The Baptist bit was just an example, I'm curious how everyone feels
about this. Thanks!

I'm Catholic, and it's my duty to impose my religion on others, but I ignore that rule, and I would never encourage anyone to become Catholic, because Catholicism makes no sense to me, I was just born into it, I believe in God, but that's because of the cosmos, not because of any books or prophets.

I had my kids baptized as a precaution for them, in case I'm wrong.

But if someone was really, really interested, and although I'd be totally the wrong person to inquire with about it, I would tell them everything I know,
and be glad that they want to join my church - and perhaps donate to it, providing a means for other children to be baptized.

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Hello metalhead!

30 Dec 16 18:09, you wrote to tfurrows:

The Baptist bit was just an example, I'm curious how everyone
feels about this. Thanks!

I'm Catholic, and it's my duty to impose my religion on others, but I ignore that rule, and I would never encourage anyone to become
Catholic, because Catholicism makes no sense to me, I was just born
into it, I believe in God, but that's because of the cosmos, not
because of any books or prophets.

I had my kids baptized as a precaution for them, in case I'm wrong.

But if someone was really, really interested, and although I'd be
totally the wrong person to inquire with about it, I would tell them everything I know, and be glad that they want to join my church - and perhaps donate to it, providing a means for other children to be
baptized.

I, too was born into Catholicism. Catholicism is what made me the Atheist I am today.



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Hello DaiTengu,

On Fri Dec 30 2016 19:25:20, DaiTengu wrote to metalhead:

But if someone was really, really interested, and although I'd be
totally the wrong person to inquire with about it, I would tell
them everything I know, and be glad that they want to join my
church - and perhaps donate to it, providing a means for other
children to be baptized.

I, too was born into Catholicism. Catholicism is what made me the Atheist I am today.

I was brought up and confirmed Lutheran. After confirmation, and all those years watching people put crazy amounts of cash into the donation basket, noticed the church became 2-3 times the size it originally was when I went there, I lost interest in church itself. It's a business, just like anything else.

I can't say I'm atheist, but I can't really label myself in any other category either. :)

Regards,
Nick

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I may have missed it, but I don't think that I ever read anything about a "dress code" in the Bible.

There are many small, stuck-up towns where people judge one-another from head to toe. I grew up in one of said towns, lived in a large city for several years, came back, and realized what a bunch of dicks they all are in this little over-glamorized piece of crap town. I can only imagine what they would say if someone attended mass wearing anything less than jeans and a t-shirt.

I went to this dick-church to get my son baptized (he was just born a month ago,) and they wanted to interview me first. I went to the interview, and I explained how I attended that church throughout my childhood, and for part of my adult life, and how my parents are still attending their wonderful little shithole.

Anyway, they asked me how I support my family, which is not something I'm
proud of, but I told the truth, then the lady was displeased with my
admission of not being "confirmed," but I explained that his mother, and both godparents are confirmed, and that they even have their paperwork to prove
it. I also explained that my older daughter was baptized in a south-western catholic church, that my girlfriend and I both took a baptism class
recently, and I that I want all my children to be baptized to protect them.

The lady was like "Well, I'll e-mail you and let you know about the next steps." She never e-mailed me. I called her, and she said she would e-mail me again, but she never did.

I went to a bigger, more popular church, in the city of Binghamton
(neighboring city,) and they asked me like 2 questions, and baptized my son within 3 days. Wow! You can move mountains by disregarding stuck-up people!

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I, too was born into Catholicism. Catholicism is what made me the Atheist I am today.

I'm half Church of Satan and half Catholic; I don't know if there's an afterlife, but I've got my foot half-way in the door. I do know that there's
a currentlife, and I'm fully engaged with it, living it to the best of my ability, not letting other people's problems become my own, but giving a helping hand whenever I'm able, to anyone, and indulging in all of the finest elements on the planet; great sex, the ultimate in weed, good beer, nurturing my heart with the love I have for my family, staying in good health, learning to dissipate anxiety.

I love my life! And I'll do anything I can to enjoy it more and more!

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Accession to DaiTengu on Fri Dec 30 2016 10:15 pm

I was brought up and confirmed Lutheran. After confirmation, and all those years watching people put crazy amounts of cash into the donation basket, noticed the church became 2-3 times the size it originally was when I went there, I lost interest in church itself. It's a business, just like anything else.

when i was a kid i worked in a machine shop and the supervisor was a former cokehead who turned his life around. he gave 40-50% of his money to his church.

he was such an asshole and always made me so nervous. he had the intensity of a drug addict but he was clean or so he said.
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DaiTengu wrote to metalhead <=-

totally the wrong person to inquire with about it, I would tell them everything I know, and be glad that they want to join my church - and perhaps donate to it, providing a means for other children to be
baptized.

I, too was born into Catholicism. Catholicism is what made me the Atheist I am today.

Mike

I was Catholic also. After the divorce, my exwife left me with a 6 yo daughter. I was taking her through the Catechism and she was prepping for her first reconciliation (first time to confession.) As a parent, I had to attend a short seminar where they basically called my kid evil and responsible for horrible sins.

All I could think of is: "Her mother just left her, and you are blaming her for everything."

We converted to Episcopalian shortly after.

I feel the Episcopal religion focuses on Grace as opposed to penitence. A child that is searching and reaching for the unrequited love of her mother does not need to be told she is evil.

Jazzy_J

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Re: Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Jazzy_J to DaiTengu on Sat Dec 31 2016 06:44 am

I was Catholic also. After the divorce, my exwife left me with a 6 yo daughter. I was taking her through the Catechism and she was prepping for h

er

first reconciliation (first time to confession.) As a parent, I had to atte

nd

a short seminar where they basically called my kid evil and responsible for horrible sins.

All I could think of is: "Her mother just left her, and you are blaming her for everything."

We converted to Episcopalian shortly after.

This burns me to no end... Honestly, how can ANYONE stsnd there and condemn a child. Children do have good intentions, and the bad intentions are just misunderstandings. I have a 3-year-old (in a couple of weeks) and a 1-year-old. They both make messes, get into things they don't need to get into, and take their anger out on everyone in the family. You know what people don't see when it does happen in front of them: the good thongs. Both my 3- and 1-year-old will sit in my lap and just watch TV with me, they love to show their affection (hugs and kisses) toward each other and my wife and me, they play with each other and make each other laugh, they share with and care for each other, and they do the funniest and cutest things.

Honestly, to stand there and berate the child is maddening; I don't blame you for converting over to Espcopalian. I just don't understand that whole "chidren are evil" mentalitiy.

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On 2016-12-31 02:44 PM, Jazzy_J wrote:

where they basically called my kid evil and responsible for
horrible sins.

That is terrible. Has never happened in my Catholic church. That is not
what Catholicism stands for. Those Churches with pastors who do such
things or even the community as a whole are not Catholic and neither is
that church.

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Re: Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Deavmi to Jazzy_J on Sat Dec 31 2016 06:04 pm

On 2016-12-31 02:44 PM, Jazzy_J wrote:

where they basically called my kid evil and responsible for
horrible sins.

That is terrible. Has never happened in my Catholic church. That is not what Catholicism stands for. Those Churches with pastors who do such
things or even the community as a whole are not Catholic and neither is that church.

i've been in catholic church and didnt hear any of that. now when i was
at a friend's lutheran church the sermons were all about guilt. it probably depends on the place.
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On 2017-01-01 02:17 AM, Mro wrote:

Re: Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Deavmi to Jazzy_J on Sat Dec 31 2016 06:04 pm

On 2016-12-31 02:44 PM, Jazzy_J wrote:

where they basically called my kid evil and responsible for
horrible sins.

