Hi Ben,

... we donated several net books,
note books and other small computers to a local drive--helped clean out some of our unused stuff. Steve put a basic internet program on each of them before donating.

How cool is that! I like reading about old equipment being put to
use.

And it cleared some unused but still good stuff out of our house. Last
night I heard Steve talking about Commodore 64 computers with someone on
line. We had one for 10 years, rehomed it about 4 years after we
upgraded to PCs and had orders to move. We had to make a weight
allowance so rehoming anything like that, that was not being used,
helped us meet it. Anyway, Steve and the other guy were commiserating
with each other about getting rid of the C-64, sort of wishing they
still had them. I don't know if we still have the emulator program that
we had at one time.

That's known by different names, Jack's Wax is the name I learned for
it. You have to boil the syrup down to a concentrate for it to work. One
of my friends in college made it one year; I think she boiled the syrup down to maybe a third of what she started out with--IOW, a gallon was boiled into just a bit over a quart.

Thanks! I'll file that away in my memory banks for later.

For the next time you get significant (clean) snow and have maple syrup
on hand? We had 1.25" of snow last week, not enough to harvest. Enough
to shut down the area for a couple of days tho. (G)

Sometimes you feel like a nut...

Hey i remember watching that jingle on broadcast TV when i was a
kid...

I remember it too. We got our first TV when I was in 4th grade, only one channel. A few years later my dad reworked the lead in (no antenna, just
a wire from the main line) wire and we got 2 channels. When I came home
from college for Easter break, my folks had tied into the NYC cable,
with one local channel. IIRC, the ads for Almond Joy and Mounds were in
the days when we got just 2 channels.

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Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Thu Jan 30 2025 13:39:58

And it cleared some unused but still good stuff out of our house. Last night I heard Steve talking about Commodore 64 computers with someone on line. We had one for 10 years, rehomed it about 4 years after we
upgraded to PCs and had orders to move. We had to make a weight
allowance so rehoming anything like that, that was not being used,
helped us meet it. Anyway, Steve and the other guy were commiserating
with each other about getting rid of the C-64, sort of wishing they
still had them. I don't know if we still have the emulator program that
we had at one time.

I know an online musician who runs special software to operate the C=64 as
a synthesizer. You can see screenshots in the first few pages of the user manuals.

<https://mssiah.com/files/MSSIAH_MonoSynthesizer.pdf>

<https://mssiah.com/files/MSSIAH_Bassline.pdf>

If i were going to emulate a C=64, i'd probably go with VICE.

<https://vice-emu.sourceforge.io/>

I remember loading arcade games from cassette tape onto a VIC-20. I also remember two friends playing games on a C=64, and i didn't get as much
screen time on the C=64 as on the VIC-20. One friend had a floppy drive
and the other was using cassette tape only. But he was given a HUGE set
of cassette tapes. Whoever owned that C=64 before him collected a lot!

For the next time you get significant (clean) snow and have maple syrup
on hand? We had 1.25" of snow last week, not enough to harvest. Enough
to shut down the area for a couple of days tho. (G)

Exactly. So far this winter we had a dusting of snow one day. I happened
to bicycle through it to a dentist appointment. Sadly for that dentist's business there was not enough snow to make candy in.

I remember it too. We got our first TV when I was in 4th grade, only one channel. A few years later my dad reworked the lead in (no antenna, just
a wire from the main line) wire and we got 2 channels. When I came home from college for Easter break, my folks had tied into the NYC cable,
with one local channel. IIRC, the ads for Almond Joy and Mounds were in
the days when we got just 2 channels.

When i was a kid, my parents went without a TV because they thought it was
a bad influence. But we brought a TV in the house for that VIC-20, and
slowly began to use it as a TV too. I personally think it was good for me
to have had limited exposure to media, but i didn't see it that way when i
was a kid. :-)

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Title: TV Cookies
Categories: Cookies
Yield: 1 Batch

1 c Shortening
1 c Sugar
1 c Brown sugar
2 Eggs; beaten
1 ts Vanilla
2 c Flour; sifted
1 ts Soda
1/2 ts Baking powder
1/2 ts Salt
2 c Quick oatmeal
2 c Rice Krispies
1 c Coconut
1/2 c Nuts

Cream together shortening and sugars. Add eggs, vanilla, flour, soda,
baking powder, and salt. Add cereals, coconut, and nuts. Blend and
drop by spoonfuls on cookie sheet and bake at 350°F.

