Hi EC

My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match my system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password, and Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a few other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these things up.

If you remember correctly, I am running webv4 off of my other website, and you and I worked to get it so it worked fine by changing a few things in modopts.ini. But at that time, you said all the modules may not function correctly, and this is the only one I've found that is giving issues. What do we need to do to get the register feature working correctly.

If you want to check it out, go to my webpage "valhallabbs.com", and click on the Synchronet Icon. Thanks in advance

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On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 15:51:54 -0500
"DesotoFireflite" <desotofireflite@VERT/VALHALLA> wrote:

Hi EC

My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works
fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match my
system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password, and
Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a few
other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these
things up.

Do people really give their details up? I guess these days it's easy
enough to look someone up on the internet, and before the times of
email for verification, there had to an alternate way. I feel the days
of collecting true, authentic user information is in the past.
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Re: Re: ecwebv4
By: Nelgin to DesotoFireflite on Sat Jan 29 2022 09:15 pm

My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works
fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match my system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password, and Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a few
other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these
things up.

Do people really give their details up? I guess these days it's easy
enough to look someone up on the internet, and before the times of
email for verification, there had to an alternate way. I feel the days
of collecting true, authentic user information is in the past.

i dont know why any sysop would want someone's real birthdate or street address.

unless they are on some power trip.
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Re: ecwebv4
By: DesotoFireflite to echicken on Sat Jan 29 2022 15:51:54

My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match my system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password, and Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a few other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these things up.

It's meant to respect the new user questions you've specified via SCFG. (And this worked the last time I checked.) Required fields should show up with an asterisk or something beside them, and the form shouldn't submit without them being filled out.

If you remember correctly, I am running webv4 off of my other website, and you and I worked to get it so it worked fine by changing a few things in modopts.ini. But at that time, you said all the modules may not function

Sounds familiar, but I don't remember the details. Can you remind me what changes you made to modopts.ini?

Does your webv4 installation have a lib/locale/en_us.ini file, and in that file is there a [page_register] section, and in that section is there a 'stat_suffix_field_required' entry? If so, what does it say?

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Re: Re: ecwebv4
By: Nelgin to DesotoFireflite on Sat Jan 29 2022 09:15 pm

My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works
fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match my
system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password, and
Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a few
other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these
things up.

Do people really give their details up? I guess these days it's easy enough to look someone up on the internet, and before the times of
email for verification, there had to an alternate way. I feel the days
of collecting true, authentic user information is in the past.

Actually yes, I lose some users because of it, but for the most part most will fill in the info requested. Maybe it's because I've been around so long...LOL.
Now, is the info honest, that's the million dollor question.

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Re: ecwebv4
By: echicken to DesotoFireflite on Sun Jan 30 2022 05:08 am

My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works
fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match
my system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password,
and Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a
few other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these
things up.

It's meant to respect the new user questions you've specified via SCFG. (And this worked the last time I checked.) Required fields should show up with an asterisk or something beside them, and the form shouldn't submit without them being filled out.

Yes, I understand that, but the asterisk is only showing up on the Name Field, and the Password Fields, and EMail Address Fields, none of the others, yet in SCFG, most are required for new users.

If you remember correctly, I am running webv4 off of my other
website, and you and I worked to get it so it worked fine by
changing a few things in modopts.ini. But at that time, you said all
the modules may not function

whatchanges you made to modopts.ini?

modopts.ini..Not sure if we made changes to modopts.ini, but if we did
I believe these were it...it's been awhile

brand_link = http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/
web_directory=../webv4

sbbs.ini
[Web]Web (HTTP) Server
RootDirectory = ../web/root

my index.html pointing to webv4
http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/webv4

in the web/root directory, we added a webv4 directory and put webv4 root directory there, containing the api, bootstrap, css, error, immages directories, and the index.xjs and index.xjs.ssjs files. Then we added the webv4 other directories under sbbs/webv4 containing the following directories components, lib, pages, and sidebar.

It's all been working fineit registers people fine, but it's only req name, password and email, all other fields can be blank. why is it not seeing the other required fields from scfg. sorry for repeating myself.

Does your webv4 installation have a lib/locale/en_us.ini file, and in that file is there a [page_register] section, and in that section is there a 'stat_suffix_field_required' entry? If so, what does it say?

Yes it's there
stat_suffix_field_required = required

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Come Play Trade Wars On Valhalla's T.W.G.S!

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Re: Re: ecwebv4
By: DesotoFireflite to Nelgin on Sun Jan 30 2022 09:06 am

email for verification, there had to an alternate way. I feel the days of collecting true, authentic user information is in the past.

