On 07/10/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

Tony,

Sure, I won't know if I'm right or wrong until I die, but that doesn' matter to me. While I'm here, being the best person I can be is what matters.

And, one day, we will know who is right.

The one thing God requires is "to believe on The One He Has Sent".

Why should anybody believe that?

But, while some may see any form of Christianity as "cramming a Bible down their throat", the simple fact of the matter is that God gives all mankind a free will choice to accept or reject Him.

Does free will really exist? Can you prove it? Can you chose to believ in islam, right here and right now? You *are* free to choose, right?

Also, Christians are commanded to "love and pray for our enemies". Most other faiths want non-believers dead.

That doesn't mean that they do that. Hitler was a Catholic, yet he did not love and pray for his enemies, did he?

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Re: PPL These Days
By: Gryphon to Daryl Stout on Mon Jul 11 2016 08:32 am

Most other faiths want non-believers dead.

That doesn't mean that they do that. Hitler was a Catholic, yet he did not love and pray for his enemies, did he?

how do you know he didnt?
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On 07/11/16, Mro said the following...

Re: PPL These Days
By: Gryphon to Daryl Stout on Mon Jul 11 2016 08:32 am

Most other faiths want non-believers dead.

That doesn't mean that they do that. Hitler was a Catholic, yet he did love and pray for his enemies, did he?

how do you know he didnt?

Because if he did, then that would be even more fcked up.

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The one thing God requires is "to believe on The One He Has Sent".

Why should anybody believe that?

If you choose not to believe it, that is your CHOICE.

Does free will really exist? Can you prove it? Can you chose to
believ in islam, right here and right now? You *are* free to choose, right?

We make the decisions in life that are solely our responsibility. Whether
t's
in regards to religion, where we live, what we do for a living, etc., we have to live with the outcomes.

If free will didn't exist, all of us would be "robots", doing the same thing. God didn't want robots, so He gave us the choice to accept Him or reject Him.

Also, Christians are commanded to "love and pray for our enemies". Most other faiths want non-believers dead.

That doesn't mean that they do that. Hitler was a Catholic, yet he did not love and pray for his enemies, did he?

Just because one is saved doesn't mean they lose that "sin nature". The believers won't lose that until either death, or the Rapture of The Church.

Hitler is thought by some to be a prototype of the soon coming Antichrist... whose regime will make the times of Hitler, Mao, Stalin, etc., pale by comparison, in the murder of Christians and Jews, who have been constantly blamed for the world's problems.

Daryl

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On 07/12/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

The one thing God requires is "to believe on The One He Has Sent".

Why should anybody believe that?

If you choose not to believe it, that is your CHOICE.

Hehehe. That doesn't answer my question. You're just shrugging it off.

So I'll ask it again. Of all the choices for belief, why should anybody believe as you do?

Does free will really exist? Can you prove it? Can you chose to believ in islam, right here and right now? You *are* free to choose, right?

We make the decisions in life that are solely our responsibility. Whether t's
in regards to religion, where we live, what we do for a living, etc., we have to live with the outcomes.

If free will didn't exist, all of us would be "robots", doing the same thing. God didn't want robots, so He gave us the choice to accept Him or reject Him.

First off, you now are claiming to know the mind of god and what it wants.
You have no idea if it wants robot worshipers or not. That is your personal addition to the narrative.

Second off, according to your criteria, you already ARE robots. You behave just as you are programed to behave. You say just what you are programmed to say. You think exactly what you are programmed to think.

By choosing to not accept it, you are actually choosing to NOT be a robot.

Also, Christians are commanded to "love and pray for our enemies". other faiths want non-believers dead.

That doesn't mean that they do that. Hitler was a Catholic, yet he d not love and pray for his enemies, did he?

Just because one is saved doesn't mean they lose that "sin nature". The believers won't lose that until either death, or the Rapture of The Church.

So that's the morality that the bible teaches us. That you don't have to be responsible for your own actions. You can do what ever feels good and just
ask for forgiveness, then go off and do what ever feels good some more.
What's to keep you from raping and murdering and coveting and cheating your fellows? Nothing! You've been forgiven! I believe thats what the
indulgences were all about, right?

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On 07/12/16, Mro said the following...

Re: PPL These Days
By: Gryphon to Daryl Stout on Tue Jul 12 2016 04:21 pm

Dude. I can see you are deep in your cups with your delusions.

Just remember, I don't believe your stories, and I vote.

hey you dont have to be mean to someone just because they dont share the same beliefs.

Yeah, tell that to Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, and all the priests that molested
all those boys, etc.

religious sub is THAT way BTW ===>

That's where I've been replying.

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So I'll ask it again. Of all the choices for belief, why should
anybody believe as you do?

I'll turn it around...why should anybody believe as you do??

First off, you now are claiming to know the mind of god and what it
wants. You have no idea if it wants robot worshipers or not. That is
your personal addition to the narrative.

I do NOT know the mind of God. All I know of Him is what is clearly
stated in His Word. And, I've seen more of Him working in my puny life,
that it trumps your statements that "God doesn't exist".

By choosing to not accept it, you are actually choosing to NOT be a
robot.

No, if God wanted everyone to accept Him, everyone would have been made
a robot. By giving us the FREE WILL of CHOICE, we can decide whether we
want to accept Him or reject Him. He gave our first parents, Adam and Eve, everything they could every want or need, in the Garden Of Eden...along
with ONE SIMPLE RULE...ONE SIMPLE PROHIBITION. They only broke it once.

So that's the morality that the bible teaches us. That you don't have
to be responsible for your own actions. You can do what ever feels
good and just ask for forgiveness, then go off and do what ever feels
good some more. What's to keep you from raping and murdering and
coveting and cheating your fellows? Nothing! You've been forgiven! I believe thats what the indulgences were all about, right?

WRONG!! The Bible said that "If anyone is in Christ, they are a new creature. Old things are passed away, and all things are become new".

Continuous, unbroken tolerance of sinful behavior should lead someone to question whether or not they have been reborn spiritually. Jesus Christ told one of the Pharisees that "unless a man has been born again, they can not
see the Kingdom Of God".

Saying that you can sin, confess, get forgiven, and keep doing the evil behavior in a never ending cycle, is making a mockery of The Blood Of Jesus Christ. You are trampling it underfoot as something worthless. Satan has deceived the majority of mankind into believing that:

1) He doesn't exist.

2) You can do whatever you want, good or evil...even if it hurts someone
else, But, he doesn't tell you that payments (the wages of sin) don't come due until death and Hell.

3) The preaching of The Cross is foolishness.

Jeremiah 17:9 is right -- "the heart of man is desperately wicked, and no
one know the extent of the depravity".

Those who have accepted Christ still have their "sin nature"...but they
also have a "new nature", that of wanting to live a life pleasing to God.
The "sin nature" doesn't disappear until death, or Rapture. It's like having
to deal with bad breath, body odor, and the other ills of this corruptible flesh.

One day, the believers On Jesus Christ will have a new resurrection body, like the one that The Lord Jesus Christ had after His Resurrection. It will never grow old, get sick, be in pain, gain weight, need to eat, sleep, heed the call of nature, or deal with the curse of sin...having the vigor of
eternal youth. On the other hand, unbelievers will have a corruptible body forever, that will forever be in pain and agony.

I know you and others consider these posts as "ravings of a madman". But,
I have done all the "warning" I can do about what's coming. So, anytime you want these posts dropped, just say so. But, if I stop discussion on the subject, it means that you have to do so as well.

Daryl

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Yeah, tell that to Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, and all the priests that molested all those boys, etc.

They (and everyone else) will have to answer what they did, and you
will have to answer for what you've done.

I will ONLY have to answer for what I've done. And, I have more
than enough on my plate as it is, as I'm sure everyone else does as
well.

I'm a sinner, but I'm a sinner SAVED BY THE GRACE OF GOD.

Daryl

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On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

If you are going to be lackadaisical about your beliefs, then thats u

If I didn't care about my fellow man or woman, and their eternal destiny, I wouldn't say a word about it. Then, they'd be merrily going
on their way to Hell and the Lake Of Fire saying "What problem??". What person would want eternal torment and pain forever when they die??
Someone cared about my eternal soul and destiny to tell me that I was headed for Hell, but that I didn't have to go there.
The Saducees of Jesus' day didn't believe in life after death (once you are dead, that's it). But, you aren't willing to consider the possibility that you might be wrong.

That whole paragraph is simply an admission that you only care about your beliefs and not the truth. Where is the examination of your beliefs? There
is none. There is only reaffermation.

Who decides what we really deserve? By what yardstick is it measured Who's standards. People are chopping off heads and blowing themselve up because they think that by doing that, they will deserve a place i heaven for their deeds.

God Almighty, the Creator of the Universe. His Standard is PERFECTION, without one sin in thought, word, or deed, and NO ONE CAN PAY.

So you admit that you could be going blithely along with your beliefs,
thinking you may deserve one thing, but have not notion of what you truly deserve. How do you make sure you are doing the right thing?