That is terrible. Has never happened in my Catholic church. That is not what Catholicism stands for. Those Churches with pastors who do such things or even the community as a whole are not Catholic and neither is that church.

i've been in catholic church and didnt hear any of that. now when i was
at a friend's lutheran church the sermons were all about guilt. it probably depends on the place.
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On 12/31/16, metalhead said the following...

I may have missed it, but I don't think that I ever read anything abo "dress code" in the Bible.

There are many small, stuck-up towns where people judge one-another from head to toe. I grew up in one of said towns, lived in a large city for several years, came back, and realized what a bunch of dicks they all
are in this little over-glamorized piece of crap town. I can only
imagine what they would say if someone attended mass wearing anything
less than jeans and a t-shirt.

I went to this dick-church to get my son baptized (he was just born a month ago,) and they wanted to interview me first. I went to the interview, and I explained how I attended that church throughout my childhood, and for part of my adult life, and how my parents are still attending their wonderful little shithole.

Anyway, they asked me how I support my family, which is not something I'm proud of, but I told the truth, then the lady was displeased with my admission of not being "confirmed," but I explained that his mother, and both godparents are confirmed, and that they even have their paperwork
to prove it. I also explained that my older daughter was baptized in a south-western catholic church, that my girlfriend and I both took a baptism class recently, and I that I want all my children to be baptized to protect them.

The lady was like "Well, I'll e-mail you and let you know about the next steps." She never e-mailed me. I called her, and she said she would
e-mail me again, but she never did.

I went to a bigger, more popular church, in the city of Binghamton (neighboring city,) and they asked me like 2 questions, and baptized my son within 3 days. Wow! You can move mountains by disregarding stuck-up people!

This is Christianity to me. In a nutshell.

e pluribus unum.

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On 12/31/16, metalhead said the following...

I, too was born into Catholicism. Catholicism is what made me the Atheist I am today.

I'm half Church of Satan and half Catholic; I don't know if there's an afterlife, but I've got my foot half-way in the door. I do know that there's a currentlife, and I'm fully engaged with it, living it to the best of my ability, not letting other people's problems become my own,
but giving a helping hand whenever I'm able, to anyone, and indulging in all of the finest elements on the planet; great sex, the ultimate in
weed, good beer, nurturing my heart with the love I have for my family, staying in good health, learning to dissipate anxiety.

I love my life! And I'll do anything I can to enjoy it more and more!

The problem with fence-sitting is that you are usually sitting on the wrong fence.

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On 12/31/16, jagossel said the following...

Re: Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Jazzy_J to DaiTengu on Sat Dec 31 2016 06:44 am

I was Catholic also. After the divorce, my exwife left me with a 6 yo daughter. I was taking her through the Catechism and she was prepping

er

first reconciliation (first time to confession.) As a parent, I had to

nd

a short seminar where they basically called my kid evil and responsible horrible sins.

All I could think of is: "Her mother just left her, and you are blamin for everything."

We converted to Episcopalian shortly after.

This burns me to no end... Honestly, how can ANYONE stsnd there and condemn a child. Children do have good intentions, and the bad
intentions are just misunderstandings. I have a 3-year-old (in a couple
of weeks) and a 1-year-old. They both make messes, get into things they don't need to get into, and take their anger out on everyone in the family. You know what people don't see when it does happen in front of them: the good thongs. Both my 3- and 1-year-old will sit in my lap and just watch TV with me, they love to show their affection (hugs and
kisses) toward each other and my wife and me, they play with each other and make each other laugh, they share with and care for each other, and they do the funniest and cutest things.

Honestly, to stand there and berate the child is maddening; I don't
blame you for converting over to Espcopalian. I just don't understand
that whole "chidren are evil" mentalitiy.

This is just what all religions are. They are judgmental but they offer nothing but hot air in return. I am really really surprised that you are surprised that your chosen religions treat kids that way. The whole point of christianity is that it breaks your legs to sell you a crutch.

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On 12/31/16, Deavmi said the following...

On 2016-12-31 02:44 PM, Jazzy_J wrote:

where they basically called my kid evil and responsible for
horrible sins.

That is terrible. Has never happened in my Catholic church. That is not what Catholicism stands for. Those Churches with pastors who do such things or even the community as a whole are not Catholic and neither is that church.

Then why does your church move child molesters around so that they can avoid prosecution?

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: DaiTengu to metalhead on Fri Dec 30 2016 07:25 pm

I, too was born into Catholicism. Catholicism is what made me the Atheist I am today.

Me, as well. :)

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you are surprised that your chosen religions treat kids that way. The whole point of christianity is that it breaks your legs to sell you a crutch.

Sounds like socialism. :o



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son within 3 days. Wow! You can move mountains by disregarding stuck- people!

This is Christianity to me. In a nutshell.

But some Christians are cool. These people would be stuck up no matter where they go. It annoys me when they get out of church, and I assume we're in a place where we should all get to know each other a bit, kinda become friends, etc, but when mass gets out at a Catholic church, people do NOT seem to stick around to chat with their brothers and sisters afterwards, at least not in my experiences. I'm going to challenge this a bit more and see what happens.

I visited a Protestant church one time where people were really cool, and everyone wanted to talk to me and get to me know me a bit, and then they introduced me to the others. I liked those guys, but I just didn't stick with it for some reason.

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The problem with fence-sitting is that you are usually sitting on the wrong fence.

Yes, and there are way more important fences to worry about than this one.
Like "to eat non-organic beef, or not," or "to buy an SUV, or a small car."

These are things that will make a bigger impact in my life than choosing
which group of ants to wander around with.

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Then why does your church move child molesters around so that they can avoid prosecution?

It's one of our traditions for the priest to forgive confessors for all sins, no matter how bad. I've never heard of a priest denying anybody.

But yea, it's horrible when people cover for each other, even when they know the person they're covering for is wrong; protecting some kind of ridiculous brotherhood or something.

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On 2017-01-02 10:36 AM, Gryphon wrote:

This is just what all religions are. They are judgmental but they offer nothing but hot air in return. I am really really surprised that you are surprised that your chosen religions treat kids that way. The whole point of christianity is that it breaks your legs to sell you a crutch.

You are wrong my friend. Also, I have never had that.

Also, to the general public can we get some scope, Christianity is not a religion but a group of religions based off of the first Christian faith Catholicism. So when you say Christianity I don't know what you are
talking about. West baptist is Christian but the firthest thing from
Catholic.

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On 01/02/17, Dumas Walker said the following...

you are surprised that your chosen religions treat kids that way. Th whole point of christianity is that it breaks your legs to sell you a crutch.

Sounds like socialism. :o

If you listen to the stories, it sounds like Jesus was the ultimate socialist.

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On 01/03/17, metalhead said the following...

son within 3 days. Wow! You can move mountains by disregarding s people!

This is Christianity to me. In a nutshell.

But some Christians are cool. These people would be stuck up no matter where they go. It annoys me when they get out of church, and I assume we're in a place where we should all get to know each other a bit, kinda become friends, etc, but when mass gets out at a Catholic church, people do NOT seem to stick around to chat with their brothers and sisters afterwards, at least not in my experiences. I'm going to challenge this
a bit more and see what happens.

I visited a Protestant church one time where people were really cool, and everyone wanted to talk to me and get to me know me a bit, and then they introduced me to the others. I liked those guys, but I just didn't stick with it for some reason.

