is orgasmic.

    Sounds good. We did a round flatbread pizza for lunch today. Besides the cheeses (provelone, parmesan and romano) it just had pepperoni (Italian,
    bought at our favorite Rochester area Italian store).

    Those two win every local "Best of" competition put on by the local
    news papers. Pizza Hut, Dominos and Little Caesar can suck wind. Bv)-

    Chains don't always do the best pizza. Steve got a small pizza in one of
    our layovers; it was good but I only had one piece (didn't want a lot of
    food as jet lag was hitting hard). I don't know who made it but I'd go
    for it again.

    And, if course I can(and have done) make my own. But I'm getting lazy
    in my senescence.

    I think we're all slowing down; I don't make our bread any more.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    OK, I'm keeping this in as a reminder for when I get over the jet lag. Never did look for our favorite Korean spot as we had enough good eats otherwise. Also didn't have a lot of time as we were there such a short time.

    While raising fresh issues. Bv)= My favourite type of reading
    material --- something that makes you think.

    Here's my grapevine smoker recipe as published in Smoker Cooking


    Title: Grapevine Smoked Chuck Roast
    Categories: Five, Beef, Bbq
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I don't know what cut of meat he used but Steve smoked some for the
    chili he made for the church's chili cook off in February. IIRC, used hickory chips and 4 pieces of meat, cut up 3 for the chili and one is
    in our freezer (should pull it out now that the weather is hot) waiting
    to be enjoyed, probably with potato salad and some other side dish.

    I'm not a fan of smoke flavouring in chilli.

    I couldn't taste the smoke but you might be able to pick up on it. Worst
    chili we ever had tasted like somebody dropped a lit cigarette into
    it--it was horrible! Somebody brought it to our church in Massachusetts
    as an entry in a chili cook off.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:320/219 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jul 13 11:14:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Except my storage - both dry and refrigerated/frozen is stuffed to the nines. And I don't have room for another freezer even if I had the
    spare treasure to spend on it.

    Sigh! Good thought but if the room isn't there, then you can't do it. I had to re-arriange the upright freezer earlier today to fit in a small cookie sheet of blueberries. Once they're frozen and bagged, another
    sheet full will go in so we'll have local blueberries (we know the
    grower) this winter.

    I've picked up another upright freezer for the kitchen. It will replace
    the current non-self defrosting unit. That dandy will either go to the
    patio or garage for long-term stuff.

    We've yet to find a store made pizza that is as good as our home made
    so will continue to make them. We've done flat bread and pitas as alternatives to the traditional crust sometimes, also pizza bread
    (toast bread, put sauce and toppings on, then bake in toaster oven)
    from time to time when we didn't want to go to the time/effort to do a trditional crust.

    I have two - both locally owned. The Antonio's (local mini-chain) and
    a Springfield tradition that has recently re-opened for dine-is after
    the Co-Vid hoo-hah. Their EBA (everything but anchovies) is orgasmic.

    Sounds good. We did a round flatbread pizza for lunch today. Besides
    the cheeses (provelone, parmesan and romano) it just had pepperoni (Italian, bought at our favorite Rochester area Italian store).

    Those two win every local "Best of" competition put on by the local
    news papers. Pizza Hut, Dominos and Little Caesar can suck wind. Bv)-

    Chains don't always do the best pizza. Steve got a small pizza in one
    of our layovers; it was good but I only had one piece (didn't want a
    lot of food as jet lag was hitting hard). I don't know who made it but
    I'd go for it again.

    Oddly, one of the best "chain" places is a gas/c-store outfit called
    Casey's. For store-bought, take-out pizza they are pretty decent.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Pepperoni Pizza Casserole
    Categories: Pasta, Beef, Vegetables, Cheese, Sauces
    Yield: 2 Casseroles

    2 lb Coarse ground beef
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    3 1/2 c Spaghetti sauce; 28 oz jar
    16 oz Spiral or cavatappi pasta;
    - cooked, drained
    4 c Shredded mozzarella cheese
    8 oz Thick sliced pepperoni;
    - chopped
    Grated or shredded Parmesan
    - to pass at table

    Set oven @ 350┬║F/175┬║C.

    In a large skillet, cook beef and onion over medium heat
    until meat is no longer pink; drain. Stir in spaghetti
    sauce and pasta.

    Transfer to 2 greased 13" X 9" baking dishes. Sprinkle
    with cheese. Arrange pepperoni over the top.

    Bake, uncovered, 25-30 minutes or until heated through.
    And cheewse is beginning to brown.

    UDD NOTES: Some diced bell pepper goes well in this.
    When I make this I plan to freeze one of the dishes
    for later. When using - thaw first, then into a 350┬║F/
    175┬║C oven until heated through as per directions.

    Nancy Scarlett, Graham, North Carolina

    Makes: 2 casseroles (10 servings each)

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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