Re: BSD
By: Sam Alexander to Darkhorse on Tue Jun 16 2009 02:55 pm

Hi.. thanks for the msg! A guy in our LUG is die hard FreeBSD and after his demos of Ports I could definitely see myself using it --- though Ports to me seems to work as well as apt on Ubuntu :)

As for Rob's Unix guide, it is great... I've used it numerous times to get Synchronet loaded on Linux, and like you I do have to install a few packages which isn't difficult at all with apt.

I guess one thing I'd love to see is a control panel for Linux/Unix like the Windows version of Sync uses. I first setup Sync on Windwos 2000 in 2000 an the Control Panel was nice. I can get the same stuff via command line optio in Linux, but having a GUI interface or even web-based interface would be co But Sync on *Nix rocks!

I have been playing around with Ubuntu as of late. I have tried to use Rob's guid to install Synchronet on my Ubuntu machine and I cannot seem to make it fly.

I think Ubuntu is coughing on the gmake statement... the ones found in the instructions given.

Do U have any suggestions???

Thanx

Joe

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Re: BSD
By: Ib Joe to Sam Alexander on Fri Jan 08 2010 10:52 am

I think Ubuntu is coughing on the gmake statement... the ones found in the instructions given.

I use ubuntu 9 and the gnu make is installed as make.
but you need to copy the GNUmakefile to makefile.
you also need to install some other packages also, like ncurses and
some others witch I forget off the top of my head.

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Re: BSD
By: Ib Joe to Sam Alexander on Fri Jan 08 2010 10:52 am

I think Ubuntu is coughing on the gmake statement... the ones found in the instructions given.

Try 'make' instead of 'gmake'.

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Re: BSD
By: Corey to Ib Joe on Fri Jan 08 2010 01:46 pm

I use ubuntu 9 and the gnu make is installed as make.
but you need to copy the GNUmakefile to makefile.
you also need to install some other packages also, like ncurses and
some others witch I forget off the top of my head.

It went further this time ... then it coughed out errors and stoped.

curs_cio errors, to many to mention.

Where do I get these extra files that I need??

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Re: BSD
By: Ib_Joe to Corey on Fri Jan 08 2010 06:37 pm

Where do I get these extra files that I need??

apt-get install {name of package}
also, you have to compile as ROOT.

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Re: BSD
By: Corey to Ib_Joe on Fri Jan 08 2010 07:36 pm

apt-get install {name of package}
also, you have to compile as ROOT.

How do U compile as root??

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Re: BSD
By: Ib_Joe to Corey on Sat Jan 09 2010 06:09 am

apt-get install {name of package}
also, you have to compile as ROOT.

How do U compile as root??

sudo apt-get install {name of package}

Then it will prompt you for your administer's password. Type that in and you're golden.

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Re: BSD
By: Access Denied to Ib_Joe on Sat Jan 09 2010 10:21 am

How do U compile as root??

sudo apt-get install {name of package}

Then it will prompt you for your administer's password. Type that in and you're golden.

What am I installing here... that file some messages back or the files for synchronet??

Joe

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Re: BSD
By: Corey to Ib Joe on Fri Jan 08 2010 01:46 pm

I use ubuntu 9 and the gnu make is installed as make.
but you need to copy the GNUmakefile to makefile.
you also need to install some other packages also, like ncurses and
some others witch I forget off the top of my head.

I will re-read the file and take some of these suggestions

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Re: BSD
By: Ib_Joe to Access Denied on Sat Jan 09 2010 06:53 pm

What am I installing here... that file some messages back or the files for synchronet??

I don't know. You asked the question. Probably the file some messages back, because you can't install Synchronet via apt-get, I don't think. Unless someone made a RPM package for it and got it put in the repos. I'm unaware of that happening, though.

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Re: BSD
By: Access Denied to Ib_Joe on Sat Jan 09 2010 10:35 pm

I don't know. You asked the question. Probably the file some messages back, because you can't install Synchronet via apt-get, I don't think. Unless some made a RPM package for it and got it put in the repos. I'm unaware of that happening, though.

no apt-get is to get the other packages that you need to compile synch on ubuntu.

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Re: BSD
By: Access Denied to Ib_Joe on Sat Jan 09 2010 10:35 pm

Re: BSD
By: Ib_Joe to Access Denied on Sat Jan 09 2010 06:53 pm

What am I installing here... that file some messages back or the files fo synchronet??

I don't know. You asked the question. Probably the file some messages back, because you can't install Synchronet via apt-get, I don't think. Unless some made a RPM package for it and got it put in the repos. I'm unaware of that happening, though.

axisd

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Re: BSD
By: Atari X to Access Denied on Sun Jan 10 2010 01:44 pm

Maybe Linux isn't the best choice for this person...?

thats what they said went windows came out.
and look at the learning curve for the win nt based oses.

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Re: BSD
By: Atari X to Access Denied on Sun Jan 10 2010 01:44 pm

Maybe Linux isn't the best choice for this person...?

Y be an ass and say that.

I have opened the box and I'm trying to learn the OS... I don't have the time to dedicate 100% but I am learning.

Barring any assholes, I have always found the Syncronet community quite helpful.

If you have something to say why not encourage or be uplifting... It takes the same amount of energy to be/do either.

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Re: BSD
By: Atari X to Access Denied on Sun Jan 10 2010 01:44 pm

Maybe Linux isn't the best choice for this person...?

Well if everyone always said that, noone would be using Linux. Everyone's gotta start somewhere, I guess. Though jumping right into it and starting servers
out of the gate, might be a bad idea. Learn the operating system first, then worry about other things.