FWIW, you've just described people and humanity. At no point have you described religion or Christianity.

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On 01/03/17, Deavmi said the following...

On 2017-01-02 10:36 AM, Gryphon wrote:

This is just what all religions are. They are judgmental but they offer nothing but hot air in return. I am really really surprised that you ar surprised that your chosen religions treat kids that way. The whole poi christianity is that it breaks your legs to sell you a crutch.

You are wrong my friend. Also, I have never had that.

If I'm wrong, show me where I'm wrong. Otherwise, my position stands.

Also, to the general public can we get some scope, Christianity is not a religion but a group of religions based off of the first Christian faith Catholicism. So when you say Christianity I don't know what you are talking about. West baptist is Christian but the firthest thing from Catholic.

LOL! This is why there are so many different version of the unalterable word of god.

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Re: Re: Visitors to your chur
By: metalhead to Gryphon on Tue Jan 03 2017 01:09 am

I visited a Protestant church one time where people were really cool, and everyone wanted to talk to me and get to me know me a bit, and then they introduced me to the others. I liked those guys, but I just didn't stick with it for some reason.

Visit a Southern Pentacostal church, (NO NOT SNAKE HANDLERS FOR THOSE WHO ARE SLOW). would be something hard to forget.

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On 2017-01-03 03:16 AM, metalhead wrote:

Then why does your church move child molesters around so that they can avoid prosecution?

It's one of our traditions for the priest to forgive confessors for all sins, no matter how bad. I've never heard of a priest denying anybody.

But yea, it's horrible when people cover for each other, even when they know the person they're covering for is wrong; protecting some kind of ridiculous brotherhood or something.

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It is terrible that it happens and that they cover for each other. Very bad.

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Re: Re: Visitors to your chur
By: metalhead to Gryphon on Tue Jan 03 2017 01:16 am

Then why does your church move child molesters around so that they can avoid prosecution?

It's one of our traditions for the priest to forgive confessors for all sins, no matter how bad. I've never heard of a priest denying anybody.

But yea, it's horrible when people cover for each other, even when they know the person they're covering for is wrong; protecting some kind of ridiculous brotherhood or something.

if you think about it, society protects child abusers and child molesters.
a lot of people could report abuse and sexual abuse but they dont want to get involved.

judges give them a slap on the wrist. it's really fucked up. makes me think there's a big population of sick sick people hiding amongst us.
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Re: Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Deavmi to Gryphon on Tue Jan 03 2017 09:58 am

On 2017-01-02 10:36 AM, Gryphon wrote:

This is just what all religions are. They are judgmental but they offer nothing but hot air in return. I am really really surprised that you are surprised that your chosen religions treat kids that way. The whole point of christianity is that it breaks your legs to sell you a crutch.

You are wrong my friend. Also, I have never had that.

Also, to the general public can we get some scope, Christianity is not a religion but a group of religions based off of the first Christian faith Catholicism. So when you say Christianity I don't know what you are
talking about. West baptist is Christian but the firthest thing from Catholic.

i never had my 'leg broken' and i've seen people turn their lives around thanks to the church and religion.

it seems in fashion now for social justice warriors and liberals to hate on the church. i dont get it. live and let live. if it helps even one person it's worth it.
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Re: Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Deavmi to metalhead on Tue Jan 03 2017 08:50 pm

It is terrible that it happens and that they cover for each other. Very bad.

Confession or not, Murderers, Rapists, and Molestors need to be turned into law enforcement.. The "Father" can give them their pennance for their crimes, let them do their pennance, but also turn them into the authorities and let the Government punish them for their sins, God can forgive, but I believe God WILL NOT Forgive until the criminal pays their earthly pennance also.

I Truly believe you will not be let into the Kingdom of heaven just by one mans word alone, after all regarless of what his status is in the Church, he is still a HUMAN BEING. Pay your pennance to humanity, the victim, and any other people your crime may have hurt, pray to God for redemption, be a better person, and heaven awaits.

No "PERSON" other than myself is going to get me into heaven, Only I can do that with the help of God, and Church is not a building. Church is multiple people sharing the word of God. I've seen some stuff go on in Churches that make me sweat and feel as if I'm going to burn in hell just for being there.

Many people attend church to network with likeminded people (politicians, businessmen) to better themselves here on Earth, this is not the way it works people. and others treat church as if it is a meat market to hook up with their next fling of the week.. Just as a lot do in AA and NA. Total sickness people..

I'd rather stay at home, read the scripture, study it myself, speak with others about it, and live the best life I can live. I'm human, I backslide just like any other human, but I cannot put on a fake charade like a LOT of people I have seen in churches. I was raised Pentacostal, Baptist, and have been to Lutheran and Catholic. No offence but I felt as if I was going to burn in hell for stepping into the Catholic church. Pentacostal felt right to me, had most of the same teachings, etc as Baptists churches, with less of the snootiness.

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Re: Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Deavmi to Gryphon on Tue Jan 03 2017 09:58 am

Also, to the general public can we get some scope, Christianity is not a religion but a group of religions based off of the first Christian faith Catholicism. So when you say Christianity I don't know what you are
talking about. West baptist is Christian but the firthest thing from Catholic.

Hold on... Wait a minute... I thought that Christianity was formed by Jews who followed Christ?

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Re: Re: Visitors to your chur
By: metalhead to tfurrows on Fri Dec 30 2016 18:09:00

that rule, and I would never encourage anyone to become Catholic, because Catholicism makes no sense to me, I was just born into it, I believe in God, but that's because of the cosmos, not because of any books or prophets.

This is why God gave us the Bible, so we can read His word and determine what his plans for mankind are.

At the risk of getting too personal, I would consider it a major red flag that your religion makes no sense to you. It is normal to have questions, but something else entirely for your entire belief system to not make sense.

All I can suggest is that you make a list of what seems "wrong" or "senseless", and see what the Bible has to say about it.

Catholicism doesn't make sense to me either, but I'm a Baptist...

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Re: Re: Visitors to your chur
By: metalhead to Gryphon on Tue Jan 03 2017 01:16:00

It's one of our traditions for the priest to forgive confessors for all sins, no matter how bad. I've never heard of a priest denying anybody.

Is this where I ask why you would ask a priest for forgivness, when the Bible tells us that we should pray to Jesus to be forgiven our sins?

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introduced me to the others. I liked those guys, but I just didn't st with it for some reason.

FWIW, you've just described people and humanity. At no point have you described religion or Christianity.

For Catholicism, and maybe other religions, we're all "brothers and sisters." Brothers and sisters should help one another, and part of that is by being social.

During our mass, we shake hands with people in nearby pews & say to each
other "Peace be with you," but it's too formal; we don't really connect with one another to really be sure that "peace is with them."

At the Protestant church, people were talking to each other, mostly, with seemingly honest support. We (they) talked about things that were bothering them, and then mostly the pastor (but others too) offered solutions, prayers, and support.

I can't just call that "people & humanity." People are generally distrustful
of each other, and are not supportive. It seems (to me) like the churches are places where people should trust each other, and should support each other. I'll bet that it happens at many churches, but definitely not all.

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if you think about it, society protects child abusers and child
molesters. a lot of people could report abuse and sexual abuse but they dont want to get involved.

I know it's like that in New Mexico, and from what I can remember, it's like that in NY too. There's whole neighborhoods of child molesters in Binghamton.