I *dont* care if you pray to Allah or Kali or Odin. I really don't. That's not the problem. You know what the problem is. I don't want your misguided beliefs to spill over on to my life by way of legalization of discrimination.

You are free to reject this, if you so desire. I've said more than enough as a witness to The Power Of God in this echo, and it's clear
that you are not receptive to it. God made The Rules...if you don't like it, take it up with Him.

If you don't truly investigate your beliefs, you could one day be standing before Allah and then where would you be?

Not concerned at all?

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On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

Dude. I can see you are deep in your cups with your delusions.

Just remember, I don't believe your stories, and I vote.

Fine with me. This life is temporary, like a vapor, and one day,
it will be gone.

If you no longer wish to discuss these topics, then that is fine
with me. But, remember, it all started with the subject of "what
is wrong with people??".

I'm more than willing to discuss the topic, but you keep going astray. I'm more interested in WHY anybody should believe what you believe. All you are showing me is what you believe and that you believe. Not why you believe and why you think it is correct and true.

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On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

Interpretations of that have caused untold hurt. Many Christians can tell between nature, behaviour, choice, and their own fears. And I would argue that the real sin here is giving into the latter.

There are so many translations out there that it's pathetic. The King

Does that give you just a little bit of a pause?

James (Authorized Version) 1611 version's language is in the time of

Authorized? By who? By committee? Or by decree of god? How do you test
for that?

And what sin was that? (the answer is in the Bible, and it's not the so-called "sin" that many attribute to Sodom and Gomorrah).

If you must know, that sin was homosexuality. The men of Sodom wanted
to anally rape the angels. Lot offered the men of Sodom his two virgin daughters, but they rejected his offer. When they came after Lot, only
the prompt intervention by the angels, who pulled Lot inside, and blinded the rioters, saved his life. In Leviticus it notes that "one shall not
lie with a man as with a woman, it is an abomination". Again, God made
The Rules.

Do you not see ANYTHING wrong with this account? Nothing? Nothing at all?

But in that book, this does NOT give Christians or anyone else the right to force values on everyone. Muslims in some country are equal guilty of this, in a more overt way. In fact, it gives room for more civil disobedience to break those unjust laws and make a point to the government.

While the world believes Christians are trying to "force" their beliefs on others, the truth is that Christians are commanded to "preach the Gospel to every creature". Everyone has the CHOICE to accept or reject
it.

I see that there is no mandate that what is preached is actually true. Some people would call that fraud.

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On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

You are an unbeliever too. Just remember that.

To the world (and to you), I am an unbeliever. But, to the Creator of the Universe, it's a much different story. I admitted before a Holy Righteous God, that when I realized:

Agreed. You are an unbeliever just as I am.

1) I was a sinner on my way to Hell, and eternal torment in The Lake Of Fire, but I didn't have to go there.

Who says you have to go there? Who decree'd it? Who created this Hell for
you to burn in?

2) I could not save myself, or do anything on my own to get to Heaven.

How could you save yourself? You had no agency to doom yourself, so how can you have any agency to save yourself?

3) My righteousness was as filthy rags (literally bloody menstrual cloths).

Ok. Whatever that means. I guess you all just like to take pride in being humble.

4) Jesus Christ is the only way to Heaven, and Salvation was a FREE GIFT,
which could not be earned or bought.

Salvation from what? From who? By what criteria?

5) He lived the life I could not, dying in my place on an old Rugged Cross.

Why was such an act like that required of a god who knows all, sees all, and wrote the book on everything before creating everything?

6) He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures.

Then all he had was a bad weekend. If you believe those stories.

7) He is coming back to rule and reign, and to destroy His enemies.

Of course he is. What messiah worshiping cult would be without the impending return. How embarrassing would it be for you if it already came and left without saying hello.

8) He would forgive me of every sin I had ever done or will do, if I just
believe on Him.

So this god sets arbitrary standards that you have to appease in order to... what?

9) Gratefully accepting His Free Love Gift made me worthy to go to
Heaven.

What's so great about heaven? I see that people have more stories about hell than they do heavan. Sell it to me. Why is it so great?

I know exactly the day, hour, and location, where I asked Christ to
come into my life and save me. To Almighty God, that makes me a
believer, and worthy of Heaven. But, it is Christ's Righteousness and
NOT my own, that makes me acceptable to God. I have the faith that if today was my last day on Earth, that the moment my heart stops...or if
the Rapture of The Church were to occur today...that I would instantly
be in Heaven.

Cool story. I understand that you believe what you believe. I just don't understand why you chose to believe it. What supporting evidence did you
find to chose one faith over another.

I would rather be hated by the world and its people, and accepted by God; than to be loved by the world and its people, and to be judged and damned by God to eternal torment. I may be a fool in the eyes of the
world and you, but I am a fool for Christ.

What if your stories and beliefs were not true and correct? What if the
thing you want most is nothing but air and vapor?

Why take it up with something that can't be shown to exist, for something that YOU claim to be true?

I have seen so much evidence of Him working in my puny life, that it trumps your assertion that God doesn't exist. If God doesn't exist, WHY are you complaining so vociferously?? And, why are you concerned that I pray to Him??

How exactly does this work without confirmation bias? Where is your
empirical evidence? I'm not concerned that you pray. I'm concerned about
what you do with your beliefs.

In the news right now, Ken Ham has built an ark according to the
specifications found in your bible. That boondoggle has claimed $18 million dollars of public, tax payer money. Kentucky is not a rich state, and that money, instead of feeding the poor, or giving services to those in need, is
now going as an offering to a snake-oil salesman.

My U.S. Senator, Ted Cruz, who is my representative, but does not represent
me, has abused his power by means of his faith (the same faith as yours) to slash aid to less fortunate people in my State. He also puts forth
legislation to use public money to finance faith-based organizations that
harm our families.

People of your faith are driving a wedge between all of our peoples and biblically calling for sanctioned discrimination against people who their
faith tells them to hate.

People of your faith who pray to your god, are foregoing medical aid in lieu
of prayer for their critically ill children. The news is rife with reports
of parents who let their children die, in some cases ALL their children die, from a easily treated illness. Because they chose to pray instead of seek medical attention.

I can go on and on with examples of people with your beliefs are using your beliefs to allow bad things happen to others.

But if you want to claim persecution and lament how I have issues with you praying, you go right ahead. But know that it's not the prayer that offends me; it's the actions that those prayers evoke in those who do the praying.

God tells the believer that "If you don't warn the wicked of their sin, and they die in their sin, their blood I will require at your hand. But, if you warn them, and they die in their sin, their blood is off of your hands". In short, the "witness" that I've done here, means that the blood of all those in this echo is off my hands.

This decree that you find yourself bound to makes no effort to examine
whether or not these beliefs are true. This amounts to fraud.

Hebrews 9:27 notes that "It is appointed for all to die, and after
this, the judgment". Everyone who has ever lived is going to go at death either to Heaven (with eternal peace and joy), or to Hell (with eternal torment and pain). Jesus Christ is the most important person anyone will ever meet. What you do with Him determines whether you go to Heaven or
to Hell. And, everyone will bow to Jesus Christ...eagerly in this life,
or compelled to do so on Judgment Day by the Truth of God's Word.

One day, we'll know who is right (the Christians or the non-Christians)... that fact can NOT be denied!!

There is no argument there. The problem is what do you do with this one life that you KNOW we have. Do you turn a blind eye on it and forsake it in lieu
of a life you really have no way of knowing will come your way?

And, if those who refuse to believe in God and believe on His Son are wrong, they will regret it forever. They won't be able to say on
Judgment Day that they were not warned...because everyone gets at least one chance to hear the Gospel.

Ahh, here we come to it at last. We now have the fear-mongering aspect of
the messiah cults.

Just ask yourself. Why is there judgment at all? Why does there have to be judgment? Why does there have to be a hell to punish the wrong does? Why can't this god just take everybody to its bosom no matter what? Why does
your god keep a place of torment to keep people in line? What does it have
to lose if you don't toe the line? How does it hurt it to do away with this place of torment?

Those are the kinds of questions that should make you think about your
beliefs.

The Scripture verses what I used are what God has said. If that's not good enough for you, then I'm not going to pursue the topic any further.

That just illustrates to me that you have no desire for knowing the truth
about your beliefs. When have you ever critically examined your beliefs?
Where did they come from? How did you get them? What are the linchpins?
What would happen if one of those linchpins of your faith were to be undone? Would you be prepared for the fallout if any of your linchpins to your faith were ever removed?

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On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

So I'll ask it again. Of all the choices for belief, why should anybody believe as you do?

I'll turn it around...why should anybody believe as you do??

What is it that you think I believe?

First off, you now are claiming to know the mind of god and what it wants. You have no idea if it wants robot worshipers or not. That is your personal addition to the narrative.

I do NOT know the mind of God. All I know of Him is what is clearly stated in His Word. And, I've seen more of Him working in my puny life, that it trumps your statements that "God doesn't exist".

Which is it? You say you don't know the mind of god, by you carry on telling
me exactly what is in the mind of god.