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Re: BSD
By: Ib_Joe to Atari X on Sun Jan 10 2010 02:00 pm

Y be an ass and say that.

I have opened the box and I'm trying to learn the OS... I don't have the tim to dedicate 100% but I am learning.

Barring any assholes, I have always found the Syncronet community quite helpful.

If you have something to say why not encourage or be uplifting... It takes t same amount of energy to be/do either.

I'm not being an ass - I'm being realistic. Linux is a great operating system - believe it or not, I have been a Linux advocate at LSU for quite a few years now. I'm one of the reasons that LSU uses PDF files when distributing materials to students online instead of vendor-proprietary formats.

But, that said, I am a realist. Linux will provide you with little benefit if you are not familiar with using it. In fact, you are setting more obstacles
in front of yourself if you are not familiar with Linux (intimately) and with running SynchoNet.

I suggested that maybe Linux wasn't for this individual because perhaps attempting one major technical task was easier than attempting several technical tasks in a row. Linux is easier to configure now than ever before , but that still doesn't make it easy.


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Re: BSD
By: Access Denied to Atari X on Sun Jan 10 2010 09:34 pm

Re: BSD
By: Atari X to Access Denied on Sun Jan 10 2010 01:44 pm

Maybe Linux isn't the best choice for this person...?

Well if everyone always said that, noone would be using Linux. Everyone's go start somewhere, I guess. Though jumping right into it and starting servers out of the gate, might be a bad idea. Learn the operating system first, then worry about other things.

axisd

That's precisely my point. Get through one obstacle at a time...


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Re: BSD
By: Atari X to Ib_Joe on Mon Jan 11 2010 02:09 am

I'm not being an ass - I'm being realistic. Linux is a great operating syst - believe it or not, I have been a Linux advocate at LSU for quite a few yea now. I'm one of the reasons that LSU uses PDF files when distributing materials to students online instead of vendor-proprietary formats.

But, that said, I am a realist. Linux will provide you with little benefit you are not familiar with using it. In fact, you are setting more obstacles in front of yourself if you are not familiar with Linux (intimately) and wit running SynchoNet.

I suggested that maybe Linux wasn't for this individual because perhaps attempting one major technical task was easier than attempting several technical tasks in a row. Linux is easier to configure now than ever before but that still doesn't make it easy.

Maybe I'm the little train that could.

What I said still stands...

I play with computers for a few reasons... one is to learn a few things... and I don't lay down and die because of the size of the task.

The web site said that I can compile the source... and I tried and it didn't happen so I asked some questions.

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Re: BSD
By: Corey to Ib_Joe on Fri Jan 08 2010 07:36 pm

apt-get install {name of package}
also, you have to compile as ROOT.

Okay, I have a few questions.

How do I get into root. I have started some reading and I think it has something to do with sudo.

I tried your apt-get install command and it said I did not have the proper permision. There is a line in the install process that says the same...

ln -s /sbbs/lib/cryptlib/linux.release/*.so /usr/lib

If we can take it from this point I may be able to compile sbbs

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Re: BSD
By: Ib_Joe to Corey on Tue Jan 12 2010 07:46 am

Okay, I have a few questions.

How do I get into root. I have started some reading and I think it has something to do with sudo.

I tried your apt-get install command and it said I did not have the proper permision. There is a line in the install process that says the same...

ln -s /sbbs/lib/cryptlib/linux.release/*.so /usr/lib

If we can take it from this point I may be able to compile sbbs

In linux, the 'root' user is the superuser, the system administrator... I haven't paid much attention, but I know that ubuntu is a rootless dist, which may complicate things if that's what you use.

If you type 'su' and press enter, then it asks for a password, you have just become the root user and can do what you need to do. You can also 'sudo' each command to run a command as root. Example:

sudo apt-get install <packagename>

It will ask your password and install it if you have permission to execute commands as root.

That being said, try to make your symbolic link by preceding your "ln -s" instruction with "sudo", e.g.:

sudo ln -s /path/to/original/file /path/to/new/symbolic/link

Let me know if that all works out for ya.

esc(montereybbs/demonic/mimic)

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Re: BSD
By: Corey to Ib Joe on Fri Jan 08 2010 01:46 pm

Re: BSD
By: Ib Joe to Sam Alexander on Fri Jan 08 2010 10:52 am

I think Ubuntu is coughing on the gmake statement... the ones found in the instructions given.

I use ubuntu 9 and the gnu make is installed as make.
but you need to copy the GNUmakefile to makefile.

make -f GNUmakefile should work just fine. NO need to copy or rename GNUmakefile.

digital man

Snapple "Real Fact" #33:
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Re: BSD
By: esc to Ib_Joe on Tue Jan 12 2010 07:15 pm

Re: BSD
By: Ib_Joe to Corey on Tue Jan 12 2010 07:46 am

Okay, I have a few questions.

How do I get into root. I have started some reading and I think it has something to do with sudo.

I tried your apt-get install command and it said I did not have the prope permision. There is a line in the install process that says the same...

ln -s /sbbs/lib/cryptlib/linux.release/*.so /usr/lib

If we can take it from this point I may be able to compile sbbs

In linux, the 'root' user is the superuser, the system administrator... I haven't paid much attention, but I know that ubuntu is a rootless dist, whic may complicate things if that's what you use.

If you type 'su' and press enter, then it asks for a password, you have just become the root user and can do what you need to do. You can also 'sudo' ea command to run a command as root. Example:

sudo apt-get install <packagename>

It will ask your password and install it if you have permission to execute commands as root.