Indiana, PA is a child-abuse friendly town. My ex wife, her mom, and her grandmother, all from there, all believed it to be right to
slap my 1 year old son in the face to discipline him. I can see that being sorta appropriate for, say, a mouthy 18 year old kid, but not my little 1
year old boy!

I didn't know what kind of people I was dealing with until it was way too
late. I immediately separated from the wife over that shit, and I felt like I had the upper-hand in that custody dispute, but the judge was like some kind
of child-abuse king! I lost ALL custody. The judge looked at me like I was garbage for complaining about it. I used to be allowed to call him, but as of June, even that privilege has been revoked.

So maybe like 3/4ths of society are child-haters, and then the other 1/4th
want to kill those haters!

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This is why God gave us the Bible, so we can read His word and determine what his plans for mankind are.

I get why people, who saw Jesus perform miracles, believe in him, but it's like, one time I swear I saw a ghost vanish into the air - but when I tell people about it, they think I'm crazy, and they don't add my story as a new chapter in the bible.

There's some lady in central america who can read with her hands - with her eyes closed! That's as cool as walking on water, in my opinion.

Jesus died for our sins, and he was a wonderful man, but many other people
have died in defense of other humans - and many, in way more horrible manners than in the way that Jesus was murdered. I'm not saying being nailed to a
cross doesn't sound agonizing, but it doesn't sound as bad as what happened
to other people who work hard at protecting others.

How can he deserve more recognition than a cop who gets shot to death while trying to protect an
entire nightclub?

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Is this where I ask why you would ask a priest for forgivness, when the Bible tells us that we should pray to Jesus to be forgiven our sins?

Good point! I think I read something about this in Western History 101. Something about the priest wanting to know everybody's business, or something like that.

There can't be a flawless relgion; even if someone finds the true word of God through a religion or a church, they won't know it until, possibly, the day they die.

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Re: Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Loco to metalhead on Tue Jan 03 2017 09:12 pm

Is this where I ask why you would ask a priest for forgivness, when the Bibl tells us that we should pray to Jesus to be forgiven our sins?

EXACTLY!

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On 01/04/17, metalhead said the following...

I can't just call that "people & humanity." People are generally distrustful of each other, and are not supportive. It seems (to me) like the churches are places where people should trust each other, and should support each other. I'll bet that it happens at many churches, but definitely not all.

It doesn't happen only in churches. You need to get around more.

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Re: Re: Visitors to your chur
By: metalhead to Loco on Wed Jan 04 2017 05:18:00

Jesus died for our sins, and he was a wonderful man, but many other people have died in defense of other humans - and many, in way more horrible manners than in the way that Jesus was murdered. I'm not saying being nailed to a
cross doesn't sound agonizing, but it doesn't sound as bad as what happened to other people who work hard at protecting others.

How can he deserve more recognition than a cop who gets shot to death while trying to protect an
entire nightclub?

The major difference is that the Bible tells us that Jesus is the Son of God, that he lived a sinless life, that he died in payment for our sins, and that he rose again on the 3rd day.

The cop who is killed protecting the nightclub died to save, what, a few hundred?

Jesus died to save all humans who were living at the time of his death, all humans who have came after, and all who are still to be born.

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The major difference is that the Bible tells us that Jesus is the Son of God, that he lived a sinless life, that he died in payment for our sins, and that he rose again on the 3rd day.

It's a really hard sell!

The cop who is killed protecting the nightclub died to save, what, a few hundred?

Jesus died to save all humans who were living at the time of his death, all humans who have came after, and all who are still to be born.

But the fact that he did it is on video tape. We can see these people being saved. The Christian, when saved, will never know whether or not it's true until when they die, and maybe not even then.

Some people have a really hard time coping with death of loved ones, and I think Christianity offers some relief for all those tears they shed. I can appreciate it for that.

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On 01/06/17, Loco said the following...

Jesus died to save all humans who were living at the time of his death, all humans who have came after, and all who are still to be born.

Saved from what? What is this Jesus character saving all people from?

Quick question... how many people were not 'saved' before Jesus came along? Are those souls 'saved'?

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On 01/07/17, metalhead said the following...

The major difference is that the Bible tells us that Jesus is the Son God, that he lived a sinless life, that he died in payment for our si and that he rose again on the 3rd day.

It's a really hard sell!

The cop who is killed protecting the nightclub died to save, what, a hundred?

Jesus died to save all humans who were living at the time of his deat all humans who have came after, and all who are still to be born.

But the fact that he did it is on video tape. We can see these people being saved.

What does being 'saved' look like? How will the video tape show that a
person is 'saved'. And saved from what?

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to Loco on Mon Jan 09 2017 02:24 pm

Jesus died to save all humans who were living at the time of his
death, all humans who have came after, and all who are still to be
born.

Saved from what? What is this Jesus character saving all people from?

Quick question... how many people were not 'saved' before Jesus came along? Are those souls 'saved'?

Those peple are the Hebrews, they are GODS chosen people. they do not need Jesus.

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to Loco on Mon Jan 09 2017 02:24 pm

Saved from what? What is this Jesus character saving all people from?

saving their souls, bro.

Quick question... how many people were not 'saved' before Jesus came along? Are those souls 'saved'?

nope. they are in purgatory or on the moon waiting for a real fucking moon landing so they can escape.
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On 01/09/17, KK4QBN said the following...

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to Loco on Mon Jan 09 2017 02:24 pm

Jesus died to save all humans who were living at the time of his
death, all humans who have came after, and all who are still to be
born.

Saved from what? What is this Jesus character saving all people from?

Quick question... how many people were not 'saved' before Jesus came along? Are those souls 'saved'?

Those peple are the Hebrews, they are GODS chosen people. they do not
need Jesus.

If the whole world was populated by Hebrews before jesus was born, then it
must have been populated by only hebrews when jesus was born. If thats the case, what was the need for jesus?

You still haven't said what it is that jesus is supposed to save everybody from.

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On 01/09/17, Mro said the following...

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to Loco on Mon Jan 09 2017 02:24 pm

Saved from what? What is this Jesus character saving all people from?

saving their souls, bro.

Saving them from what, dude?

Quick question... how many people were not 'saved' before Jesus came al Are those souls 'saved'?

nope. they are in purgatory or on the moon waiting for a real fucking moon landing so they can escape.

So you have no idea either, eh?

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Tue Jan 10 2017 08:44 am

You still haven't said what it is that jesus is supposed to save everybody from.

I still havent said??? How can I still say when I was'nt saying in the first place.. All I did was butt in.. Jesus was seeded here from an alien race to see how many crooks could make money off his name..

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Tue Jan 10 2017 08:44 am

You still haven't said what it is that jesus is supposed to save everybody from.

ourselves!
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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to Mro on Tue Jan 10 2017 08:45 am

Saved from what? What is this Jesus character saving all people from?

saving their souls, bro.

Saving them from what, dude?

ourselves!

Quick question... how many people were not 'saved' before Jesus came al Are those souls 'saved'?

nope. they are in purgatory or on the moon waiting for a real fucking moon landing so they can escape.

So you have no idea either, eh?

i just told you what happens. accept it.
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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: KK4QBN to Gryphon on Tue Jan 10 2017 12:58 pm

place.. All I did was butt in.. Jesus was seeded here from an alien race to see how many crooks could make money off his name..
Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Mro to Gryphon on Tue Jan 10 2017 06:36 pm

You still haven't said what it is that jesus is supposed to save
everybody from.

ourselves!

EXACTLY!