Actually yes, I lose some users because of it, but for the most part most will fill in the info requested. Maybe it's because I've been around so long...LOL. Now, is the info honest, that's the million dollor question.

why do you even want that info? what if your system is compromised and their data is stolen? they can sue you no matter what disclaimer you put up.

i don't want anybody's personal information. i ask for birthdate but that's just something i havent switched off. i'd rather just ask 'age' because i'm curious about my user demographics.

i recommend that you pare down your user questions.
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Re: ecwebv4
By: DesotoFireflite to echicken on Sun Jan 30 2022 09:53:53

modopts.ini..Not sure if we made changes to modopts.ini, but if we did
I believe these were it...it's been awhile

brand_link = http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/
web_directory=../webv4

sbbs.ini
[Web]Web (HTTP) Server
RootDirectory = ../web/root

my index.html pointing to webv4
http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/webv4

Thanks - none of this should affect newuser questions.

Yes it's there
stat_suffix_field_required = required

I have no idea why I made that customizable, but there was probably a reason. That's good then.

I think this may just be down to a typo. Could you try the following for me and let me know if it helps?

1) Create a webv4/mods/ directory (if not already present)

2) Create a webv4/mods/pages/ directory (if not already present)

3) Copy webv4/pages/000-register.xjs to webv4/mods/pages/

4) Edit lines 16 and 20 of webv4/mods/pages/000-register.xjs, replacing 'system.new_user_questions' with 'system.newuser_questions'

5) Save the file, see if your reg page is fixed

If it does work, you can leave the copy of 000-register.xjs in place for the time being, and I'll put the fix in the git repo soon.

Thanks,

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On 01-30-22 09:06, DesotoFireflite wrote to Nelgin <=-

Actually yes, I lose some users because of it, but for the most part
most will fill in the info requested. Maybe it's because I've been
around so long...LOL. Now, is the info honest, that's the million
dollor question.

I agree with MRO on this, ask yourself do you really need to collect all of the information? I took a number of the new user questions out, because I really don't need the info. And these days, it's best not to collect information you're not planning to use.


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Re: Re: ecwebv4
By: MRO to DesotoFireflite on Sun Jan 30 2022 04:42 pm

email for verification, there had to an alternate way. I feel the
days of collecting true, authentic user information is in the
past.

Actually yes, I lose some users because of it, but for the most part
most will fill in the info requested. Maybe it's because I've been
around so long...LOL. Now, is the info honest, that's the million
dollor question.

why do you even want that info? what if your system is compromised and their data is stolen? they can sue you no matter what disclaimer you put up.

Well, I just want complete info. I want the City and State because I want to know where callers are from, and it leaves a blank spot in my last ten callers list, and I want the Age for my adult section, and the rest is for demographics.

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Re: ecwebv4
By: echicken to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 2022 04:48 am

I think this may just be down to a typo. Could you try the following for me and let me know if it helps?

1) Create a webv4/mods/ directory (if not already present)

2) Create a webv4/mods/pages/ directory (if not already present)

3) Copy webv4/pages/000-register.xjs to webv4/mods/pages/

4) Edit lines 16 and 20 of webv4/mods/pages/000-register.xjs, replacing 'system.new_user_questions' with 'system.newuser_questions'

5) Save the file, see if your reg page is fixed

If it does work, you can leave the copy of 000-register.xjs in place for the time being, and I'll put the fix in the git repo soon.

Worked like a charm, Thanks EC, now that it's fixed, I can turn off a few of the requirements I don't need. Again thanks for solving the problem.

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Re: Re: ecwebv4
By: Vk3jed to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 2022 03:21 pm

Actually yes, I lose some users because of it, but for the most part
most will fill in the info requested. Maybe it's because I've been
around so long...LOL. Now, is the info honest, that's the million
dollor question.

I agree with MRO on this, ask yourself do you really need to collect all of the information? I took a number of the new user questions out, because I really don't need the info. And these days, it's best not to collect information you're not planning to use.

Yes, I'm planning on trimming down the required questions to what I really want and need. I still want the city and state, age, alias, real Name, and email and password, the rest I don't really care about. Now that EC solved the issue, I can get things squared up.



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Re: ecwebv4
By: DesotoFireflite to echicken on Mon Jan 31 2022 08:29:42

Worked like a charm, Thanks EC, now that it's fixed, I can turn off a few of the requirements I don't need. Again thanks for solving the problem.

Thanks for doing the legwork - I didn't have the energy to test it last night.

Hang on to your modified copy of 000-register.xjs for now, but you'll want to remove it after I've fixed the official one and you've updated. (I'll try to remember to remind you of that when the time comes.)