That being said, try to make your symbolic link by preceding your "ln -s" instruction with "sudo", e.g.:

sudo ln -s /path/to/original/file /path/to/new/symbolic/link

Let me know if that all works out for ya.

esc(montereybbs/demonic/mimic)

Ubuntu 9 has root. but the login in the gui is disabled so you don't trash your system. just add sudo to all your term commands.

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Re: BSD
By: Digital Man to Corey on Tue Jan 12 2010 06:20 pm

Re: BSD
By: Corey to Ib Joe on Fri Jan 08 2010 01:46 pm

Re: BSD
By: Ib Joe to Sam Alexander on Fri Jan 08 2010 10:52 am

I think Ubuntu is coughing on the gmake statement... the ones found in the instructions given.

I use ubuntu 9 and the gnu make is installed as make.
but you need to copy the GNUmakefile to makefile.

make -f GNUmakefile should work just fine. NO need to copy or rename GNUmakefile.

digital man

Snapple "Real Fact" #33:
Termites eat through wood two times faster when listening to rock music!

hmm, never thought of that.
now how do I rename all the synch files to lowercase?
I am about 75% switched over. even found a linux ELF version of my IREX 2.29


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Re: BSD
By: esc to Ib_Joe on Tue Jan 12 2010 07:15 pm

If you type 'su' and press enter, then it asks for a password, you have
just become the root user and can do what you need to do. You can also 'sudo' each command to run a command as root. Example:

sudo apt-get install <packagename>

Just some of my experience, if you're interested:

su doesn't do much on its own in Ubuntu. To get a root prompt under su takes a bit of work, and is definitely more hassle than it's worth. (Definitely more than I'd send a newcomer off to tackle.)

What I've found under Ubuntu is that it's far easier to create a user account for the BBS software ("bbs" works nicely), and compile under that account. You can actually build the full package without any need for sudo except to create the lib symlinks.

An additional benefit to this, for me, was that it kept the file system structure neat and tidy. Everthing under /home/bbs/sbbs for me, with room for external utilities not directly related to Synchro under /home/bbs. (Personal pet peeve is loading applications under the root directory, regardless of the OS. I can't stand the clutter, and still get incredibly frustrated when apps force me to install to C:\MYBADCODE or whatever.)

/tangent rant. (sorry)

I just compiled mine here a couple nights ago, and it wasn't without a little bit of Googling to track down the cause for a make error or two.

Now if I can just find the time to get dosemu working with the doors... *sigh* Gotta love crazy work hours.



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Re: BSD
By: Corey to Ib_Joe on Fri Jan 08 2010 07:36 pm

apt-get install {name of package}
also, you have to compile as ROOT.

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I think I fond out how to logon in root... still didn't compile. :(

I did find a local user group I may show up to the local AA meating after I come back from my next work cycle.

:)

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Re: BSD
By: Ib_Joe to Corey on Wed Jan 13 2010 07:23 am

Re: BSD
By: Corey to Ib_Joe on Fri Jan 08 2010 07:36 pm

apt-get install {name of package}
also, you have to compile as ROOT.

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I think I fond out how to logon in root... still didn't compile. :(

I did find a local user group I may show up to the local AA meating after I come back from my next work cycle.

:)

Joe

whats the errors?
did you install ncurses?

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Re: BSD
By: Corey to Digital Man on Tue Jan 12 2010 06:56 pm

Re: BSD
By: Digital Man to Corey on Tue Jan 12 2010 06:20 pm

Re: BSD
By: Corey to Ib Joe on Fri Jan 08 2010 01:46 pm

Re: BSD
By: Ib Joe to Sam Alexander on Fri Jan 08 2010 10:52 am

I think Ubuntu is coughing on the gmake statement... the ones
found in the instructions given.

I use ubuntu 9 and the gnu make is installed as make.
but you need to copy the GNUmakefile to makefile.

make -f GNUmakefile should work just fine. NO need to copy or rename GNUmakefile.

digital man

Snapple "Real Fact" #33:
Termites eat through wood two times faster when listening to rock music!

hmm, never thought of that.
now how do I rename all the synch files to lowercase?

Deuce posted a command-line (to you, iirc) using 'mmv' to do this.

digital man

Snapple "Real Fact" #107:
You burn more calories sleeping than watching TV.

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Re: BSD
By: Digital Man to Corey on Wed Jan 13 2010 01:16 pm

Re: BSD
By: Corey to Digital Man on Tue Jan 12 2010 06:56 pm

Re: BSD
By: Digital Man to Corey on Tue Jan 12 2010 06:20 pm

Re: BSD
By: Corey to Ib Joe on Fri Jan 08 2010 01:46 pm

Re: BSD
By: Ib Joe to Sam Alexander on Fri Jan 08 2010 10:52 am

I think Ubuntu is coughing on the gmake statement... the ones found in the instructions given.

I use ubuntu 9 and the gnu make is installed as make.
but you need to copy the GNUmakefile to makefile.

make -f GNUmakefile should work just fine. NO need to copy or rename GNUmakefile.

digital man

Snapple "Real Fact" #33:
Termites eat through wood two times faster when listening to rock musi

hmm, never thought of that.
now how do I rename all the synch files to lowercase?

Deuce posted a command-line (to you, iirc) using 'mmv' to do this.

digital man

Snapple "Real Fact" #107:
You burn more calories sleeping than watching TV.

I must have missed it. whats the command again?