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Mro to Gryphon on Tue Jan 10 2017 06:37 pm

So you have no idea either, eh?

i just told you what happens. accept it.

Scripture states that all souls on this earth, whether already dead, or still living will face judgement when Jesus returns, this is where pergatory, and ghosts come into play for me.. when our earthly container can no longer hold our spiritual energy (our souls) our energy disperses and stays on this plane of existence with other energy. the earths, other peoples energy, etc.. at times when death is so traumatic, the energy within us gets so so unstable that when it leaves our bodies, it leaves imprints of that person, that event, in that space time (Ghosts, Spirits) I believe Mr Tesla thinks along the same line. When time for the Rapture, the saved will rise up out of their earthly containers, scripture never states how many will be raptured, could be millions. could be the one dying "untimely deaths" right now. Because we are in the last pages of revelations as we speak. So on the second coming, these spirits that have been floating in earth energy will rise again as a sentient being to face judgement, along with ones left who have not been raptured.

From the day of death, until Judgement day will be like a blink of an eye to the dead. Like they fell asleep, and they next day they are facing their Saviour. You cannot have science without faith, and cannot have faith without science. Notice I DID NOT say religion? Religion is just politics.

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On 01/10/17, Mro said the following...

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to Mro on Tue Jan 10 2017 08:45 am

Saved from what? What is this Jesus character saving all peopl from?

saving their souls, bro.

Saving them from what, dude?

ourselves!

And how is that working out then? It kinda shows his lack of ability to do
any saving, doesn't it.

Quick question... how many people were not 'saved' before Jesus al Are those souls 'saved'?

nope. they are in purgatory or on the moon waiting for a real fuc moon landing so they can escape.

So you have no idea either, eh?

i just told you what happens. accept it.

I accept that you told me what you believe happens.

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to Mro on Tue Jan 10 2017 09:49 pm

Saving them from what, dude?

ourselves!

And how is that working out then? It kinda shows his lack of ability to do any saving, doesn't it.

there's plenty of people that have been saved. general butt naked for example. he stopped eating people and running around with machine guns with his army of kids. now he's a man of religion.

i just told you what happens. accept it.

I accept that you told me what you believe happens.

so did you get fucked in the ass by a priest or something? you sure have a lot of animosity towards religion. it never bothers me any so i dont even think about it.
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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Tue Jan 10 2017 08:44 am

If the whole world was populated by Hebrews before jesus was born, then it must have been populated by only hebrews when jesus was born. If thats the case, what was the need for jesus?

You still haven't said what it is that jesus is supposed to save everybody from.

-+-
I'd like to know that too. if he was a temp, according to his track record, he'd be fired a long time ago.

This whole "born into sin", is nothing more than a made up guilt trip that the weak and the sheeple follow.

I don't subscribe to such nonsense, I'm a free thinker and will remain. the rest of you can talk about the "Joneses and see what they are wearing this week at church..."

/yawn

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: KK4QBN to Mro on Tue Jan 10 2017 09:10 pm

So you're gonna atually beleice that some guy that was 900 years old, was walking on this Earth?

Puhlease...

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On 01/10/17, KK4QBN said the following...

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Mro to Gryphon on Tue Jan 10 2017 06:37 pm

So you have no idea either, eh?

i just told you what happens. accept it.

Scripture states that all souls on this earth, whether already dead, or still living will face judgement when Jesus returns, this is where pergatory, and ghosts come into play for me.. when our earthly container can no longer hold our spiritual energy (our souls) our energy disperses and stays on this plane of existence with other energy. the earths,
other peoples energy, etc.. at times when death is so traumatic, the energy within us gets so so unstable that when it leaves our bodies, it leaves imprints of that person, that event, in that space time (Ghosts, Spirits) I believe Mr Tesla thinks along the same line. When time for
the Rapture, the saved will rise up out of their earthly containers, scripture never states how many will be raptured, could be millions.
could be the one dying "untimely deaths" right now. Because we are in
the last pages of revelations as we speak. So on the second coming,
these spirits that have been floating in earth energy will rise again as
a sentient being to face judgement, along with ones left who have not been

From the day of death, until Judgement day will be like a blink of an
eye to the dead. Like they fell asleep, and they next day they are
facing their Saviour. You cannot have science without faith, and cannot have faith without science. Notice I DID NOT say religion? Religion is just politics.

In what way do you come to KNOW any of this. Could it be because of religion?

Trying to disengage your beliefs from your religion is a farce.

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On 01/10/17, Mro said the following...

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to Mro on Tue Jan 10 2017 09:49 pm

Saving them from what, dude?

ourselves!

And how is that working out then? It kinda shows his lack of ability t any saving, doesn't it.

there's plenty of people that have been saved. general butt naked for example. he stopped eating people and running around with machine guns with his army of kids. now he's a man of religion.

SAVED FROM WHAT? Just blithely saying 'ourselves' is a non-answer. If that
is the best you can offer, then you have nothing to offer.

i just told you what happens. accept it.

I accept that you told me what you believe happens.

so did you get fucked in the ass by a priest or something? you sure have
a lot of animosity towards religion. it never bothers me any so i dont even think about it.

I have no problem with religion. I have problems with idiots who make
mOroNIC claims about religion and then fuck us all over because of their idiotic claims. We can see that happening now with the Christian Taliban taking over the Whitehouse and our congress.

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Knightmare to Gryphon on Wed Jan 11 2017 02:00 am

This whole "born into sin", is nothing more than a made up guilt trip that the weak and the sheeple follow.

Sorry, I don't believe in "Original Sin", it is'nt my fault Eve consumed the fruit of knowledge long ago, Now to some, I may BURN IN HELL for my beliefs, but a kid is born innocent and is only corrupted after seeing the world and its parents.

The bible can be interpreted anyway anyone wants to interpret it, especially to "herd their flock" I'm not too much a religious person, but I'm a FAITHFUL person. as I said before, Religion is just Politics.

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Knightmare to KK4QBN on Wed Jan 11 2017 02:02 am

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: KK4QBN to Mro on Tue Jan 10 2017 09:10 pm

So you're gonna atually beleice that some guy that was 900 years old, was walking on this Earth?

Puhlease...

Uh, what are you talking about? could you quote where I said a 900 year old guy is walking the earth? I presume your speaking of Methuselah which I never mentioned him. but many texts and scriptures are missing from the bible.. do you believe their could be life on other planets other than earth?

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Wed Jan 11 2017 08:32 am

In what way do you come to KNOW any of this. Could it be because of religion?

No, reading, the process of thought..

Trying to disengage your beliefs from your religion is a farce.

One does'nt need church to be faithful..

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to Mro on Wed Jan 11 2017 08:38 am

I have no problem with religion. I have problems with idiots who make mOroNIC claims about religion and then fuck us all over because of their idiotic claims. We can see that happening now with the Christian Taliban taking over the Whitehouse and our congress.

WTF is the Christian Taliban?

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: KK4QBN to Gryphon on Wed Jan 11 2017 12:16 pm

WTF is the Christian Taliban?

I'd like to know also!

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Knightmare to Gryphon on Wed Jan 11 2017 02:00 am

This whole "born into sin", is nothing more than a made up guilt trip that the weak and the sheeple follow.

I don't subscribe to such nonsense, I'm a free thinker and will remain. the rest of you can talk about the "Joneses and see what they are wearing this week at church..."

i've known some really kind, great religious people and they said religion enriched their lives and helped them when they were down. so whats wrong with that? why hate on it and live and let live.
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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to Mro on Wed Jan 11 2017 08:38 am

I have no problem with religion.

oh come on now, you hate it.

< I have problems with idiots who make

mOroNIC claims about religion and then fuck us all over because of their idiotic claims. We can see that happening now with the Christian Taliban taking over the Whitehouse and our congress.

oh, you will like the changes.
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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: KK4QBN to Gryphon on Wed Jan 11 2017 12:16 pm

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to Mro on Wed Jan 11 2017 08:38 am

I have no problem with religion. I have problems with idiots who make mOroNIC claims about religion and then fuck us all over because of their idiotic claims. We can see that happening now with the Christian Taliban taking over the Whitehouse and our congress.

WTF is the Christian Taliban?

if it's nearby, i might join it. i am looking to meet new people.
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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Mro to Knightmare on Wed Jan 11 2017 09:53 pm

i've known some really kind, great religious people and they said religion enriched their lives and helped them when they were down. so whats wrong with that? why hate on it and live and let live.

When I speak "Bad" of religion, its not what you are speaking of. I speak bad of the "Industry" of religion, and the fact that it and poltics go hand in hand, when they should'nt.

I think FAITH is what has enriched these peoples lives, not religion.

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Mro to Gryphon on Wed Jan 11 2017 09:54 pm

mOroNIC claims about religion and then fuck us all over because of
their idiotic claims. We can see that happening now with the
Christian Taliban taking over the Whitehouse and our congress.

oh, you will like the changes.

I still would like to know wtf the Christian Taliban is.. afaik the Taliban was started by the CIA, and the CIA is as far from a Christian institution as anything I can think of.

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Mro to KK4QBN on Wed Jan 11 2017 09:55 pm

WTF is the Christian Taliban?

if it's nearby, i might join it. i am looking to meet new people.

Good luck with all that, I hear the monkey bars are very slippery.

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If the whole world was populated by Hebrews before jesus was born, then
it must have been populated by only hebrews when jesus was born. If
thats the case, what was the need for jesus?

I think the main message that Christianity projects is that if you're Hebrew, or anything other than a Jesus-believer, then you're totally fucked, unless
you suddenly start immediately pretending that you believe in something that you're too smart to actually believe in.

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Re: Re: Visitors to your chur
By: metalhead to Gryphon on Thu Jan 12 2017 02:52 am

I think the main message that Christianity projects is that if you're Hebrew, or anything other than a Jesus-believer, then you're totally fucked, unless you suddenly start immediately pretending that you believe in something that you're too smart to actually believe in.

Uh, Hebrews are Gods chosen people in the CHRISTIAN Bible...

wth does it matter anyway.. at the end of the day, every religion points to the same God. different cultures have evolved ways to worship this higher power. just as they have evolved to their lands. Books (The Bible, Quran, Torah, Whateva) are written by people.. people lie.. people steal, people murder.

Follow your heart.. everything will be ok.

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On 01/11/17, KK4QBN said the following...

The bible can be interpreted anyway anyone wants to interpret it, especially to "herd their flock" I'm not too much a religious person,
but I'm a FAITHFUL person. as I said before, Religion is just Politics.

Faithful to what?

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On 01/11/17, KK4QBN said the following...

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Wed Jan 11 2017 08:32 am

In what way do you come to KNOW any of this. Could it be because of religion?

No, reading, the process of thought..

So you have no KNOWLEDGE of your beliefs. You have only wishes and dreams.

Trying to disengage your beliefs from your religion is a farce.

One does'nt need church to be faithful..

Faithful to what?

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On 01/11/17, KK4QBN said the following...

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to Mro on Wed Jan 11 2017 08:38 am

I have no problem with religion. I have problems with idiots who make mOroNIC claims about religion and then fuck us all over because of th idiotic claims. We can see that happening now with the Christian Tali taking over the Whitehouse and our congress.

WTF is the Christian Taliban?

Taliban is a religious fundamental political movement. I trust I don't have
to explain what 'Christian' means, or refers to.

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On 01/11/17, Ralph Smole said the following...

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: KK4QBN to Gryphon on Wed Jan 11 2017 12:16 pm

WTF is the Christian Taliban?

I'd like to know also!

It is a more concise term for the American Taliban:

The American Taliban is a derogatory but often accurate term for American Christian fundamentalists. It was coined after the invasion of Afghanistan, when the term Taliban became a household word. It is used to draw parallels between Islamic fundamentalism and Christian fundamentalism.
The point of the phrase is to compare those who would make the United States into a country with a state religion, or inflict their religious views on others through government decree, to the Taliban government in Afghanistan, which was also a repressive theocracy.

For the first time in American history, we will see our FIRST Christian inauguration. http://www.nationalinsiderpolitics.com/2017/01/03/breaking-trump-will-have-the- first-christian-inauguration-in-history/

Trump addressed a group of about 100 religious leaders before he spoke at a larger private event, "A Conversation About America's Future with Donald
Trump and Ben Carson," hosted by two faith-based organizations: United in Purpose and My Faith Votes, of which Carson is the chairman.

Trump, who called himself a "tremendous believer," assured religious leaders "I'm so on your side."

His newly announced board is expected to "provide advisory support to Trump
on issues important to Evangelicals and other people of faith in America," according to a statement from the Trump campaign.



And so it starts. The Christian Evangelicals will have the ear and their
input into the policy making for everybody; even those of faith who are not christians.

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Re: Re: Visitors to your chur
By: metalhead to Gryphon on Thu Jan 12 2017 02:52 am

I think the main message that Christianity projects is that if you're Hebrew, or anything other than a Jesus-believer, then you're totally fucked, unless you suddenly start immediately pretending that you bel in something that you're too smart to actually believe in.

Uh, Hebrews are Gods chosen people in the CHRISTIAN Bible...

wth does it matter anyway.. at the end of the day, every religion points to the same God.

Well, that's patently false. There are many Gods, so how can each religion point to the same god when there are many religions that have many separate gods?

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 08:36 am

person, but I'm a FAITHFUL person. as I said before, Religion is
just Politics.

Faithful to what?

I have faith that there is a God, A spiritual entity that is responsible for my creation in one way or another, and one who will be there to judge whether my energy (soul) will be worthy of a higher plane of existence (heaven). Why do I have to be faithful to Jesus. Mohammed, Joseph Smith, Abraham. Moses, Whoever. Can I just not be faith that I am not the end of it all? That there has to be an existence out of this physical realm that is so much more beautiful than what I have now? Is that too much to be faithful for? One CAN have God without religion. Religion is teaching from one person to the next, Faith is what you feel in your heart, and know to be true. Even if you cannot see, touch, or hear it.

If thats wrong than I've lost all hope for this world and every Christian, Muslim, Jew, and all other RELIGIONS in it. this is exactly why we're killing each other. over religion and politics. which both boil down to the same thing.. POWER.

These people can enjoy all the power they like on earth, compared to eternity it's a blink of the eye.

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 08:37 am

In what way do you come to KNOW any of this. Could it be because
of religion?

No, reading, the process of thought..

So you have no KNOWLEDGE of your beliefs. You have only wishes and dreams.

uh, reading, thinking, where is knowledge come from? I KNOW EXACTLY where MY beliefs lie, No wishes and dreams, and theres NOTHING wrong with faith. you must have a stale, one dimensional mind which has no ability for abstract thought. Just follow the herd into the slaughter house.

Faithful to what?

I answered that question multiple times, quit trolling twit.