You have never once EVER seen me say that god does not exist. So you are
wrong about that. What else can you be wrong about?

By choosing to not accept it, you are actually choosing to NOT be a robot.

No, if God wanted everyone to accept Him, everyone would have been made a robot. By giving us the FREE WILL of CHOICE, we can decide whether we want to accept Him or reject Him. He gave our first parents, Adam and
Eve, everything they could every want or need, in the Garden Of Eden...along with ONE SIMPLE RULE...ONE SIMPLE PROHIBITION. They only broke it once.

Do you even listen to yourself? Do you not see the quality of this god that you are obsessed with?
How can A&E have free will to chose right or wrong if the knowledge of right and wrong were denied them?
Are you damned for something that your father did? Apparently so.

So that's the morality that the bible teaches us. That you don't hav to be responsible for your own actions. You can do what ever feels good and just ask for forgiveness, then go off and do what ever feels good some more. What's to keep you from raping and murdering and coveting and cheating your fellows? Nothing! You've been forgiven! believe thats what the indulgences were all about, right?

WRONG!! The Bible said that "If anyone is in Christ, they are a new creature. Old things are passed away, and all things are become new".

Continuous, unbroken tolerance of sinful behavior should lead someone
to question whether or not they have been reborn spiritually. Jesus
Christ told one of the Pharisees that "unless a man has been born again, they can not see the Kingdom Of God".

But none of that matters. All one has to do is truly believe and repent, and all is forgiven. This is all according to your Word of God.

Saying that you can sin, confess, get forgiven, and keep doing the evil behavior in a never ending cycle, is making a mockery of The Blood Of Jesus Christ. You are trampling it underfoot as something worthless.

Dude. Don't put this on me. This is what you and your ilk have been telling
me all my life.

Satan has deceived the majority of mankind into believing that:

Ok, so now you're a satan worshiper too? Didn't your god create this satan guy?

1) He doesn't exist.

All god has to do is make an appearance.

2) You can do whatever you want, good or evil...even if it hurts someone else, But, he doesn't tell you that payments (the wages of sin) don't
come due until death and Hell.

Not even non-believers believe that a person can do what ever they want. Nobody needs this god person to tell us what we already know. If
non-believers don't believe in god, then they don't believe in satan and they won't be swayed to doing things that are reprehensible to them.

3) The preaching of The Cross is foolishness.

Well, from where I sit, it is. Its actually more than foolishness. I've
seen too many atrocities committed by those who believe like you do. How
many parents have killed their children in the name of god and the cross, for fear that they will fall into sin? The news is rife with such cases. It happens all the time.

Jeremiah 17:9 is right -- "the heart of man is desperately wicked, and no one know the extent of the depravity".

Those who have accepted Christ still have their "sin nature"...but they also have a "new nature", that of wanting to live a life pleasing to God. The "sin nature" doesn't disappear until death, or Rapture. It's like having to deal with bad breath, body odor, and the other ills of this corruptible flesh.

This "new nature" aka, scapegoat mentality does nothing to usage a person of their guilt. It doesn't matter how many sacrificial demi-gods you nail to a cross; it won't change your guilt one little bit. You are deluding yourself
if you think that killing a lamb to appease the gods will mean that your past deeds have been undone, then that is what is wrong with people these days. Asking forgiveness from somebody who had no connection to who you have
wronged still means that you are unforgiven.

One day, the believers On Jesus Christ will have a new resurrection body, like the one that The Lord Jesus Christ had after His
Resurrection. It will never grow old, get sick, be in pain, gain weight, need to eat, sleep, heed the call of nature, or deal with the curse of sin...having the vigor of eternal youth. On the other hand, unbelievers will have a corruptible body forever, that will forever be in pain and agony.

Cool story bro. But I have no reason to believe that is true.

I know you and others consider these posts as "ravings of a madman". But, I have done all the "warning" I can do about what's coming. So, anytime you want these posts dropped, just say so. But, if I stop discussion on the subject, it means that you have to do so as well.

Your 'ravings' could go a lot farther if you seriously gave me one solid
reason to think that any of it is true. Give me a reason why your beliefs
are true but Bin Laden's beliefs were wrong. DO NOT tell me because of the bible. If you say the bible is true but the quoran is not, you are going to have to show me why. That means you are going to have to show me proof that
is not reliant on the bible or the quoran.

I realize that you think the bible is true. I on the other hand, look at it with a critical eye. And because I have no free will, as you say I do, I am unable to believe that the bible is true. This is becuase I KNOW TOO MUCH to believe it to be true. If I knew nothing about the world, then I would have not way to tell if it was true or not, and could likely lean to your
thinking. But this is why I say we do not have free will. If you were to
give me new knowledge that could persuade me to believe as you do, then I
would again have no free will, because I cannot will myself to change my beliefs, any more than you can. People do not willfully change their
beliefs. They don't wake up one day and believe that gravity is negated and that they can now fly like a grocery bag in the wind. That just doesn't happen. The only way a person can change their beliefs is if they have a
good reason to do do. And the only way I know how to do that is to have sufficient truthful knowledge of a thing in order to believe it.

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On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

Yeah, tell that to Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, and all the priests that molested all those boys, etc.

They (and everyone else) will have to answer what they did, and you will have to answer for what you've done.

How are they to answer for what they've done? The people they have wronged
are not the people that they will be atoning to, right? This is again, what
is horribly wrong with your scapegoat morality. You decide somebody wronged you, but you have no power to do anything about it, so you decide to believe that they will have some sort of come-uppance that will be entirely to your liking. I have no faith that any atonement will ever happen as you say.

I will ONLY have to answer for what I've done. And, I have more
than enough on my plate as it is, as I'm sure everyone else does as
well.

Isn't it convenient that all you have to do is answer to a being that has no part in the harm you have done to others. What would it be like instead that you had to atone to each individual person that you had harmed.

I'm a sinner, but I'm a sinner SAVED BY THE GRACE OF GOD.

Yeah, that way you don't have to do any REAL atonement.

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Re: PPL These Days
By: Gryphon to Mro on Tue Jul 12 2016 10:18 pm

hey you dont have to be mean to someone just because they dont share the same beliefs.

Yeah, tell that to Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, and all the priests that molested all those boys, etc.

that has nothing to do with beliefs and everything to do with people doing horrible things.
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What is it that you think I believe?

I think that you have no interest in the Gospel, that you're an athiest or Saducee, who doesn't believe in life after death, no accountability, no Heaven, no Hell, no devil, no demons, and no God.

Which is it? You say you don't know the mind of god, by you carry on telling me exactly what is in the mind of god.

If I knew The Mind Of The Lord, I would know the moment of my death, the moment of The Rapture of The Church, when all prophecy will be fulfilled,
when Jesus is coming back, etc. Can you tell me the moment of your death??

For that matter, can you give me specifics on the events of the next severe weather outbreak, with tornadoes, large hail, damaging wind, flooding, etc. before it occurs??

In the Old Testament, the prophets of God were right 100% of the time...
they were never wrong. If a prophet was wrong only ONCE, they were to be
stoned to death being thrown off a cliff, with big boulders thrown on
top of them until they were dead.

Are you damned for something that your father did? Apparently so.

ALL of mankind is damned because our first parents, Adam and Eve, refused
to obey God in the Garden Of Eden. God said "the soul that sins shall die".

But none of that matters. All one has to do is truly believe and
repent, and all is forgiven. This is all according to your Word of
God.

But, there also has to be a CHANGE. Criminals have used "religion" as
a crux, saying "I found Jesus". When they say they are sorry for their
criminal act, they are NOT sorry for that...they are sorry that they
got caught.

And, God sees everything...motive, word, thought, deed. Everything that everyone does on Earth...present company included...is no surprise to Him.

I served on jury duty nearly 20 years ago, and the judge told one
convicted murderer that "you've been here before, saying you found Jesus...
but you apparently "lost him", as you're back here again on a similar
charge.

Only God knows an individual's heart...but if that heart is black and
cold toward Him, there is a limit on the times they can tell God that
"I will NOT be born again". He may then choose to take your life in
judgment. God is the Giver of Life, so only He has the right to take it.

Dude. Don't put this on me. This is what you and your ilk have been telling me all my life.

You obviously don't want Christianity, and I'm obviously wasting my
time with you.

Ok, so now you're a satan worshiper too? Didn't your god create this satan guy?

Blasphemer. Satan hates ALL humans...you, me, and everyone else...and especially those who have accepted The Gospel...because when they do, it's
a slap in his face. In short, he wants all of us dead, and in eternal
torment in The Lake Of Fire with him and his demons.

Satan was originally Lucifier, the covering cherub. He had the highest position of any created being...he guarded the Throne Of God. Basically,
he was "the music director" of Heaven, with the angelic realm praising
God.

Yet, he inflated with pride, feeling that HE should be running the show instead of God, and The Lord told him that "you shall be brought down to
the sides of the pit". He conned one third of the angels into following him...and all of them were cast out of Heaven.