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Re: BSD
By: Corey to Ib_Joe on Wed Jan 13 2010 08:24 am

whats the errors?
did you install ncurses?

seems like ubuntu is more trouble than it's worth, if ya'll would use a real *nix os (freebsd) you would'nt have this trouble, I've never heard of a unix box you coul'd utilize root in easily.. buillshit.


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Re: BSD
By: mrproper to Corey on Wed Jan 13 2010 07:53 pm

Re: BSD
By: Corey to Ib_Joe on Wed Jan 13 2010 08:24 am

whats the errors?
did you install ncurses?

seems like ubuntu is more trouble than it's worth, if ya'll would use a real *nix os (freebsd) you would'nt have this trouble, I've never heard of a unix box you coul'd utilize root in easily.. buillshit.

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I had no problem finding root. didn't even have to ROOT for it... lol
I did have problems finding out how to install the extra dev stuff synch needs.

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On 1/8/2010 8:52 AM, Ib Joe wrote:

I have been playing around with Ubuntu as of late. I have tried to use Rob's guid to install Synchronet on my Ubuntu machine and I cannot seem to make it fly.

I think Ubuntu is coughing on the gmake statement... the ones found in the instructions given.

Do U have any suggestions???

sudo apt-get install build-essential
...
make ...
...
sudo ln -s ...

As to the rest... ask when you get there...

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On 1/13/2010 5:53 PM, mrproper wrote:

seems like ubuntu is more trouble than it's worth, if ya'll would use a real *nix os (freebsd) you would'nt have this trouble, I've never heard of a unix box you coul'd utilize root in easily.. buillshit.

Until you want to run some multi-user dos doors on your bbs.. ;)

I will use the following when I want root.

sudo su

Though it's considered better form to sudo those processes that need it.

sudo md /sbbs
sudo chown YOURUSERNAME /sbbs

proceed until you get done with the build...
create a BBS, sbbs or synchronet user
sudo chown sbbs /sbbs

setup the services to launch. I think you need build-essential and ncurses-dev to build synchronet in Ubuntu, not sure what else.

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Re: Re: BSD
By: Tracker1 to mrproper on Wed Jan 13 2010 11:15 pm

On 1/13/2010 5:53 PM, mrproper wrote:

seems like ubuntu is more trouble than it's worth, if ya'll would use a re *nix os (freebsd) you would'nt have this trouble, I've never heard of a un box you coul'd utilize root in easily.. buillshit.

Until you want to run some multi-user dos doors on your bbs.. ;)

I will use the following when I want root.

sudo su

Though it's considered better form to sudo those processes that need it.

sudo md /sbbs
sudo chown YOURUSERNAME /sbbs

proceed until you get done with the build...
create a BBS, sbbs or synchronet user
sudo chown sbbs /sbbs

setup the services to launch. I think you need build-essential and ncurses-dev to build synchronet in Ubuntu, not sure what else.

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not to be confused with sudo ku

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Re: BSD
By: Corey to mrproper on Wed Jan 13 2010 08:16 pm

I had no problem finding root. didn't even have to ROOT for it... lol
I did have problems finding out how to install the extra dev stuff synch needs.

LOL, good.. I just thought it to be awful strange that a linux box would'nt have a root login.. just don't sount like a linux I would want to run.




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Re: BSD
By: esc to Ib_Joe on Tue Jan 12 2010 07:15 pm

In linux, the 'root' user is the superuser, the system administrator... I haven't paid much attention, but I know that ubuntu is a rootless dist, which may complicate things if that's what you use.

If you type 'su' and press enter, then it asks for a password, you have
just become the root user and can do what you need to do. You can also 'sudo' each command to run a command as root. Example:

I was able to get into the root... I still had errors during the compile, I would just assume that that is not a good thing.

Moreover, and more importantly, when I finish the process I cannot run scfg or sbbs.

I'll try a recompile and upload the errors for all to see.

Thanx for your help thus far. I have learned alot.


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Re: BSD
By: Ib_Joe to esc on Thu Jan 14 2010 08:41 am

Re: BSD
By: esc to Ib_Joe on Tue Jan 12 2010 07:15 pm

In linux, the 'root' user is the superuser, the system administrator... haven't paid much attention, but I know that ubuntu is a rootless dist, which may complicate things if that's what you use.

If you type 'su' and press enter, then it asks for a password, you have just become the root user and can do what you need to do. You can also 'sudo' each command to run a command as root. Example:

I was able to get into the root... I still had errors during the compile, I would just assume that that is not a good thing.

Moreover, and more importantly, when I finish the process I cannot run scfg sbbs.

I'll try a recompile and upload the errors for all to see.

Thanx for your help thus far. I have learned alot.

also read the synch unix docs. you also need to setup a link or 2

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Re: BSD
By: Ib_Joe to esc on Thu Jan 14 2010 08:41 am

Moreover, and more importantly, when I finish the process I cannot run scfg or sbbs.

try ./sbbs or ./scfg instead if you have'nt already.


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Re: BSD
By: Ib_Joe to esc on Thu Jan 14 2010 08:41 am

I was able to get into the root... I still had errors during the compile, I would just assume that that is not a good thing.

Moreover, and more importantly, when I finish the process I cannot run scfg or sbbs.

If you had errors during make, then those apps were probably not compiled.

There were a few extra packages I found required installation before the build would succeed under a stock Ubuntu install. Unfortunately, I didn't make note of them.

I distinctly remember having to install ncurses-dev and g++ though. (The base ncurses package does not include the header files required by the Synchronet package.)