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 08:41 am

Taliban is a religious fundamental political movement. I trust I don't have to explain what 'Christian' means, or refers to.

The TALIBAN is comprised of MUSLIMS, and created by the CIA, and you're an idiot.

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to Ralph Smole on Thu Jan 12 2017 08:54 am

The American Taliban is a derogatory but often accurate term for American Christian fundamentalists. It was coined after the invasion of Afghanistan, when the term Taliban became a household word. It is used to draw parallels between Islamic fundamentalism and Christian fundamentalism. The point of the phrase is to compare those who would make the United States into a country with a state religion, or inflict their religious views on others through government decree, to the Taliban government in Afghanistan, which was also a repressive theocracy.

"The American Taliban" damn.. this is what I've been speaking through this whole thread, the United States has been killing people in the name of Jesus Christ LONG before Afghanastan. This is why I despise religion.

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 08:57 am

Well, that's patently false. There are many Gods, so how can each religion point to the same god when there are many religions that have many separate gods?

There are many Deitys (sp) who all answer to ONE creator.

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On 01/12/17, KK4QBN said the following...

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 08:36 am

person, but I'm a FAITHFUL person. as I said before, Religion is
just Politics.

Faithful to what?

I have faith that there is a God, A spiritual entity that is responsible for my creation in one way or another, and one who will be there to
judge whether my energy (soul) will be worthy of a higher plane of existence (heaven). Why do I have to be faithful to Jesus. Mohammed, Joseph Smith, Abraham. Moses, Whoever. Can I just not be faith that I am not the end of it all? That there has to be an existence out of this physical realm that is so much more beautiful than what I have now? Is that too much to be faithful for? One CAN have God without religion. Religion is teaching from one person to the next, Faith is what you feel in your heart, and know to be true. Even if you cannot see, touch, or
hear it.

If thats wrong than I've lost all hope for this world and every
Christian, Muslim, Jew, and all other RELIGIONS in it. this is exactly
why we're killing each other. over religion and politics. which both
boil down to the same thing.. POWER.

If that is how you KNOW that there is something awaiting you and ready to
judge you, then I can say that I KNOW that you have it exactly wrong.

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On 01/12/17, KK4QBN said the following...

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 08:37 am

In what way do you come to KNOW any of this. Could it be because Gr>> of religion?

No, reading, the process of thought..

So you have no KNOWLEDGE of your beliefs. You have only wishes and dr

uh, reading, thinking, where is knowledge come from? I KNOW EXACTLY
where MY beliefs lie, No wishes and dreams, and theres NOTHING wrong
with faith. you must have a stale, one dimensional mind which has no ability for abstract thought. Just follow the herd into the slaughter house.

Abstract thought is not reality. I have several abstract thoughts every day. But I know the difference between abstract thought and reality. I know the difference between wishes (and dreams), and abstract thought. I know the difference between faith and fandom. The same feelings that tell you that religion is politics whereas faith is altruistic, tells me that faith as you define it, is nothing but wishes and dreams and ambitions.

Faithful to what?

I answered that question multiple times, quit trolling twit.

You never answered me until this last mail packet was received. If you are going to keep making the same assertion, I'm going to keep making the same query.

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On 01/12/17, KK4QBN said the following...

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 08:41 am

Taliban is a religious fundamental political movement. I trust I don' have to explain what 'Christian' means, or refers to.

The TALIBAN is comprised of MUSLIMS, and created by the CIA, and you're
an idiot.

I'm the idiot? None of your claims make any sense.

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On 01/12/17, KK4QBN said the following...

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to Ralph Smole on Thu Jan 12 2017 08:54 am

The American Taliban is a derogatory but often accurate term for Amer Christian fundamentalists. It was coined after the invasion of Afghanistan, when the term Taliban became a household word. It is use draw parallels between Islamic fundamentalism and Christian fundamentalism. The point of the phrase is to compare those who would the United States into a country with a state religion, or inflict th religious views on others through government decree, to the Taliban government in Afghanistan, which was also a repressive theocracy.

"The American Taliban" damn.. this is what I've been speaking through
this whole thread, the United States has been killing people in the name of Jesus Christ LONG before Afghanastan. This is why I despise religion.

And it is now, very overtly, taking root in our government, in the highest levels.

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On 01/12/17, KK4QBN said the following...

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 08:57 am

Well, that's patently false. There are many Gods, so how can each rel point to the same god when there are many religions that have many separate gods?

There are many Deitys (sp) who all answer to ONE creator.

Tell that to the ones who believe in the many gods. Which of you are correct?

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 12:46 pm

which both boil down to the same thing.. POWER.

If that is how you KNOW that there is something awaiting you and ready to judge you, then I can say that I KNOW that you have it exactly wrong.

then I don't guess we all can be right then can we? share some wisdom with us since you seem to know it all.

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 12:54 pm

You never answered me until this last mail packet was received. If you are going to keep making the same assertion, I'm going to keep making the same query.

I keep making the same assertion because it is my answer, it is not my problem that you cannot understand it. I cannot help you there..

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 12:56 pm

I'm the idiot? None of your claims make any sense.

You know, I never once claimed I knew ANYTHING about how any of this works, I can say I have answered your questions over and over and even answered as I would to a 5 year old, yet you cannot seem to comprehend the concept of pure faith, and the difference between it and religion. It's not complicated.

I'm finished with you, at this point you are either (1) and idiot (2) a troll, or (3) both. so thats where I stop. there is no science, or truthfully logic, in explaining FAITH. it to each their own, if you cannot understand that then you are very simple minded.

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 12:58 pm

through this whole thread, the United States has been killing people
in the name of Jesus Christ LONG before Afghanastan. This is why I
despise religion.

And it is now, very overtly, taking root in our government, in the highest levels.

And this I strongly agree, but the catholic religion has had their hands in government since written history pretty much, and so has islam and just about every other religion I can think of. this is why I despise religious dogma yet still have faith in God. Man has taken what could have been a good thing and done what we do best with it through perversion, greed, and lust for power.

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 12:59 pm

There are many Deitys (sp) who all answer to ONE creator.

Tell that to the ones who believe in the many gods. Which of you are correct?

Hmm.. ask the hindu of Brahman, the supreme God. this supreme God can come in the form of their many deitys.

and the buddhist pretty much in around about way follow the same view, buddhist text speak of Brahm, the supreme one, the mighty one, the father of all that is and will be. though Buddha himself dismisses him as a pretty much a prophet with more karmic fore than other gods, Just as Mohammed claims Jesus Christ as just another Prophet, but with great powers.

can you not see the connection here?

Then we come to Native American, the Lakota for one, believe all animals, people, and earth are inter-connected through spiritual energy, and they should love each other just as they do the earth an the animals, and all was created by Wemi Tali, the "All Where" the great spirit who made the streams, the trees, animals, the same who take care of us, all nature is in us and all of us is nature. The great spurut is not like a human being, its a power, the wind, energy. and we cannot hurt the earth without hurting ourselves, we are all one life force.

The same story goes on for different tribes with small differences.

Egyptians had many Gods, with "Nun" being the first, the source, the creator of the others.

And then their are the Gods of Greek Mythology, Zeues being the king of them all, god of the sky, weather, law, order, justice. yet the creator was Cronus until zeus overthrew him.

Then there are the Norse Gods, and of course Odin is know as the "Allfather", but more than likele preceded Tyr, which still makes all these religions monotheistic in nature.