Recipe by Randy Rigg

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Hi Ben,

And it cleared some unused but still good stuff out of our house. Last night I heard Steve talking about Commodore 64 computers with someone on line. We had one for 10 years, rehomed it about 4 years after we
upgraded to PCs and had orders to move. We had to make a weight
allowance so rehoming anything like that, that was not being used,
helped us meet it. Anyway, Steve and the other guy were commiserating
with each other about getting rid of the C-64, sort of wishing they
still had them. I don't know if we still have the emulator program that
we had at one time.

I know an online musician who runs special software to operate the
C=64 as a synthesizer. You can see screenshots in the first few pages
of the user manuals.

Still some life left in the old system. Back around 1985 my parents were visiting us at Fort Hood, TX. Dad had started a computer based services (bookkeeping, payroll, etc) business the year before. I know he was
using Tandy products, don't remember what one at the time but he'd
started around 1979 with a TS-80. He was quite impressed with what the
C-64 could do--but not enough to go out and buy one.

If i were going to emulate a C=64, i'd probably go with VICE.

<https://vice-emu.sourceforge.io/>

I've no idea what Steve uses as I do nothing that requires a C-64 or
emulator.

I remember loading arcade games from cassette tape onto a VIC-20. I
also remember two friends playing games on a C=64, and i didn't get as much
screen time on the C=64 as on the VIC-20. One friend had a floppy
drive and the other was using cassette tape only. But he was given a
HUGE set of cassette tapes. Whoever owned that C=64 before him
collected a lot!

Steve started out with the datasette, typing in programs from "Compute's Gazette" and other magazines. It was a cost saver, an Army SPC4 pay
meant we still had to watch our spending. The computer (and a microwave
oven) came from our tax refunds. After a 3 month temporary duty (TDY) in Germany in early 1985, he was able to buy the floppy drive. IIRC, he
bought his first monitor about that time, after starting out using our
one and only tv.

For the next time you get significant (clean) snow and have maple

syrup RH> on hand? We had 1.25" of snow last week, not enough to
harvest. Enough RH> to shut down the area for a couple of days tho. (G)

Exactly. So far this winter we had a dusting of snow one day. I
happened to bicycle through it to a dentist appointment. Sadly for
that dentist's business there was not enough snow to make candy in.

We're in the beginning days of a warm spell (60s and low 70s) but it
looks like it'll be cooling off again in about 10 days. Not enough for
snow before my next dental visit tho, can't make Jack's Wax to "gum up"
my teeth before seeing him.

I remember it too. We got our first TV when I was in 4th grade, only

one RH> channel. A few years later my dad reworked the lead in (no
antenna, just RH> a wire from the main line) wire and we got 2 channels.
When I came home RH> from college for Easter break, my folks had tied
into the NYC cable, RH> with one local channel. IIRC, the ads for Almond
Joy and Mounds were in RH> the days when we got just 2 channels.

When i was a kid, my parents went without a TV because they thought it
was a bad influence. But we brought a TV in the house for that
VIC-20, and slowly began to use it as a TV too. I personally think it
was good for me to have had limited exposure to media, but i didn't
see it that way when i was a kid. :-)

My parents had one the first year we were married, then gave it to my
mom's family when they (mom & dad) moved to an area where they couldn't
get any sort of reception. That was the set they (grandparents) gave
back to us when they got their first color set. It was only black and
white but I can remember seeing ads for Shake and Bake, M&Ms (plain,
peanut and almond [!]), Almond Joy (and Mounds), etc as well as the ad
for Alka-Seltzer, featuring people poking other's bellies, with the tag
line "no matter what shape your stomach is in, Alka Seltzer will make it
feel better" (not sure on the last phrase).