If you've installed those, and still have errors, post those and I'm sure between the lot of us, we can get you built.


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because you can't install Synchronet via apt-get, I don't think. Unless someone made a RPM package

That would be a debian package, not rpm...

for it and got it put in the repos. I'm unaware
of that happening, though.

I, for one, have been working on a debian package for Synchronet, though I don't know that it'll make it in to the official repositories... (For instance, installations to /opt is no longer acceptable in the Debian repository...)




jame
http://rocasa.org/syncdeb

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LOL, good.. I just thought it to be awful strange that a linux box would'nt have a root login.. just don't sount like a linux I would want to run.

It can be configured that way; the main versions of the distribution just don't configure it that way by default.



Jame

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Re: BSD
By: mrproper to Ib_Joe on Thu Jan 14 2010 03:26 pm

Moreover, and more importantly, when I finish the process I cannot run sc or sbbs.

try ./sbbs or ./scfg instead if you have'nt already.

And if that doesn't work. Try setting your variable first.

export SBBSCTRL=/path/to/ctrl

axisd

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Re: Re: BSD
By: Jame to Access Denied on Thu Jan 14 2010 09:50 pm

I, for one, have been working on a debian package for Synchronet, though I don't know that it'll make it in to the official repositories... (For instance, installations to /opt is no longer acceptable in the Debian repository...)

Why would you want to install it to /opt? Why not either install it to your home directory, or have it make it's own home directory (maybe with a warning label that it's going to create a new user, or something)?

axisd

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I, for one, have been working on a debian package for Synchronet,
though I don't know that it'll make it in to the official repositories... (For instance, installations to /opt is no longer acceptable in the Debian repository...)

Why would you want to install it to /opt?

More precisely, into a subdirectory named something like synchronet...

Why not either install it to your home directory,

Which "your" are you referring to ? Keep in mind that this a debian package being installed.

or have it make it's own home directory

The /opt/synchronet directory (for instance) _is_ it's own home directory...

(maybe with a warning label that it's going to create a new user, or something)?

Well, the package install does create a user and group as part of the installation...




Jame

http://rocasas.org/syncdeb

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Re: BSD
By: Corey to Digital Man on Wed Jan 13 2010 01:47 pm

Re: BSD
By: Digital Man to Corey on Wed Jan 13 2010 01:16 pm

Re: BSD
By: Corey to Digital Man on Tue Jan 12 2010 06:56 pm

Re: BSD
By: Digital Man to Corey on Tue Jan 12 2010 06:20 pm

Re: BSD
By: Corey to Ib Joe on Fri Jan 08 2010 01:46 pm

Re: BSD
By: Ib Joe to Sam Alexander on Fri Jan 08 2010 10:52 am

I think Ubuntu is coughing on the gmake statement... the
ones found in the instructions given.

I use ubuntu 9 and the gnu make is installed as make.
but you need to copy the GNUmakefile to makefile.

make -f GNUmakefile should work just fine. NO need to copy or rename GNUmakefile.

digital man

Snapple "Real Fact" #33:
Termites eat through wood two times faster when listening to rock musi

hmm, never thought of that.
now how do I rename all the synch files to lowercase?

Deuce posted a command-line (to you, iirc) using 'mmv' to do this.

I must have missed it. whats the command again?

You can search the message bases for 'mmv' and find it.

digital man

Snapple "Real Fact" #113:
The fastest recorded speed of a racehorse was over 43 mph.

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Re: Re: BSD
By: Tracker1 to Ib Joe on Wed Jan 13 2010 11:10 pm

Do U have any suggestions???

sudo apt-get install build-essential
...
make ...
...
sudo ln -s ...

As to the rest... ask when you get there...

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I'll chew on this for a bit.

Thanx

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Re: BSD
By: Digital Man to Corey on Tue Jan 12 2010 06:20 pm

I use ubuntu 9 and the gnu make is installed as make.
but you need to copy the GNUmakefile to makefile.

make -f GNUmakefile should work just fine. NO need to copy or rename GNUmakefile.

digital man

This drives me nuts... I didn't see this in your setup instructions...

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Re: BSD
By: Corey to Digital Man on Tue Jan 12 2010 06:56 pm

hmm, never thought of that.
now how do I rename all the synch files to lowercase?
I am about 75% switched over. even found a linux ELF version of my IREX 2.29

where did U find the termcap file it looks for??

Thanx

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Re: BSD
By: Ib Joe to Digital Man on Tue Feb 02 2010 12:51 am

Re: BSD
By: Digital Man to Corey on Tue Jan 12 2010 06:20 pm

I use ubuntu 9 and the gnu make is installed as make.
but you need to copy the GNUmakefile to makefile.

make -f GNUmakefile should work just fine. NO need to copy or rename GNUmakefile.

digital man

This drives me nuts... I didn't see this in your setup instructions...

the linux sbbs faq is sort of old now.

Caput meum major podice meo.
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Re: BSD
By: Ib Joe to Corey on Tue Feb 02 2010 12:53 am

Re: BSD
By: Corey to Digital Man on Tue Jan 12 2010 06:56 pm

hmm, never thought of that.
now how do I rename all the synch files to lowercase?
I am about 75% switched over. even found a linux ELF version of my IREX 2

where did U find the termcap file it looks for??

Thanx

I never installed a termcap. works fine for me.