After the final judgment, Satan will be stripped of all his power and
glory, becoming a shell of his former self. And, all shall look upon him narrowly saying "Is this the one who shook the kingdoms??".

1) He doesn't exist.

All god has to do is make an appearance.

He did in the person of His Son, The Lord Jesus Christ. When He
returns the second time "Every eye shall see Him, and all nations
shall wail because of Him".

Millions have said they could never accept "A Suffering Servant" as
their Messiah. So, when He returns as a conquering King, it'll be too
late to fall at His Feet, and call Him Lord.

2) You can do whatever you want, good or evil...even if it hurts someone else, But, he doesn't tell you that payments (the wages of sin) don't
come due until death and Hell.

non-believers don't believe in god, then they don't believe in satan
and they won't be swayed to doing things that are reprehensible to
them.

That's what Satan wants them to believe...that he and the demons don't exist, that there is no God, there is no Heaven, no Hell, no accountability, and no judgment.

The reason mankind doesn't want to do "good" is that because "the heart
of mankind is desperately wicked, and no one can know the extent of the depravity".

3) The preaching of The Cross is foolishness.

Well, from where I sit, it is. Its actually more than foolishness.

Everyone will have to answer for what they individually have done, and
no one else. I'll have to answer ONLY for what I've done, and for nothing
that you, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, or anyone else, has done.

Satan has corrupted so many "denominations" with all these legalistic requirements in it.

Cool story bro. But I have no reason to believe that is true.

That is your choice.

You obviously won't even consider "the faith of a little child", and
have no desire to believe The Gospel. So, I am finished with you.

Daryl

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that any atonement will ever happen as you say.

You will give an account for every thought, word, and deed, that you have every done...as will everyone else.

If there is no forgiveness of sin, then "we are the most miserable of
all creatures", as EVERYONE who has ever lived, is alive now, and who
will live, is going to Hell.

Isn't it convenient that all you have to do is answer to a being that
has no part in the harm you have done to others. What would it be like instead that you had to atone to each individual person that you had harmed.

I will ONLY have to answer for what *I* have done...not for a single
thing that you, Obama, Clinton, Trump, or anyone else have done.

I'm a sinner, but I'm a sinner SAVED BY THE GRACE OF GOD.

Yeah, that way you don't have to do any REAL atonement.

Works do not save a person...I'm saved by grace through faith in
Christ. The Blood of Jesus covers ALL sins...of those who place their
faith in Him. Even one sin not paid for would mean Christ is still in
the grave, and that ALL of mankind...present company included...is
headed for The Lake Of Fire.

As noted, you obviously are critical of The Gospel, and have no interest.
I'm willing to consider the possibility what my fate will be if I am wrong...and from what I believe, I have little to worry about. To me, you
are not willing to consider the possibility that you might be wrong.

If I didn't care about your eternal destiny, I wouldn't say a word...but,
I would have had to answer to God why I didn't share the fact that while someone told me that "I was a lost sinner on my way to Hell", that I refused
to tell others of it.

Daryl


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Who says you have to go there? Who decree'd it? Who created this Hell for you to burn in?

The Lord God. He said "the soul that sins shall die". He also said "I
have no pleasure in the death of those who die in their sins". But, if
we constantly thumb our nose at Him, and refuse to heed The Gospel, then
he will sorrowfully let us go on our merry way.

Satan and his demonic hordes are laughing at you, because one day (if
you have no intention on accepting God's Free Love Gift), God will turn
you over to eternal doom, giving you what you desired.

How could you save yourself? You had no agency to doom yourself, so
how can you have any agency to save yourself?

Salvation is saving ones self from eternal doom and torment in The Lake
Of Fire.

Ok. Whatever that means. I guess you all just like to take pride in being humble.

Righteousness is usually defined as purity, such as a bride on her wedding day in white.

Salvation from what? From who? By what criteria?

Salvation from eternal torment in The Lake Of Fire, from Almighty God, and
by His Criteria. Admission into Heaven means that you would have had to have lived a life WITHOUT one single evil word, thought, or deed...in other words, PERFECTION. I know of no one who has walked the Earth (except for Jesus
Christ, God in the Flesh) who was sinless.

Why was such an act like that required of a god who knows all, sees
all, and wrote the book on everything before creating everything?

Because God says that "Without the shedding of blood, there is no
remission for sin". Before The Foundation Of The World, God's Only
Begotten Son, The Lord Jesus Christ, God In The Flesh, the Lamb Of God,
was slain. It was in God's Divine Plan that He take upon Himself the sins
of everyone who would ever live, bearing His Own Judgment upon Himself,
dying on The Cross, victorious over death and Hell in rising from the dead
3 days later. He said that "All who come to Me, I will in no way cast out".

Then all he had was a bad weekend. If you believe those stories.

The reason for the 3 days and nights, is that the Jews believed that
from the 4th day after death, there was no way someone could come back
to life from the dead. Yet, Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead after 4
days, which angered the Saducees, who didn't believe in life after death,
just like the athiests. But, the Scripture noted that "God would not allow
His Holy Son to see decay".

Jesus also noted to the Pharisees, who wanted "a sign" that He was who He said he was, and He replied "Just as Jonah was in the belly of the whale 3 days and nights, so The Son Of Man will be in the belly of the Earth 3 days and nights".

An aside to that is where in a class where this teacher was doubting a
child telling the story about a man being swallowed whole by a whale, being
in his belly for 3 days, and being vomited out onto dry land, still alive.

Normally, the digestive juices would literally "eat anything alive" in the stomach. She asked the little girl how she knew the story was true. The
little girl said "When I get to Heaven, I'll ask Jonah". The teacher then
asked "What if Jonah isn't in Heaven??", and without batting an eye, the
little girl said "Then, I guess you'll ask him" (in Hell).

Of course he is. What messiah worshiping cult would be without the impending return. How embarrassing would it be for you if it already
came and left without saying hello.

He will return in two phases...first, to Rapture His Church, then 7
years later to save the believing remnant of Jews from being destroyed.

Josh McDowell, in his book, "Evidence That Demands A Verdict", notes
three categories that Jesus Christ could be...the first two are what
the world feels He is (and from your posts, you likely feel the same);
but the third one is what He claims to be.

1) Liar - If everything He said and did was false, then ALL of us...
present company included...are headed for eternal doom in The Lake
Of Fire. But, the Apostles and so many others throughout history could
have easily recanted their belief and faith in Jesus Christ...yet, they
chose to die tortuous, violent deaths instead. They were eyewitnesses of
His Majesty, and besides, WHO WOULD DIE FOR A LIE??

After Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the Garden Of Eden, God spoke of
His Plan of Redemption. Satan wasted no time in setting up counterfeit
plans. The Bible also notes that "When Satan lies, he speaks his native language".

2) Lunatic - The Jews feel that He was, at best, either a misunderstood
rabbi, who didn't have all his marbles together...or at worst, He was a deceiving blasphemer. He was not "The Messiah" they wanted...a godlike
warrior who would throw off Roman Rule, and usher in the Millenial
Kingdom. When He told them that He was "the only way to Heaven", the
Jews (and the rest of the world) was furious.

3) Lord - He is who He claims to be, and what you do with Him will
determine whether you go to Heaven or Hell. You can either bow down to
Him eagerly in this life; or be compelled to on Judgment Day, before
He regretfully casts you into The Lake Of Fire.

As noted so many times, if I'm wrong, I'm not worried. But, if you
are wrong, your death will be the start of your problems. And, I can't
go to Hell...because I've done "the one thing that God requires"
(believing on The One He Has Sent), He counts me as "righteous",
although it's the Righteousness of Christ, and NONE of my own.

So this god sets arbitrary standards that you have to appease in order to... what?

He made The Rules, starting with The 10 Commandments. He also noted in The Bible that "If you broke His Law at one point, you broke it at all points".

9) Gratefully accepting His Free Love Gift made me worthy to go to
Heaven.

What's so great about heaven? I see that people have more stories
about hell than they do heavan. Sell it to me. Why is it so great?

Look at the message on "Your First 6 Days In Hell" that I just posted.
You can laugh about it all you want, but I guarantee you that's what you
and all the other unsaved souls will experience if they refuse to accept Christ.

Cool story. I understand that you believe what you believe. I just
don't understand why you chose to believe it. What supporting evidence did you find to chose one faith over another.

Because the other religions and their gods said I had to die for them, and
I had to do all these things to gain access to Paradise...with no guarantee that I would "make the grade".

With Christianity, its God died for ME, and said all I had to do to be worthy

of Heaven, was to accept what His Son, Jesus Christ, did for me on Calvary. With Christ, I have "the peace that passes all understanding", and have seen far too many instances of Him working in my life, that it trumps your
constant saying God doesn't exist.

What if your stories and beliefs were not true and correct? What if
the thing you want most is nothing but air and vapor?

I'm willing to stake my eternity on what Jesus Christ did for me. If that doesn't get me into Heaven, nothing will.

