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  • Re: Ack; another thread,

    From Dingo@VERT/ZHARVEK to Folsom on Wed Aug 28 15:42:00 2013
    As a general rule, I do not allow X servers on any server. Even if I application that I launch from a server, it should run on my display
    not on the real server. I have had several consultants not like my re
    when they wanted to install and run some management tool on the produ server.

    Unfortunately commercial unix products, such as IBM's WebSphere
    absoluately require it. Ok not *absolutely*, to make a "headless"
    install of IBM WebSphere requires "recording" an installation log
    thingie, thats xml, that you hand modify and run through some tool on
    the headless server after much muckery ... a whole lot of muckery, took
    me about 4 days to finish preparing, actually.

    Whereas if the target linux machine just had X, I could have just run
    the damn (eclipse & java-based) installer, instead.
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  • From Kc2ugv@VERT/KC2UGV to Dingo on Fri Aug 30 09:55:05 2013
    As a general rule, I do not allow X servers on any server. Even if I application that I launch from a server, it should run on my display not on the real server. I have had several consultants not like my re when they wanted to install and run some management tool on the produ server.

    Unfortunately commercial unix products, such as IBM's WebSphere absoluately require it. Ok not *absolutely*, to make a "headless"
    install of IBM WebSphere requires "recording" an installation log thingie, thats xml, that you hand modify and run through some tool on
    the headless server after much muckery ... a whole lot of muckery, took me about 4 days to finish preparing, actually.

    Whereas if the target linux machine just had X, I could have just run
    the damn (eclipse & java-based) installer, instead.
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    You do not need X to install IBM Websphere. You need some xlibs installed,
    but not the actual X Server. You can just redirect X to your local console,
    or use the answers.txt method for the silent install.

    I've done many a Websphere install on AIX, no X servers allowed on those machines. If you install the xclock or xterm package on the machine, it'll
    get the required packages; of which the X server isn't one of them.

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  • From Corey@VERT/TSGC to Kc2ugv on Fri Aug 30 12:14:09 2013
    Re: Re: Ack; another thread,
    By: Kc2ugv to Dingo on Fri Aug 30 2013 09:55 am

    As a general rule, I do not allow X servers on any server. Even if I application that I launch from a server, it should run on my display n on the real server. I have had several consultants not like my re when they wanted to install and run some management tool on the produ serve

    Unfortunately commercial unix products, such as IBM's WebSphere absoluate require it. Ok not *absolutely*, to make a "headless"
    install of IBM WebSphere requires "recording" an installation log thingie thats xml, that you hand modify and run through some tool on
    the headless server after much muckery ... a whole lot of muckery, took m about 4 days to finish preparing, actually.

    Whereas if the target linux machine just had X, I could have just run
    the damn (eclipse & java-based) installer, instead.
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    ■ [TN11.1] Archaic Binary

    You do not need X to install IBM Websphere. You need some xlibs installed, but not the actual X Server. You can just redirect X to your local console, or use the answers.txt method for the silent install.

    I've done many a Websphere install on AIX, no X servers allowed on those machines. If you install the xclock or xterm package on the machine, it'll get the required packages; of which the X server isn't one of them.


    What was the web server that came with netware for years?

    "Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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  • From Kc2ugv@VERT/KC2UGV to Corey on Fri Aug 30 20:41:16 2013
    Re: Re: Ack; another thread,
    By: Kc2ugv to Dingo on Fri Aug 30 2013 09:55 am

    As a general rule, I do not allow X servers on any server. Even if I application that I launch from a server, it should run on my display n on the real server. I have had several consultants not like my re when they wanted to install and run some management
    tool on the produ serve

    Unfortunately commercial unix products, such as IBM's WebSphere absoluate require it. Ok not *absolutely*, to make a "headless" install of IBM WebSphere requires "recording" an installation log thingie thats xml, that you hand modify and run through some tool on the headless server after much muckery ... a whole lot of muckery, took m about 4 days to finish preparing, actually.

    Whereas if the target linux machine just had X, I could have just run the damn (eclipse & java-based) installer, instead.
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    ■ [TN11.1] Archaic Binary

    You do not need X to install IBM Websphere. You need some xlibs installed, but not the actual X Server. You can just redirect X to your local console, or use the answers.txt method for the silent install.

    I've done many a Websphere install on AIX, no X servers allowed on those machines. If you install the xclock or xterm package on the machine, it'll get the required packages; of which the X server isn't one of
    them.


    What was the web server that came with netware for years?

    "Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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    Apache :)

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