Title: TV Cookies
Categories: Cookies
Yield: 1 Batch

Would be interesting to know the origin of that name.

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Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Sat Feb 01 2025 13:32:27

visiting us at Fort Hood, TX. Dad had started a computer based services (bookkeeping, payroll, etc) business the year before. I know he was
using Tandy products, don't remember what one at the time but he'd
started around 1979 with a TS-80.

I remember using a TRS-80 in my school library. By that time it was the
lowest spec'ed computer in the entire school. I guess i was into retro
from the get-go.

Would be interesting to know the origin of that name.

Unfortunately my search-fu was not strong enough to discover the origin
of this recipe, although i can write that it was posted by Randy Rigg in December, 1995.

On the topic of kitchen equipment motherboard repair, here is a post
about burning alcohol to fix an iBook back in 2007.

<http://www.geektechnique.org/projectlab/726/ diy-obsolete-ibook-logic-board-repair.html>

And an obligatory radio recipe...

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Title: Steamed Apricot Pudding
Categories: Puddings
Yield: 1 Pudding

1/2 lb Dried apricots
1 1/2 c Soft wheat flour; sifted
1/4 c Butter or other fat
1/2 c Sugar
2 Eggs
2 ts Baking powder
1/4 ts Salt
1/2 c Milk

Wash the apricots, chop fine, and mix with 2 tb of the flour. Sift the
remaining flour with the baking powder and salt. Cream the fat, add
the sugar, and well-beaten eggs, and add alternately with the milk to
the sifted dry ingredients. Stir in the apricots. Pour into a greased
mold, cover, and steam for 2 hours. Serve hot with hard sauce.

Recipe by Aunt Sammy's Radio Recipes 1931

Recipe FROM: <https://archive.org/details/auntsammysradior1931unit>

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Ruth Haffly wrote to Ben Collver <=-

A more appropriate one around our house would be Ham and Chips. (G)

Q: What do you call a drunk amateur radio operator?
A: Ham on rye.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Crockpot Chicken and Noodles
Categories: Crockpot, Chicken, Main dishes
Yield: 1 Servings

2 Stalks celery; cut up
2 Carrots; cut up
1 lg Onion; sliced
2 ts Salt
1/2 ts Pepper
1 ts Dried basil
4 c Uncooked noodles
1 Chicken; cut up

Place the veggies on the bottom of the pot, put the chicken on
top, followed by the seasonings. Pour 3 cups of water over. Set it
on low and cook for 8-10 hrs. Take chicken out (carefully, because
it will come off the bones) and put noodles in the broth, turning it
up to high. Let the noodles cook for 45 min., while you take the meat
off the bones. Mix the me in. This is like a very thick chicken soup
and the basil makes this delicious!

Posted to Master Cook Recipes List, Digest #110

Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 01:03:07 -0400

From: Lestat6663@aol.com

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Hi Ben,

Hi Ruth,

It was the latest and greatest when it came out. Complete with a
game--how many kids played Pong for hours on end with the family
computer?

I remember seeing an electronic Pong machine at a yard sale. They had
it hooked up to a TV, so i played it with a friend. So i can write
that i actually experienced that bit of history.

We played it a couple of times at my parent's house. I think our
daughters all time favorites were "Cave of the Word Wizard" (a spelling
game) and "Where in the World is Carmen San Diego". Both of these were
for the C-64; the sound effects on the Word Wizard were really
outstanding.

We've never had an iBook. Our first PCs were ones Steve cobbled together from various places--

I've built my share of Frankenpooters. The best thing is getting a
highly functional computer for a low cost. The worst thing i remember
off the cuff is using OEM motherboards with non-standard, cost-cutting design decisions and limited availability of documentation and
drivers.

A more appropriate one around our house would be Ham and Chips. (G)

Alas, my personal recipe collection doesn't include Ham and Chips.

Here's a recipe for Granola Pie, which strikes me as ecclectic.

Title: Granola Pie
Categories: Pies
Yield: 1 Pie

I'd have to sub something else for the brandy. However, the crust would
be really good for something like a pecan pie; I'll have to keep it in
mind next time I make one.