After the Rapture of The Church, because all those who refused to accept God's Free Love Gift and The Truth Of His Word, were left behind, instead
of being taken to Heaven..."God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie". In short, since they wanted to believe the lie, He
will let them believe it with all their hearts...and He will judge them
for rejecting The Truth, and believing The Lie.

In the news right now, Ken Ham has built an ark according to the specifications found in your bible. That boondoggle has claimed $18 million dollars of public, tax payer money. Kentucky is not a rich
state, and that money, instead of feeding the poor, or giving services
to those in need, is now going as an offering to a snake-oil salesman.

The actual Ark is on Mount Ararat. I would refer you to a tract on that,
but your postings show me that you are not at all interested in The Gospel.
I feel that I am casting pearls before swine in trying to witness to you,
when you obviously have no interest in the Gospel.

People of your faith are driving a wedge between all of our peoples and biblically calling for sanctioned discrimination against people who
their faith tells them to hate.

How many times do I have to tell you that GOD MADE THE RULES, and that
man's laws will NEVER supercede God's Laws??

People of your faith who pray to your god, are foregoing medical aid in lieu of prayer for their critically ill children. The news is rife
with reports of parents who let their children die, in some cases ALL their children die, from a easily treated illness. Because they chose
to pray instead of seek medical attention.

Jesus Christ is The Great Physician, and the ULTIMATE healing for a child
of God, is to be called home to Heaven. He can choose to heal them
physically, or not. And, His Divine Will is going to be accomplished,
whether mankind likes it or not.

Those who have died in the faith are RIGHT NOW enjoying the joy and bliss of Heaven, with no sorrow, pain, cares of this life, sin, etc. He will bring these souls with Him at the Rapture, to receive their new resurrection bodies. God's ways are NOT our ways, and many times, people become bitter toward God, because

they thought "He gave them a bum steer", by "letting their loved one die".

When, in the space of a year, I lost in death, my grandmother-in-law, my father, my wife, my best man, and nearly lost my brother in a freak
motorcycle wreck, I could've been bitter, folded up my tent, and been
gone within 2 weeks...but I resolved "that's not for me". God still has
me here on Earth for a reason. I wasn't bitter about these going to be
with The Lord...their work on Earth was done. And, I know that either by
death or Rapture, mine will be as well.

Yet, as the Apostle Paul notes "Eye hasn't seen, ear hasn't heard, or
has entered into the heart of man...the things that God has prepared for
those who love Him". I know Christians who died and went to Heaven, and
were brought back to Earth, to witness to The Power Of God, and what is
in store for the believers. When Paul was stoned to death in Lystra, he
was taken to Heaven, and saw the Glory of Heaven...but he was forbidden
to reveal them to us, saying "it's not lawful for a man to utter".

But if you want to claim persecution and lament how I have issues with
you praying, you go right ahead. But know that it's not the prayer
that offends me; it's the actions that those prayers evoke in those who
do the praying.

I have prayed that God would open your eyes, and that you would see The Truth. But, if you don't even want to be prayed for, and you want nothing
else to do with God or Jesus Christ, then I will grant you your request.
I will stop this thread anytime you want...or I may quit answering your messages.

This decree that you find yourself bound to makes no effort to examine whether or not these beliefs are true. This amounts to fraud.

Again, WHO WOULD DIE FOR A LIE??!! Millions through the ages, including
the Apostles, died horrific deaths, rather than recant their faith in
Christ. They could've easily recanted their faith and lived...but they
chose death by such things as being burned at the stake, thrown to the
lions, impaled, crucified, sawed in half, etc.

One day, we'll know who is right (the Christians or the non-Christians)... that fact can NOT be denied!!

There is no argument there. The problem is what do you do with this
one life that you KNOW we have. Do you turn a blind eye on it and
forsake it in lieu of a life you really have no way of knowing will
come your way?

By faith, I know what's coming my way...and it's far better than what
the life on Earth has been.

Just ask yourself. Why is there judgment at all? Why does there have
to be judgment? Why does there have to be a hell to punish the wrong does? Why can't this god just take everybody to its bosom no matter
what? Why does your god keep a place of torment to keep people in
line? What does it have to lose if you don't toe the line? How does
it hurt it to do away with this place of torment?

Because The Lord Made The Rules. He created The Lake Of Fire for Satan
and his demons...and for all those who reject The Gospel.

That just illustrates to me that you have no desire for knowing the
truth about your beliefs. When have you ever critically examined your beliefs? Where did they come from? How did you get them? What are the linchpins? What would happen if one of those linchpins of your faith
were to be undone? Would you be prepared for the fallout if any of your linchpins to your faith were ever removed?

In a word, faith. As I've said before, I've seen way too many evidences
of God working in my puny life, that those trump any and all of your
arguments.

No one has yet been able to disprove anything from the Bible. While there
are several prophecies that have not yet happened, they WILL occur.

Again, WHO WOULD DIE FOR A LIE?? Would YOU die for something you knew to
be a lie??

Since, you have no interest in what I have posted, I am not going to
waste any more time with you. Jesus Christ said "By your fruits, you
shall know them", and your posts tell me that you want nothing to do
with The Gospel.

In short, your blood is off of my hands.

Since you apparently want to pay for your own sins, go for it. Mine
are paid for by the Shed Blood Of Jesus Christ...and I can never thank
Him enough for what He did.

Daryl

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That whole paragraph is simply an admission that you only care about
your beliefs and not the truth. Where is the examination of your
beliefs? There is none. There is only reaffermation.

Jesus Christ said "You shall know The Truth, and The Truth shall set you free". I would refer you to "My Statement Of Faith", but your words show
me that you are in no mood to hear The Gospel.

So you admit that you could be going blithely along with your beliefs, thinking you may deserve one thing, but have not notion of what you
truly deserve. How do you make sure you are doing the right thing?

What, I, you, and everyone else deserves, is eternal torment in The Lake
Of Fire. People on Judgment Day will want God to be FAIR -- but if that's
the case, He'll grant their request, and send them to The Lake Of Fire. FAIR
is a call in baseball, a fall carnival, or a weather term. On Judgment Day,
I want God to be MERCIFUL instead of FAIR.

If you don't truly investigate your beliefs, you could one day be
standing before Allah and then where would you be?

Allah is a Satanic counterfeit. The crescent moon is all over Islam.
Muhammad wanted to create his own religion. He needed the backing of his powerful tribe, so he picked Allah, the moon-god, which they worshipped,
to be the one god. And, he declared himself to be Allah's prophet.

In the 1950's, a major temple to the moon-god was excavated at Hazor
in Palestine. Two idols of the moon god were found, proving Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity. In the book "Islamic Invasion" by Dr. Robert
A. Morey, pages 211-218, there's a photo of Allah sitting on a throne,
with a crescent moon on his chest. One of Muhammad's wives was a 6 year
old girl, who he had sexual intercourse with.

So, on the day of Judgment, all the Muslims will be trembling, because
they have been betrayed!!

But, there is a real God in Heaven, who died for all Muslims, and wants
them to know the Truth. He is God the Father, God The Son (Jesus Christ),
and God the Holy Ghost. These three are the ONE TRUE God (1 John 5:7).
Jesus Christ, the only begotten son of the living God, created the
universe (Revelation 4:11). Every Muslim living today is breathing
because Jesus Christ gave them life, and they don't even know Him.

The Word Of God says "All things were made by Him (Jesus), and without
Him, was not anything made that was made". Jesus Christ will judge all
who have ever lived...and on Judgment Day, "every knee will bow, and
every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the Glory of
God The Father" (Philippians 2:11). Even Satan and his demons will bow
down in The Lake Of Fire, and confess that Jesus is Lord.

(The above 4 paragraphs are from the tract "Allah Had No Son" from
Chick Publications).

Daryl

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On 07/13/16, Mro said the following...

Re: PPL These Days
By: Gryphon to Mro on Tue Jul 12 2016 10:18 pm

hey you dont have to be mean to someone just because they dont sha the same beliefs.

Yeah, tell that to Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, and all the priests that mole all those boys, etc.

that has nothing to do with beliefs and everything to do with people
doing horrible things.

Ted Cruz specifically stated why he put forth that legislation. I told you, I'm his constituent. I get his press releases. His legislation is directly related to his faith.

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On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

What is it that you think I believe?

I think that you have no interest in the Gospel, that you're an
athiest or Saducee, who doesn't believe in life after death, no accountability, no Heaven, no Hell, no devil, no demons, and no God.

I asked you what you think I believe. Not what you think I don't believe. I certainly do believe in accountability, but not like you think.

Which is it? You say you don't know the mind of god, by you carry on telling me exactly what is in the mind of god.

If I knew The Mind Of The Lord, I would know the moment of my death,
the moment of The Rapture of The Church, when all prophecy will be fulfilled, when Jesus is coming back, etc. Can you tell me the moment of your death??

But you keep professing to know the mind of god. Just because you don't know all of the mind of god doesn't mean that you don't know any of it. But to
turn that around; if you don't know the mind of god, why do you profess to
know the mind of god?