Can you not see the paralells between stories in the bible and a lot of these "mythological" stories we call the older of these Myths, yet the ones we practice today "religion" when it is all just the same story told year after year, with changes to help the political environment at the time.

This is Religion, and even though I see all this and almost want to think its bunk, I still have faith in God, whether spiritual, or alien in nature.. who am I to say. Faith does'nt work like that. can you explain the nazca lines, or how pyramids and obelisks were built on every continent on the earth with batter clarity for azimuth and angle than we could do today? How do you explain glyphs and pictographs showing space age equiptment. I cannot explain it. But I have faith that I was created by *something* out there that can.

Call God what you want, The stories are all the same with different scenarios for different times and cultures. and its all playing out again. Will there be another Prophet after Joseph Smith? or was he even a prophet, or just a loon? How about Muhammed? How about Jesus, Moses? I don't know.. I was'nt there..

FAITH DOES'NT WORK THAT WAY, and it cannot be explained the way you want it to be. thats like asking me to explain the answer to life, the universe, and everything else...


well.. 42...

there, I thought it over.. Now I'm getting back to my TV. have a good day.

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On 01/12/17, KK4QBN said the following...

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 12:46 pm

which both boil down to the same thing.. POWER.

If that is how you KNOW that there is something awaiting you and read judge you, then I can say that I KNOW that you have it exactly wrong.

then I don't guess we all can be right then can we? share some wisdom
with us since you seem to know it all.

I never said I knew it all. I only stated that my basis for knowledge was
the same as yours.

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On 01/12/17, KK4QBN said the following...

Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 12:56 pm

I'm the idiot? None of your claims make any sense.

You know, I never once claimed I knew ANYTHING about how any of this works, I can say I have answered your questions over and over and even answered as I would to a 5 year old, yet you cannot seem to comprehend
the concept of pure faith, and the difference between it and religion. It's not complicated.

All I've been doing is asking questions. You stated very clearly what you
know to be the way of things. All we have to do is go back to the previous messages to see exactly what it is that say you know to be true. You've said that all gods are the same god. Is this true? Or not true?

I'm finished with you, at this point you are either (1) and idiot (2) a troll, or (3) both. so thats where I stop. there is no science, or truthfully logic, in explaining FAITH. it to each their own, if you
cannot understand that then you are very simple minded.

That is exactly what I've been trying to pull out of you. All you've managed to show me is that faith is as individual as the person who wields it. You have not shown me in any way that faith is a universal force that is the same for everybody. Gravity is the same for everybody, but faith is variable and unreliable.

From my point of view, it's people like you who troll everybody else. You've even spat in the face of people of other religions because you yourself do
not adhere nor condone religions. Just because you don't agree with
religion doesn't mean that the rest of the people on Earth who are faithful
to their religion are wrong. And no matter how much you try to separate your faith from religion, you will never be able to do so. So you are stuck, part and parcel with the defined religion of your faith.

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 05:02 pm

That is exactly what I've been trying to pull out of you. All you've managed to show me is that faith is as individual as the person who wields it. You have not shown me in any way that faith is a universal force that is the same for everybody. Gravity is the same for everybody, but faith is variable and unreliable.

Thats fine for me, it may not be for other, but for me its fine, somehow you feel you need to do a witch hunt to get me to REPEAT THE SAME ANSWER over and over again is beyond silly.

From my point of view, it's people like you who troll everybody else. You've even spat in the face of people of other religions because you yourself do not adhere nor condone religions. Just because you don't agree with religion doesn't mean that the rest of the people on Earth who are faithful to their religion are wrong. And no matter how much you try to separate your faith from religion, you will never be able to do so. So you are stuck, part and parcel with the defined religion of your faith.

I dont spit on ANYONES beliefs, I simply said I despise organized religion, that is an opionion I'm entitled to have I presume, and if I burn in hell for it I guess it's my bad. AYNYONE else can have their opinion too, but to kill and displace others is nothing holy, and some appear to be holier than though.. especially ones who repeat the same question over and over, expecting a different answer. I said I dislike orginized religion, thats all I said, why you take such offence I don't know.. only because you are a bullish troll> I still go to church, there are certian one I will not go to, not because I think I'm better than them, no.. it's the other way around. religion and faith used to be the same, they no longer are. How can you have faith in knowing yo're doing the right thing by believing a religious sect that kills millions in the name of god, or molests kids. Faith is my personal relationship with God. it don't matter what I say though, whatever it is, in your eyes I'll be stuck. and thats also a big issue with religion. some of the flock become so overwhelmed with what their shepards put into their heads, they leave no room to be open minded.

Gryphone, I don't know you, never have met you, but will say I love you as a brother, I do believe that is a consensus most religions and faiths try to preach and practice (as it is written) So I will just say that this debate is at an empass. I do realize most people see religion and faith as the same thing, faith is even a synonym of religion, but in MY eyes, it is not so anymore. and if you cannot see that, or cannot grant ME that, than you are just as much a bigot as you are calling me. so what is the use in carrying this further? To troll, bully, or to make ones self feel superior over another.

Thats all, it's not like you're teaching me anything, you only ask the same questions over and over expecting a different answer.. its not going to happen. I have a lot of time and a pretty hard life to learn what I have, so nothing short of a miracle will change my mind (because in my mind it took a miracle to think as I do now)

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: KK4QBN to Knightmare on Wed Jan 11 2017 12:10 pm

Sorry, I don't believe in "Original Sin", it is'nt my fault Eve consumed the fruit of knowledge long ago, Now to some, I may BURN IN HELL for my beliefs, but a kid is born innocent and is only corrupted after seeing the world and its parents.

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Yea, I don't beleive in that crap either. How can you be "born into sin"? more like "born into programming". Eff that.

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: KK4QBN to Knightmare on Wed Jan 11 2017 12:13 pm

So you're gonna atually beleice that some guy that was 900 years
old, was walking on this Earth?

Puhlease...

Uh, what are you talking about? could you quote where I said a 900 year old guy is walking the earth? I presume your speaking of Methuselah which I never mentioned him. but many texts and scriptures are missing from the bible.. do you believe their could be life on other planets other than earth?

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As you can see by the quote above, I made NO mention that YOU said that. My GF is religious and I'm not. We both agree there have been quite a few writings of a few old farts getting up to 900 years old.

Like that happened... I don't browbeat her, nor she does me. We agree to disagree :)

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Mro to Knightmare on Wed Jan 11 2017 09:53 pm

i've known some really kind, great religious people and they said religion enriched their lives and helped them when they were down. so whats wrong with that? why hate on it and live and let live.

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i can hate on it. You can hate on what you want.

What REALLY burns my chaps is when someone "sends prayers" instead of actually doing something or sending needed resources. WTF is praying going to do, plus the fact, that everyone I've met that had to mention "they were Chrisitian", are nothing but the biggest assholes I've ever met.

Those that know me, that for some reason or another comes out that I'm an Athiest, say "Wow, for a person that doesn't follow th faith, you're a very passionate person." (Which I try to be at all times...

It's just ARRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!

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Re: Visitors to your chur
By: Knightmare to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 11:20 pm

As you can see by the quote above, I made NO mention that YOU said that. My GF is religious and I'm not. We both agree there have been quite a few writings of a few old farts getting up to 900 years old.

Like that happened... I don't browbeat her, nor she does me. We agree to disagree :)

ROFLMA, I think it was written to me, so I assumed that.. but yeah.. I get your point :-)

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Follow your heart.. everything will be ok.

I agree! I think "Do unto others.." is a good rule to live by.

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