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Re: BSD
By: Ib Joe to Digital Man on Tue Feb 02 2010 12:51 am

Re: BSD
By: Digital Man to Corey on Tue Jan 12 2010 06:20 pm

I use ubuntu 9 and the gnu make is installed as make.
but you need to copy the GNUmakefile to makefile.

make -f GNUmakefile should work just fine. NO need to copy or rename GNUmakefile.

This drives me nuts... I didn't see this in your setup instructions...

You don't normally need to use the '-f' option.

digital man

Snapple "Real Fact" #126:
A pigeon's feathers are heavier than its bones.

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Re: BSD
By: Digital Man to Ib Joe on Tue Feb 02 2010 02:17 pm

Re: BSD
By: Ib Joe to Digital Man on Tue Feb 02 2010 12:51 am

Re: BSD
By: Digital Man to Corey on Tue Jan 12 2010 06:20 pm

I use ubuntu 9 and the gnu make is installed as make.
but you need to copy the GNUmakefile to makefile.

make -f GNUmakefile should work just fine. NO need to copy or rename GNUmakefile.

This drives me nuts... I didn't see this in your setup instructions...

You don't normally need to use the '-f' option.

digital man

Snapple "Real Fact" #126:
A pigeon's feathers are heavier than its bones.

hmm, i.e. get the F out of there.... lol
/

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To all my detractors... eat shit and die

I got SBBS to compile and I am now writing this message on the linix version of SBBS.

I'm going to slowly widdle at things to make it work the way I want it to.

I'll take a deep breath and move on from this point.

Thanx to those who gave me some pointers

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Re: Ubuntu
By: Ib Joe to All on Fri Feb 05 2010 02:45 am

To all my detractors... eat shit and die

I got SBBS to compile and I am now writing this message on the linix version SBBS.

I'm going to slowly widdle at things to make it work the way I want it to.

I'll take a deep breath and move on from this point.

Thanx to those who gave me some pointers

linux is great fun for all ages.

Caput meum major podice meo.
This message has ended, go in peace...

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Re: Ubuntu
By: Corey to Ib Joe on Fri Feb 05 2010 02:08 am

Re: Ubuntu
By: Ib Joe to All on Fri Feb 05 2010 02:45 am

To all my detractors... eat shit and die

I got SBBS to compile and I am now writing this message on the linix vers SBBS.

I'm going to slowly widdle at things to make it work the way I want it to

I'll take a deep breath and move on from this point.

Thanx to those who gave me some pointers

linux is great fun for all ages.

I love it... the learning curve is great though...

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Re: Ubuntu
By: Ib Joe to All on Fri Feb 05 2010 02:45 am

To all my detractors... eat shit and die

that's nice

I got SBBS to compile and I am now writing this message on the linix
version of SBBS.

linux?

I'm going to slowly widdle at things to make it work the way I want it to.

ok

I'll take a deep breath and move on from this point.

don't breath too hard, you'll suck in a bug.


--

Tim Smith (Mrproper)
WarZone BBS: warzone.synchro.net
BBSsearch : http://search.synchro.net

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Re: Ubuntu
By: Ib Joe to All on Fri Feb 05 2010 02:45:14

To all my detractors... eat shit and die

Harsh!

I got SBBS to compile and I am now writing this message on the linix version SBBS.

Linux.

I'm going to slowly widdle at things to make it work the way I want it to.

Whittle.

echicken
electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230

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Re: Ubuntu
By: mrproper to Ib Joe on Fri Feb 05 2010 09:57 am

Re: Ubuntu
By: Ib Joe to All on Fri Feb 05 2010 02:45 am

To all my detractors... eat shit and die

that's nice

I got SBBS to compile and I am now writing this message on the linix version of SBBS.

linux?

I'm going to slowly widdle at things to make it work the way I want it to

ok

I'll take a deep breath and move on from this point.

don't breath too hard, you'll suck in a bug.

--

Tim Smith (Mrproper)
WarZone BBS: warzone.synchro.net
BBSsearch : http://search.synchro.net

bugs fly into windows.
heck, if they can't fix it, they sell us a new version. i.e. Vista.

Caput meum major podice meo.
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Re: Ubuntu
By: echicken to Ib Joe on Fri Feb 05 2010 10:16 am

Re: Ubuntu
By: Ib Joe to All on Fri Feb 05 2010 02:45:14

To all my detractors... eat shit and die

Harsh!

I got SBBS to compile and I am now writing this message on the linix vers SBBS.

Linux.

I'm going to slowly widdle at things to make it work the way I want it to

Whittle.

echicken
electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230

or they mean Minix?

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Re: Ubuntu
By: Corey to echicken on Fri Feb 05 2010 16:26:06

I got SBBS to compile and I am now writing this message on the linix v

Linux.

or they mean Minix?

I now suddenly feel a strong urge to set up a BBS on a 286 running Minix. I hope it passes soon.

echicken
electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230

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I just got Ubuntu (32bit version), and I'm a bit out of my comfort zone here because I have been using nothing more than Windows.

I am using Windows 7 (32 bit), and I want to install it. Now I already tried it via booting from the cd (demo) only without installing the software. Before I install it in it's own partition (drive D) I am wondering if I install it in Windows 7 first will this damage my ability to boot back into Windows?

I guess what I am wanting to say is that if, and when I decide to do a full install, and I uninstall it from Windows 7 will it hurt my main boot file?

I'm very new to this whole linux thing, and I just don't want to damage my system in any way.

Can you folks also tell me some of the do's, and don'ts before I take this on?

Thanks ahead of time.

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The best advice I can give in your situation is to install VMWare player
or virtualbox and have at it as a virtual machine. Once you're
comfortable with whatever flavor of Linux you choose, you can (later on) either dual-boot or do a complete switch to a Linux environment.

Until then, virtual machines are the 'safest' bet without heavily
risking the integrity of an already existing machine.

(I realize that 'integrity' and 'Windows' is an oxymoron in some
circles, but that's a different discussion.)
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On 11/10/2011 03:32 AM, Mikesla wrote:

I just got Ubuntu (32bit version), and I'm a bit out of my comfort zone here
because I have been using nothing more than Windows.

I am using Windows 7 (32 bit), and I want to install it. Now I already tried
it via booting from the cd (demo) only without installing the software. Before
I install it in it's own partition (drive D) I am wondering if I install it in
Windows 7 first will this damage my ability to boot back into Windows?

I guess what I am wanting to say is that if, and when I decide to do a full install, and I uninstall it from Windows 7 will it hurt my main boot file?

I'm very new to this whole linux thing, and I just don't want to damage my system in any way.

Can you folks also tell me some of the do's, and don'ts before I take this on?

Thanks ahead of time.

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Re: Re: Ubuntu
By: Gandolf to Mikesla on Wed Nov 09 2011 04:08 pm

The best advice I can give in your situation is to install VMWare player
or virtualbox and have at it as a virtual machine. Once you're
comfortable with whatever flavor of Linux you choose, you can (later on) either dual-boot or do a complete switch to a Linux environment.

I'll totally agree with this.

(I realize that 'integrity' and 'Windows' is an oxymoron in some
circles, but that's a different discussion.)

And this. :)

--
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Re: Ubuntu
By: Mikesla to All on Thu Nov 10 2011 06:32 am

I just got Ubuntu (32bit version), and I'm a bit out of my comfort zone her because I have been using nothing more than Windows.

I am using Windows 7 (32 bit), and I want to install it. Now I already trie it via booting from the cd (demo) only without installing the software. Befo I install it in it's own partition (drive D) I am wondering if I install it Windows 7 first will this damage my ability to boot back into Windows?

I guess what I am wanting to say is that if, and when I decide to do a full install, and I uninstall it from Windows 7 will it hurt my main boot file?

I'm very new to this whole linux thing, and I just don't want to damage my system in any way.

Can you folks also tell me some of the do's, and don'ts before I take this

Thanks ahead of time.

Ubuntu, as most Linux distrubutions do, will install a bootloader, most likely called GRUB. The bootloader is installed and Ubuntu should configure it to allow you to choose which OS to install to. You will still be able to boot into Windows, but you'll get a GRUB bootloader menu where you can choose which OS.

The only thing I recommend doing, is backing up your Windows partition, just in case. I've installed Linux quite a few times, and never had any issues with it damaging Windows. You should be fine as long as you don't delete your Win partition.
If you have a partition, "Drive D" to install Linux on, you will need to delete it to create a Linux partition. This Drive D will be a Windows partition, and you need it to be a Linux one. So if you can, delete that partition now (ensuring its empty first!)
Then, when installing Ubuntu and selecting which partition, you'll have free space on the harddrive to create a new partition in. Create at least one to install Linux on, and one swap partition roughly equivalent to the amount of RAM you have.

I also use a seperate /home partition of several gigs, or more, a /tmp of about 1G and a seperate /var of about 4G. Making these partitions seperate is optional.


Linux is a bit of a learning curve, and I remember the apprehension about installing it the first time back in 2000, but its will worth it.

Let me know if this is a bit unclear.


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Re: Ubuntu
By: Mikesla to All on Thu Nov 10 2011 06:32:06

I just got Ubuntu (32bit version), and I'm a bit out of my comfort zone her because I have been using nothing more than Windows.

I am using Windows 7 (32 bit), and I want to install it. Now I already trie it via booting from the cd (demo) only without installing the software. Befo I install it in it's own partition (drive D) I am wondering if I install it Windows 7 first will this damage my ability to boot back into Windows?

I guess what I am wanting to say is that if, and when I decide to do a full install, and I uninstall it from Windows 7 will it hurt my main boot file?

I'm very new to this whole linux thing, and I just don't want to damage my system in any way.

Can you folks also tell me some of the do's, and don'ts before I take this

Thanks ahead of time.

Ubuntu now has an installer that works like any other program. If you get tired of it you can uninstall it like a regular program. I have been using it for several months now with no problems on XP.



A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!
MGH AKA Jeff Clayton

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Snod wrote to Mikesla <=-

Re: Ubuntu
By: Mikesla to All on Thu Nov 10 2011 06:32:06

I just got Ubuntu (32bit version), and I'm a bit out of my comfort zone her because I have been using nothing more than Windows.

I am using Windows 7 (32 bit), and I want to install it. Now I already trie it via booting from the cd (demo) only without installing the software. Befo I install it in it's own partition (drive D) I am wondering if I install it Windows 7 first will this damage my ability to boot back into Windows?

I guess what I am wanting to say is that if, and when I decide to do a full install, and I uninstall it from Windows 7 will it hurt my main boot file?

I'm very new to this whole linux thing, and I just don't want to damage my system in any way.

Can you folks also tell me some of the do's, and don'ts before I take this

Thanks ahead of time.

Ubuntu now has an installer that works like any other program. If you
get tired of it you can uninstall it like a regular program. I have
been using it for several months now with no problems on XP.

I did install it using the windows installer. I'm so new to this that it's down right embarrassing. It's like the good old dos days all over again, I guess thats one thing in my favor, I was raised on dos.

Thanks!

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Re: Re: Ubuntu
By: Mikesla to Snod on Thu Nov 10 2011 19:19:00

Snod wrote to Mikesla <=-

Re: Ubuntu
By: Mikesla to All on Thu Nov 10 2011 06:32:06

I just got Ubuntu (32bit version), and I'm a bit out of my comfort zone because I have been using nothing more than Windows.

I am using Windows 7 (32 bit), and I want to install it. Now I already t it via booting from the cd (demo) only without installing the software. B I install it in it's own partition (drive D) I am wondering if I install Windows 7 first will this damage my ability to boot back into Windows?

I guess what I am wanting to say is that if, and when I decide to do a f install, and I uninstall it from Windows 7 will it hurt my main boot file

I'm very new to this whole linux thing, and I just don't want to damage system in any way.

Can you folks also tell me some of the do's, and don'ts before I take th

Thanks ahead of time.

Ubuntu now has an installer that works like any other program. If you get tired of it you can uninstall it like a regular program. I have been using it for several months now with no problems on XP.

I did install it using the windows installer. I'm so new to this that it's down right embarrassing. It's like the good old dos days all over again, I guess thats one thing in my favor, I was raised on dos.

Thanks!

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Jeff Clayton wrote to Mikesla <=-

Re: Re: Ubuntu
By: Mikesla to Snod on Thu Nov 10 2011 19:19:00

Snod wrote to Mikesla <=-

Re: Ubuntu
By: Mikesla to All on Thu Nov 10 2011 06:32:06

I just got Ubuntu (32bit version), and I'm a bit out of my comfort zone because I have been using nothing more than Windows.

I am using Windows 7 (32 bit), and I want to install it. Now I already t it via booting from the cd (demo) only without installing the software. B I install it in it's own partition (drive D) I am wondering if I install Windows 7 first will this damage my ability to boot back into Windows?

I guess what I am wanting to say is that if, and when I decide to do a f install, and I uninstall it from Windows 7 will it hurt my main boot file

I'm very new to this whole linux thing, and I just don't want to damage system in any way.

Can you folks also tell me some of the do's, and don'ts before I take th

Thanks ahead of time.

Ubuntu now has an installer that works like any other program. If you get tired of it you can uninstall it like a regular program. I have been using it for several months now with no problems on XP.

I did install it using the windows installer. I'm so new to this that it's down right embarrassing. It's like the good old dos days all over again, I guess thats one thing in my favor, I was raised on dos.

Thanks!

Being a DOS user has paid off for me many times even on these new
Windows systems.

A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!
MGH AKA Jeff Clayton

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Re: BSD
By: Digital Man to Ib Joe on Tue Feb 02 2010 02:17 pm

Re: BSD
By: Ib Joe to Digital Man on Tue Feb 02 2010 12:51 am

Re: BSD
By: Digital Man to Corey on Tue Jan 12 2010 06:20 pm

I use ubuntu 9 and the gnu make is installed as make.
but you need to copy the GNUmakefile to makefile.

make -f GNUmakefile should work just fine. NO need to copy or rename GNUmakefile.

This drives me nuts... I didn't see this in your setup instructions...

You don't normally need to use the '-f' option.

digital man

Snapple "Real Fact" #126:
A pigeon's feathers are heavier than its bones.

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Re: BSD
By: Ronald Reid to All on Sun Jul 08 2012 09:04 pm

I use ubuntu 9 and the gnu make is installed as make.
but you need to copy the GNUmakefile to makefile.

make -f GNUmakefile should work just fine. NO need to copy or
rename GNUmakefile.

This drives me nuts... I didn't see this in your setup
instructions...

I hear you, it drove me nuts too, and I could swear I didn't see it in
the instructions, but there is a spot on the documentation that says
something about gnumake may be called make, if you read the fine details
of the packages, sometimes they'll say gnumake and install it telling you
it's called make, which was fine by me, provided that it worked like make.
If it's GNUMake renamed as Make, why not have it support all files as GNU
Make as is? There is versions of Make and GnuMake out there, Make is not
allways GNU Make, so if you want to make a Make version of GNUMake, then
in the installation, create a symbolic link to gnumake and have the program
check upon startup if it was called via make or gnumake and setup the
filename and command line appropriately, or just check for both files....
Good grief, Linux is *SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER*, not more aggrivating!

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Re: BSD
By: John Guillory to Ronald Reid on Tue Jul 10 2012 03:03 pm

Good grief, Linux is *SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER*, not more aggrivating!

I've never understood where this myth comes from.

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Re: BSD
By: John Guillory to Ronald Reid on Tue Jul 10 2012 15:03:07

Good grief, Linux is *SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER*, not more aggrivating!

Anything you know really well generally is better. :)

But not knowing something well definitly contributes to folks dislike of
said thing. :-)


--Chris

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Re: BSD
By: Deuce to John Guillory on Tue Jul 10 2012 04:48 pm

Re: BSD
By: John Guillory to Ronald Reid on Tue Jul 10 2012 03:03 pm

Good grief, Linux is *SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER*, not more aggrivating!

I've never understood where this myth comes from.

apples use bsd. from thier iphones to tablets to desktops.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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Re: BSD
By: Corey to Deuce on Tue Jul 10 2012 06:46 pm

Good grief, Linux is *SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER*, not more
aggrivating!

I've never understood where this myth comes from.

apples use bsd. from thier iphones to tablets to desktops.

Which, while incorrect, still has nothing to do with Linux or how it's supposed
to be better.

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