For that matter, can you give me specifics on the events of the next severe weather outbreak, with tornadoes, large hail, damaging wind, flooding, etc. before it occurs??

No. How is that relevant? We do have meteorologists who can predict the weather to a certain extent. But I'm not trained on that so I personally cannot predict it.

In the Old Testament, the prophets of God were right 100% of the
time... they were never wrong. If a prophet was wrong only ONCE, they
were to be stoned to death being thrown off a cliff, with big boulders thrown on top of them until they were dead.

I predicted the loma prietta earthquake in '89. I predicted the events of 9/11. I predicted the fall of the berlin wall. I predicted the mt st helens volcano eruption in '80. Prove I didn't. I am 100% accurate in my predictions.

Are you damned for something that your father did? Apparently so.

ALL of mankind is damned because our first parents, Adam and Eve, refused to obey God in the Garden Of Eden. God said "the soul that sins shall die".

So you are damned for something that you did not do. What a nice god you
have there.

But none of that matters. All one has to do is truly believe and repent, and all is forgiven. This is all according to your Word of God.

Have you ever heard of the Stockholm syndrome? Look it up if you haven't. According to your stories, your god is taking you hostage by forcing a choice on you. He puts a gun to your head and asks you nicely to worship him, otherwise he will pull the trigger. Again; how is this considered free will?

But, there also has to be a CHANGE. Criminals have used "religion" as
a crux, saying "I found Jesus". When they say they are sorry for their criminal act, they are NOT sorry for that...they are sorry that they
got caught.

Youmean like Jeffery Dahmer? Famous homosexual, murderer, torturer,
revered by all Christendom as a good christian. The callus way that
believers negate horrific acts that god has commanded them to do, and that according to the stories, the horrific acts that god has done itself, is just beyond the pale.

And, God sees everything...motive, word, thought, deed. Everything that everyone does on Earth...present company included...is no surprise to
Him.

He even sees you masturbating and he has an opinion about that. If you
believe the stories.

I served on jury duty nearly 20 years ago, and the judge told one convicted murderer that "you've been here before, saying you found Jesus... but you apparently "lost him", as you're back here again on a similar charge.

What does this show me? That your teachings are bogus. I guess that
following your god didn't help him worth a hill of beans.

Only God knows an individual's heart...but if that heart is black and cold toward Him, there is a limit on the times they can tell God that
"I will NOT be born again". He may then choose to take your life in judgment. God is the Giver of Life, so only He has the right to take it.

See! You are now claiming to know the mind of god again. You are judging
your fellow man in your jury example like you seem to know what your god
would deem good or bad behavior. What does your god care what you do in
life so long as you worship him? That defendant could be right with god, but apparently, not right with you or that judge. You have no way of knowing,
but you sure act as if you do.

Dude. Don't put this on me. This is what you and your ilk have been telling me all my life.

You obviously don't want Christianity, and I'm obviously wasting my
time with you.

Who is wasting whose time?

Ok, so now you're a satan worshiper too? Didn't your god create this satan guy?

Blasphemer. Satan hates ALL humans...you, me, and everyone else...and especially those who have accepted The Gospel...because when they do,
it's a slap in his face. In short, he wants all of us dead, and in
eternal torment in The Lake Of Fire with him and his demons.

Why should I believe your stories about satan any more than I believe your stories about god?

Satan was originally Lucifier, the covering cherub. He had the highest position of any created being...he guarded the Throne Of God. Basically, he was "the music director" of Heaven, with the angelic realm praising God.

Yet, he inflated with pride, feeling that HE should be running the
show instead of God, and The Lord told him that "you shall be brought
down to the sides of the pit". He conned one third of the angels into following him...and all of them were cast out of Heaven.

Cool story bro. But without any way to check it out, it will always only be
a story.

After the final judgment, Satan will be stripped of all his power and glory, becoming a shell of his former self. And, all shall look upon him narrowly saying "Is this the one who shook the kingdoms??".

1) He doesn't exist.

All god has to do is make an appearance.

He did in the person of His Son, The Lord Jesus Christ. When He
returns the second time "Every eye shall see Him, and all nations
shall wail because of Him".

Millions have said they could never accept "A Suffering Servant" as their Messiah. So, when He returns as a conquering King, it'll be too
late to fall at His Feet, and call Him Lord.

Again, you seem to know the mind of god. You seem to be a prophet too. The funny thing about prophets is if what they prophesies never comes to pass,
they can just say that it has not yet happened.

2) You can do whatever you want, good or evil...even if it hurts some else, But, he doesn't tell you that payments (the wages of sin) don't come due until death and Hell.

non-believers don't believe in god, then they don't believe in satan and they won't be swayed to doing things that are reprehensible to them.

That's what Satan wants them to believe...that he and the demons don't exist, that there is no God, there is no Heaven, no Hell, no accountability, and no judgment.

The reason mankind doesn't want to do "good" is that because "the heart of mankind is desperately wicked, and no one can know the extent of the depravity".

That is patently absurd. YOU don't want mankind to want to do good, because that would put a dent in your beliefs. I do believe that mankind wants to do good, and as I have stated before, I have seen that it has. For every generation. You are just a doom and gloom kinda guy because it helps with
your beliefs. I'm a but more optimistic.

3) The preaching of The Cross is foolishness.

Well, from where I sit, it is. Its actually more than foolishness.

Everyone will have to answer for what they individually have done, and no one else. I'll have to answer ONLY for what I've done, and for nothing that you, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, or anyone else,
has done.

What? That is a far departure from what you say about Adam and Eve. Apparently individual acts CAN be judged individually and not be applied to
the whole human race.

Satan has corrupted so many "denominations" with all these legalistic requirements in it.

But not yours. Your denomination got it right. Isn't it amazing how you
were born into exactly the correct religion? Out of all the thousands and thousands of beliefs, you were taught the only correct beliefs. Isn't that amazing?

Cool story bro. But I have no reason to believe that is true.

That is your choice.

You obviously won't even consider "the faith of a little child", and have no desire to believe The Gospel. So, I am finished with you.

What proof does that offer regarding the truth of your beliefs?

I keep asking you WHY you believe what you believe is the truth. You can not even one time show me WHY. Not once. You show me only that you do believe, and exactly what you believe, and you use the words of other men to describe your beliefs.

You certainly get off easy when commanded to preach (and only preach) your gospel. That's the easiest part of it. If you had to also show why and how these gospels were in fact true, you would be in dire straits.

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On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

that any atonement will ever happen as you say.

You will give an account for every thought, word, and deed, that you have every done...as will everyone else.

If there is no forgiveness of sin, then "we are the most miserable of all creatures", as EVERYONE who has ever lived, is alive now, and who
will live, is going to Hell.

If hell is living with regret, then I agree. If the hell you speak of is something more, then I do not agree. There are some things that you call sin that I do not, and have no compunction to feel regretful of.

Isn't it convenient that all you have to do is answer to a being that has no part in the harm you have done to others. What would it be li instead that you had to atone to each individual person that you had harmed.

I will ONLY have to answer for what *I* have done...not for a single thing that you, Obama, Clinton, Trump, or anyone else have done.

I really love how you have made a strawman out of my question. I did not ask you about what others have done. I asked you about what YOU have done to OTHERS. Will you ask for forgiveness of those you have wronged? Apparently not. You'll go to some 3rd party and will magically be absolved of all your guilt.

What do these people have to do with your personal actions?

I'm a sinner, but I'm a sinner SAVED BY THE GRACE OF GOD.

Yeah, that way you don't have to do any REAL atonement.

Works do not save a person...I'm saved by grace through faith in
Christ. The Blood of Jesus covers ALL sins...of those who place their faith in Him. Even one sin not paid for would mean Christ is still in
the grave, and that ALL of mankind...present company included...is
headed for The Lake Of Fire.

What 'works' do you mean? The 'work' of asking forgiveness from those you
have wronged? Or the 'work' of asking forgiveness from some being that has no bearing on the people you have wronged?

As noted, you obviously are critical of The Gospel, and have no interest. I'm willing to consider the possibility what my fate will be
if I am wrong...and from what I believe, I have little to worry about.
To me, you are not willing to consider the possibility that you might be wrong.

Thats not true. I do have an interest. I have an interest in my well being. If the stories of your gospel are true, then I want to know. If they are not true, then I want to know that too, so I'm not wasting my time by looking in the wrong place. You have apparently satisfied yourself as to their
validity. I'm asking you WHY you believe them.

To me, you are not in the least willing to consider if you are wrong. The first place where you are wrong is that you believe that there are no consequences if you are in fact wrong. You've simply latched on the most feel-good stories and did no due diligence to see if they were true. If you had, then you would have said so.

If I didn't care about your eternal destiny, I wouldn't say a word...but, I would have had to answer to God why I didn't share the
fact that while someone told me that "I was a lost sinner on my way to Hell", that I refused to tell others of it.

And when this god asks you what proofs you offered, what will you say?
You'll offer only the fallible words of other mortal men. That is all you
can say that you offered. What will you do then?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX

On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

Who says you have to go there? Who decree'd it? Who created this He for you to burn in?