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Re: ecwebv4
By: echicken to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 2022 02:00 pm

Re: ecwebv4
By: DesotoFireflite to echicken on Mon Jan 31 2022 08:29:42

Worked like a charm, Thanks EC, now that it's fixed, I can turn off
a few of the requirements I don't need. Again thanks for solving the
problem.

Thanks for doing the legwork - I didn't have the energy to test it last night.

I understand compleatly, at 70 most of my energy has long gone :)

Hang on to your modified copy of 000-register.xjs for now, but you'll want to remove it after I've fixed the official one and you've updated. (I'll try to remember to remind you of that when the time comes.)

Thanks.

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Re: Re: ecwebv4
By: DesotoFireflite to MRO on Mon Jan 31 2022 08:16 am

why do you even want that info? what if your system is compromised and their data is stolen? they can sue you no matter what disclaimer you put up.

Well, I just want complete info. I want the City and State because I want to know where callers are from, and it leaves a blank spot in my last ten callers list, and I want the Age for my adult section, and the rest is for demographics.

what good is their address to you? why should you have their address?
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Re: Re: ecwebv4
By: DesotoFireflite to MRO on Mon Jan 31 2022 08:16 am

why do you even want that info? what if your system is compromised
and their data is stolen? they can sue you no matter what disclaimer
you put up.

Well, I just want complete info. I want the City and State because I want to know where callers are from, and it leaves a blank spot in my last ten callers list, and I want the Age for my adult section, and the rest is for demographics.

I don't really see a need to ask users for things like their address or phone number. I could see those things possibly being useful if you're running a BBS with adult content and want to do your due dilligence to verify user age etc.. but for the most part, I don't think that information is really necessary.

Nightfox

Re: Re: ecwebv4
By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 2022 11:19 am

why do you even want that info? what if your system is compromised
and their data is stolen? they can sue you no matter what
disclaimer you put up.

Well, I just want complete info. I want the City and State because
I want to know where callers are from, and it leaves a blank spot
in my last ten callers list, and I want the Age for my adult
section, and the rest is for demographics.

I don't really see a need to ask users for things like their address or phone number. I could see those things possibly being useful if you're running a BBS with adult content and want to do your due dilligence to verify user age etc.. but for the most part, I don't think that information is really necessary.

I guess I don't, but I'm from the old school of BBSing, and I guess It's a hard habit to break. I guess it's not really needed. At least it's working now, and I can decide. I just perfer to run my system the old way.

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Re: Re: ecwebv4
By: DesotoFireflite to Nightfox on Mon Jan 31 2022 02:53 pm

I don't really see a need to ask users for things like their
address or phone number. I could see those things possibly being
useful if you're running a BBS with adult content and want to do
your due dilligence to verify user age etc.. but for the most
part, I don't think that information is really necessary.

I guess I don't, but I'm from the old school of BBSing, and I guess It's a hard habit to break. I guess it's not really needed. At least it's working now, and I can decide. I just perfer to run my system the old way.

I ran a BBS from 1994 to 2000, and I don't think I had my BBS ask for users' addresses back then. Only their phone number, since I used a callback verifier at the time.

When I saw a BBS ask for a mailing address, I think it was often for BBSes with adult content where they might want to contact you for verification of your age.

Nightfox

Re: Re: ecwebv4
By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 2022 03:17 pm

I ran a BBS from 1994 to 2000, and I don't think I had my BBS ask for users' addresses back then. Only their phone number, since I used a callback verifier at the time.

When I saw a BBS ask for a mailing address, I think it was often for BBSes with adult content where they might want to contact you for verification of your age.

The only address info I plan to collect is the City & State, and that's for my last ten callers info, as I don't like it showing a blank line. The actual street address, and zip code, and phone number I could care less, as it's not needed these days. I plan on changing it tomorrow. The problem was, webv4 was only asking for a user name, password and email as mandatory, and I wanted more, and now that it's fixed, I can tweak the system. My problem was, that I have been realitivly lazy for a few years, now I've got back into it, and I'm paying the price fixing the things that were broken and negiected. It's all coming togeather now though. :)

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On 01-31-22 08:34, DesotoFireflite wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Yes, I'm planning on trimming down the required questions to what I
really want and need. I still want the city and state, age, alias, real Name, and email and password, the rest I don't really care about. Now
that EC solved the issue, I can get things squared up.

I find city/state antiquated without country, given everything is globlly accessible. And those are pretty much the details I'm interested in as well. Alias and "real name" are needed for using the system, including much of Fidonet, email is an alternative point of contact, and password is obvious. :D



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