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Ruth
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Hi Sean,

A more appropriate one around our house would be Ham and Chips. (G)

Q: What do you call a drunk amateur radio operator?
A: Ham on rye.

That wouldn't happen at our house. We have a small amount (Maybe one
pint) of boxed red and white to use in cooking. Last time I made beef
stew, I put in a couple of "glugs" of red--didm't taste it in the stew
but it added a nice flavor. Usually I add just one "glug"; this time it
came out a bit faster and I got 2. (G)

BTW, when you referred to tthe University of Arizona to Ben, did you
mean Tucson?

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Ruth
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Hi Ben,

visiting us at Fort Hood, TX. Dad had started a computer based services (bookkeeping, payroll, etc) business the year before. I know he was
using Tandy products, don't remember what one at the time but he'd
started around 1979 with a TS-80.

I remember using a TRS-80 in my school library. By that time it was
the lowest spec'ed computer in the entire school. I guess i was into retro from the get-go.

It was the latest and greatest when it came out. Complete with a
game--how many kids played Pong for hours on end with the family
computer?

Would be interesting to know the origin of that name.

Unfortunately my search-fu was not strong enough to discover the
origin of this recipe, although i can write that it was posted by
Randy Rigg in December, 1995.

Randy posted a lot of recipies back then. A good number of them were of
the 5 ingredient or less, not counting things like salt and pepper,
type.

On the topic of kitchen equipment motherboard repair, here is a post
about burning alcohol to fix an iBook back in 2007.

<http://www.geektechnique.org/projectlab/726/ diy-obsolete-ibook-logic-board-repair.html>

We've never had an iBook. Our first PCs were ones Steve cobbled together
from various places--got a phone survey once asking about home
computers. When I said we had one, the next question was--"who made it"?
I said that the CPU was from X (forgot the various manufactorers),
keyboard was from Y, printer from Z and monitor was A. Threw that
surveryor for a good loop! (G)

And an obligatory radio recipe...

Title: Steamed Apricot Pudding
Categories: Puddings
Yield: 1 Pudding

A more appropriate one around our house would be Ham and Chips. (G)

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... Mind... Mind... Let's see, I had one of those around here someplace.

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Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Mon Feb 03 2025 15:53:31

Hi Ruth,

It was the latest and greatest when it came out. Complete with a
game--how many kids played Pong for hours on end with the family
computer?

I remember seeing an electronic Pong machine at a yard sale. They had it hooked up to a TV, so i played it with a friend. So i can write that i
actually experienced that bit of history.

We've never had an iBook. Our first PCs were ones Steve cobbled together from various places--

I've built my share of Frankenpooters. The best thing is getting a highly functional computer for a low cost. The worst thing i remember off the cuff
is using OEM motherboards with non-standard, cost-cutting design decisions
and limited availability of documentation and drivers.

A more appropriate one around our house would be Ham and Chips. (G)

Alas, my personal recipe collection doesn't include Ham and Chips.

Here's a recipe for Granola Pie, which strikes me as ecclectic.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Granola Pie
Categories: Pies
Yield: 1 Pie

Granola Pastry *

MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
1 c Dark corn syrup
1/2 c Sugar
1/4 c Brandy
1/4 c Butter; melted
3 Eggs
1 ts Vanilla
1/4 ts Salt
2 c Granola
Sweetened whipped cream

Granola Pastry:

Use your normal recipe for one 9" pie crust, except stir in 1/2 c
crushed granola before adding liquid ingredients.

Granola Pie:

Heat oven to 375°F. Prepare granola pastry. Beat corn syrup, sugar,
brandy, butter, eggs, vanilla, and salt with hand beater. Stir in
granola. Pour into pastry-lined pie plate. Cover edge with a 2 to 3"
strip of aluminum foil to prevent excessive browning; remove foil
during last 10 minutes of baking. Bake until set, 40 to 45 minutes.
Serve with sweetened whipped cream.

Recipe by Betty Crocker granola recipe pamphlet, 1981

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