The Lord God. He said "the soul that sins shall die". He also said "I have no pleasure in the death of those who die in their sins". But, if
we constantly thumb our nose at Him, and refuse to heed The Gospel, then he will sorrowfully let us go on our merry way.

Satan and his demonic hordes are laughing at you, because one day (if you have no intention on accepting God's Free Love Gift), God will turn you over to eternal doom, giving you what you desired.

Cool story bro. Why should I believe it just because YOU believe it? Have
you got anything to back it up?

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* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX

On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

How could you save yourself? You had no agency to doom yourself, so how can you have any agency to save yourself?

Salvation is saving ones self from eternal doom and torment in The Lake Of Fire.

And how can you have an agency to save yourself from something that you had
no agency to doom yourself to?

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* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX

On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

Ok. Whatever that means. I guess you all just like to take pride in being humble.

Righteousness is usually defined as purity, such as a bride on her wedding day in white.

Again, you like to take pride in you humility. Ironic, isn't it?

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* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX

On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

Salvation from what? From who? By what criteria?

Salvation from eternal torment in The Lake Of Fire, from Almighty God, and by His Criteria. Admission into Heaven means that you would have had to have lived a life WITHOUT one single evil word, thought, or deed...in other words, PERFECTION. I know of no one who has walked the Earth
(except for Jesus Christ, God in the Flesh) who was sinless.

So you do claim to know the mind of god. You know exactly how he will judge other people and why. But the truth is, you have no idea of what the
criteria are.

So now lets break this down.
You purport that:
1) there is a kind and loving god.
2) This god wants whats best for you
3) This god wants your worship.
4) This god will send you to the lake of fire for not worshiping it.

Did I miss anything?

Please tell me more about this kind and loving god.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX

On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

Why was such an act like that required of a god who knows all, sees all, and wrote the book on everything before creating everything?

Because God says that "Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission for sin". Before The Foundation Of The World, God's Only Begotten Son, The Lord Jesus Christ, God In The Flesh, the Lamb Of God, was slain. It was in God's Divine Plan that He take upon Himself the
sins of everyone who would ever live, bearing His Own Judgment upon Himself, dying on The Cross, victorious over death and Hell in rising
from the dead 3 days later. He said that "All who come to Me, I will in
no way cast out".

Lets break this down a bit:

1) God has a plan for everything
2) God knew adam and eve would chose to fall from grace
3) God decided that only spilled blood would fix things.
4) God devised a means to redeem mankind by making mankind kill his son.

This doesn't make sense, because if god decided that adam and eve would fall from grace, then that is what he wanted. Then #3 and #4 would be moot, because there would be nothing to fix.

What does this say about god?

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On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

Then all he had was a bad weekend. If you believe those stories.

The reason for the 3 days and nights, is that the Jews believed that from the 4th day after death, there was no way someone could come back
to life from the dead. Yet, Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead after 4 days, which angered the Saducees, who didn't believe in life after death, just like the athiests. But, the Scripture noted that "God would not
allow His Holy Son to see decay".

Ah, so your whole story has roots in stories that predated yours? Like this kind of messiah story has happened before? If so, then why aren't you following the original story?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX

On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

Of course he is. What messiah worshiping cult would be without the impending return. How embarrassing would it be for you if it already came and left without saying hello.

He will return in two phases...first, to Rapture His Church, then 7 years later to save the believing remnant of Jews from being destroyed.

So this only applies to Jews?

Josh McDowell, in his book, "Evidence That Demands A Verdict", notes three categories that Jesus Christ could be...the first two are what
the world feels He is (and from your posts, you likely feel the same);
but the third one is what He claims to be.

Ah, so we're relying on the opinions of other human, mortal men for our
beliefs in this unknowable god?

1) Liar - If everything He said and did was false, then ALL of us... present company included...are headed for eternal doom in The Lake
Of Fire. But, the Apostles and so many others throughout history could have easily recanted their belief and faith in Jesus Christ...yet, they chose to die tortuous, violent deaths instead. They were eyewitnesses of His Majesty, and besides, WHO WOULD DIE FOR A LIE??

This is a false dichotomy. Those aren't the only two alternatives. I is entirely possible, even plausible, that you can have it wrong on ALL counts.

After Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the Garden Of Eden, God spoke of
His Plan of Redemption. Satan wasted no time in setting up counterfeit plans. The Bible also notes that "When Satan lies, he speaks his native language".

2) Lunatic - The Jews feel that He was, at best, either a misunderstood rabbi, who didn't have all his marbles together...or at worst, He was a deceiving blasphemer. He was not "The Messiah" they wanted...a godlike warrior who would throw off Roman Rule, and usher in the Millenial Kingdom. When He told them that He was "the only way to Heaven", the
Jews (and the rest of the world) was furious.

3) Lord - He is who He claims to be, and what you do with Him will determine whether you go to Heaven or Hell. You can either bow down to
Him eagerly in this life; or be compelled to on Judgment Day, before
He regretfully casts you into The Lake Of Fire.

As noted so many times, if I'm wrong, I'm not worried. But, if you
are wrong, your death will be the start of your problems. And, I can't
go to Hell...because I've done "the one thing that God requires" (believing on The One He Has Sent), He counts me as "righteous",
although it's the Righteousness of Christ, and NONE of my own.

As I've stated many times, you are very wrong. Just because you believe this false dichotomy that either your right and you're good, or you're wrong and nothing happens, it doesn't mean that that will be the case. You could very will be following the wrong teachings and pissing off this god, and you could still end up in this lake of fire. Or some other eternal torture chamber. This is what you are unwilling to consider. You've insulated yourself in
that belief, and you are blithely ignoring reality at your own peril. I know that your ego won't allow you to think that you are wrong, but that would
just be one of those failings that you would be judged on, right?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX

On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

So this god sets arbitrary standards that you have to appease in orde to... what?

He made The Rules, starting with The 10 Commandments. He also noted in The Bible that "If you broke His Law at one point, you broke it at all points".

I get that you believe that. I really do. My point is, what do these rules tell you about your god? Think really hard. Consider all the angles.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX

On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

9) Gratefully accepting His Free Love Gift made me worthy to go to Heaven.

What's so great about heaven? I see that people have more stories about hell than they do heavan. Sell it to me. Why is it so great?

Look at the message on "Your First 6 Days In Hell" that I just posted. You can laugh about it all you want, but I guarantee you that's what you and all the other unsaved souls will experience if they refuse to accept Christ.

Like I said, there is more said about the stick than there is about carrot.
Or are you describing the carrot? How is hell different than heaven?

Exactly how can you guarantee that that is what I will see? HOW? By what means do you come to know this well enough that you can GUARANTEE that its true?

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On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

Cool story. I understand that you believe what you believe. I just don't understand why you chose to believe it. What supporting eviden did you find to chose one faith over another.

Because the other religions and their gods said I had to die for them, and I had to do all these things to gain access to Paradise...with no guarantee that I would "make the grade".

With Christianity, its God died for ME, and said all I had to do to be worthy

of Heaven, was to accept what His Son, Jesus Christ, did for me on Calvary. With Christ, I have "the peace that passes all understanding", and have seen far too many instances of Him working in my life, that it trumps your constant saying God doesn't exist.

Sigh. So your 'feelings' are what make you believe one story over the
other? You are commanded to share your gospel, so to show why it is true, you can only offer your 'feeling's?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX

On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

What if your stories and beliefs were not true and correct? What if the thing you want most is nothing but air and vapor?

I'm willing to stake my eternity on what Jesus Christ did for me. If that doesn't get me into Heaven, nothing will.

After the Rapture of The Church, because all those who refused to
accept God's Free Love Gift and The Truth Of His Word, were left behind, instead of being taken to Heaven..."God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie". In short, since they wanted to believe the lie, He will let them believe it with all their hearts...and He will judge them for rejecting The Truth, and believing The Lie.

So you are willing to stake your whole wellbeing on the stories of others, because they feel good? And because you are afraid? And you will follow a judgmental god that keeps a personal torture chamber for those who chose incorrectly?

Carrot and stick. Carrot and stick. There's a whole lot of stick, not much carrot.

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* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX

On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

In the news right now, Ken Ham has built an ark according to the specifications found in your bible. That boondoggle has claimed $18 million dollars of public, tax payer money. Kentucky is not a rich state, and that money, instead of feeding the poor, or giving service to those in need, is now going as an offering to a snake-oil salesman

The actual Ark is on Mount Ararat. I would refer you to a tract on
that, but your postings show me that you are not at all interested in
The Gospel. I feel that I am casting pearls before swine in trying to witness to you, when you obviously have no interest in the Gospel.

I'm interested in the gospel if it can be backed up by actual fact, and not
the offerings of mortal, fallible men like yourself. If the ark is on mount ararat, then where is it?

People of your faith are driving a wedge between all of our peoples a biblically calling for sanctioned discrimination against people who their faith tells them to hate.

How many times do I have to tell you that GOD MADE THE RULES, and that man's laws will NEVER supercede God's Laws??

How many times do I have to tell you that we have only your opinion on what gods rules are? I don't care about opinion. I care about fact! You have shown me nothing but hearsay.

People of your faith who pray to your god, are foregoing medical aid lieu of prayer for their critically ill children. The news is rife with reports of parents who let their children die, in some cases ALL their children die, from a easily treated illness. Because they chos to pray instead of seek medical attention.

Jesus Christ is The Great Physician, and the ULTIMATE healing for a child of God, is to be called home to Heaven. He can choose to heal them physically, or not. And, His Divine Will is going to be accomplished, whether mankind likes it or not.

You see, that doesn't sit well with me at all. That is just... wrong.
There's nothing else to say about it. I'm a humanist. I believe that people should not be made to suffer and die, especially when it can be prevented.

Those who have died in the faith are RIGHT NOW enjoying the joy and bliss of Heaven, with no sorrow, pain, cares of this life, sin, etc. He will bring these souls with Him at the Rapture, to receive their new resurrection bodies. God's ways are NOT our ways, and many times, people become bitter toward God, because

Ah, to be in blissful ignorance. It's like shroedinger's cat. Is the cat in the box alive or dead? But like shroedinger's cat, we will never know until
we open the box. So declaring that they are 'enjoying the bliss of heaven'
is just your opinion, isn't it?

Gods ways are not our ways. Just let that sink in for a minute.

they thought "He gave them a bum steer", by "letting their loved one
die".

When, in the space of a year, I lost in death, my grandmother-in-law,
my father, my wife, my best man, and nearly lost my brother in a freak motorcycle wreck, I could've been bitter, folded up my tent, and been
gone within 2 weeks...but I resolved "that's not for me". God still has
me here on Earth for a reason. I wasn't bitter about these going to be with The Lord...their work on Earth was done. And, I know that either by death or Rapture, mine will be as well.

I'm sorry for your loss. I truly am. I'm glad you're not bitter.

Yet, as the Apostle Paul notes "Eye hasn't seen, ear hasn't heard, or has entered into the heart of man...the things that God has prepared for those who love Him". I know Christians who died and went to Heaven, and were brought back to Earth, to witness to The Power Of God, and what is
in store for the believers. When Paul was stoned to death in Lystra, he was taken to Heaven, and saw the Glory of Heaven...but he was forbidden
to reveal them to us, saying "it's not lawful for a man to utter".

Again, relying on hearsay testimony is not going to make me think that your beliefs are true.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX

On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

But if you want to claim persecution and lament how I have issues wit you praying, you go right ahead. But know that it's not the prayer that offends me; it's the actions that those prayers evoke in those w do the praying.

I have prayed that God would open your eyes, and that you would see The Truth. But, if you don't even want to be prayed for, and you want nothing else to do with God or Jesus Christ, then I will grant you your request.
I will stop this thread anytime you want...or I may quit answering your messages.

God hasn't told you yet? He said that he wanted you to be the one to open my eyes. He said that you had to answer my questions as to WHY you believe as
you do. Not THAT you believe, or WHAT you believe. But to answer WHY. God says that that will be the way to do it. Now you are throwing in the towel without even making an attempt at it.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX

On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

This decree that you find yourself bound to makes no effort to examin whether or not these beliefs are true. This amounts to fraud.

Again, WHO WOULD DIE FOR A LIE??!! Millions through the ages, including the Apostles, died horrific deaths, rather than recant their faith in Christ. They could've easily recanted their faith and lived...but they chose death by such things as being burned at the stake, thrown to the lions, impaled, crucified, sawed in half, etc.

Are you kidding me? History is rife with people who have died horribly for a lie! How many soldiers have gone to their death fighting for a lie? Then
you have the gall to tell me stories that you have no way to determine if
they were true or not?

One day, we'll know who is right (the Christians or the non-Christians)... that fact can NOT be denied!!

There is no argument there. The problem is what do you do with this one life that you KNOW we have. Do you turn a blind eye on it and forsake it in lieu of a life you really have no way of knowing will come your way?

By faith, I know what's coming my way...and it's far better than what the life on Earth has been.

And what if you're wrong?

Just ask yourself. Why is there judgment at all? Why does there hav to be judgment? Why does there have to be a hell to punish the wrong does? Why can't this god just take everybody to its bosom no matter what? Why does your god keep a place of torment to keep people in line? What does it have to lose if you don't toe the line? How does it hurt it to do away with this place of torment?

Because The Lord Made The Rules. He created The Lake Of Fire for Satan and his demons...and for all those who reject The Gospel.

Do you not see what you are saying? Do we need to break it down for you
again?

That just illustrates to me that you have no desire for knowing the truth about your beliefs. When have you ever critically examined your beliefs? Where did they come from? How did you get them? What are t linchpins? What would happen if one of those linchpins of your faith were to be undone? Would you be prepared for the fallout if any of yo linchpins to your faith were ever removed?

In a word, faith. As I've said before, I've seen way too many evidences of God working in my puny life, that those trump any and all of your arguments.

You've seen evidence? Why are you being stingy? I've been asking you for evidence this whole time and you've not said one thing about it. This whole time you've been going on and on about the things that other people say about god, the mind of god and the stories of god, but you have evidence in your
back pocket and you refused to share it?

No one has yet been able to disprove anything from the Bible. While there are several prophecies that have not yet happened, they WILL occur.

Not one thing has been disproved? Not one single thing? How specific are these prophecies?

Again, WHO WOULD DIE FOR A LIE?? Would YOU die for something you knew
to be a lie??

No, I would not willingly die for something that I knew to be a lie. THAT IS WHY I WOULD DO ALL I COULD TO VERIFY THE TRUTH FROM THE LIE! If I'm going to die, I want to know it is for the truth, and not a lie. But some people will willingly believe a lie if it is couched in so much feel-good stories.

Since, you have no interest in what I have posted, I am not going to waste any more time with you. Jesus Christ said "By your fruits, you
shall know them", and your posts tell me that you want nothing to do
with The Gospel.

I keep telling you. I want to know WHY you believe what you believe. What evidence did you evaluate that raised it to the level of belief. You keep shrugging me off. You keep denying your duty. It makes me wonder whether or not you care if your beliefs are true or not.

In short, your blood is off of my hands.

So long as you feel good about your behavior, that's all that matters, isn't it?

Since you apparently want to pay for your own sins, go for it. Mine
are paid for by the Shed Blood Of Jesus Christ...and I can never thank
Him enough for what He did.

Cool story bro.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX

On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

That whole paragraph is simply an admission that you only care about your beliefs and not the truth. Where is the examination of your beliefs? There is none. There is only reaffermation.

Jesus Christ said "You shall know The Truth, and The Truth shall set
you free". I would refer you to "My Statement Of Faith", but your words show me that you are in no mood to hear The Gospel.

Gospel is the WHAT. I want to know the WHY. Why is the gospel true but all other beliefs are not?

But thanks for reaffirming to me that you are only concerned with reaffirming your beliefs and not challenging them. And how will we know our beliefs will come to fruition if we do not challenge them first?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX

On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

If you don't truly investigate your beliefs, you could one day be standing before Allah and then where would you be?

Allah is a Satanic counterfeit. The crescent moon is all over Islam. Muhammad wanted to create his own religion. He needed the backing of his powerful tribe, so he picked Allah, the moon-god, which they worshipped, to be the one god. And, he declared himself to be Allah's prophet.

In the 1950's, a major temple to the moon-god was excavated at Hazor
in Palestine. Two idols of the moon god were found, proving Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity. In the book "Islamic Invasion" by Dr. Robert
A. Morey, pages 211-218, there's a photo of Allah sitting on a throne, with a crescent moon on his chest. One of Muhammad's wives was a 6 year old girl, who he had sexual intercourse with.

So, on the day of Judgment, all the Muslims will be trembling, because they have been betrayed!!

But, there is a real God in Heaven, who died for all Muslims, and wants them to know the Truth. He is God the Father, God The Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Ghost. These three are the ONE TRUE God (1 John 5:7). Jesus Christ, the only begotten son of the living God, created the universe (Revelation 4:11). Every Muslim living today is breathing
because Jesus Christ gave them life, and they don't even know Him.

The Word Of God says "All things were made by Him (Jesus), and without Him, was not anything made that was made". Jesus Christ will judge all
who have ever lived...and on Judgment Day, "every knee will bow, and
every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the Glory of
God The Father" (Philippians 2:11). Even Satan and his demons will bow down in The Lake Of Fire, and confess that Jesus is Lord.

(The above 4 paragraphs are from the tract "Allah Had No Son" from
Chick Publications).

So you ARE sitting in judgment of people who are of god. Good for you. You
DO know the mind of god and you know exactly what god wants. And you do have opinions about what beliefs are true and what are false. Isn't it simply amazing that you were taught the one true truth by your mommy and daddy? How awful would it have been if you were taught the wrong beliefs from another peoples. I'm sure you would have figured it all out before it was too late, right?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX