Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush said Tuesday that encryption makes it harder for law enforcement to track down "evildoers" - and called for a "much better, more cooperative relationship" with Apple, Google, and other tech companies that are building uncrackable private communication apps into their new products.

Jenna Mclaughlin
August 19, 2015 2:40 p.m.

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Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: physalis17 to All on Sat Aug 22 2015 02:23 pm

How is it in the 21st century, that we don't have a presidential candidate that knows anything about computers and technology?! I don't know which is worse, this or Hillary Clinton thinking wiping a hard drive requires a cloth! Absolutely aggravating!

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physalis17 wrote to All <=-

Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: physalis17 to All on Sat Aug 22 2015 02:23 pm

How is it in the 21st century, that we don't have a presidential
candidate that knows anything about computers and technology?! I don't know which is worse, this or Hillary Clinton thinking wiping a hard
drive requires a cloth! Absolutely aggravating!

You do know Clinton's remark was sarcasm.. :)


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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Bill McGarrity to physalis17 on Sat Aug 22 2015 07:35 pm

candidate that knows anything about computers and technology?! I don't know which is worse, this or Hillary Clinton thinking wiping a hard drive requires a cloth! Absolutely aggravating!

You do know Clinton's remark was sarcasm.. :)

it was a poor attempt at sarcasm and humor.
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Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: physalis17 to All on Sat Aug 22 2015 14:23:14

Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush said Tuesday that encryption makes it harder for law enforcement to track down "evildoers" - and called for a "much better, more cooperative relationship" with Apple, Google, and other tech companies that are building uncrackable private communication apps into their new products.

I think this mainly confirms what I already know/suspected. Long ago, I heard that the government got cell phone service companies to provide the government a back door into their encrypted connections so that the government could listen in to peoples' cell phone conversations. So I suppose Jeb Bush's comment comes as no surprise, except perhaps that Jeb Bush revealed that they actually are doing this.

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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Bill McGarrity to physalis17 on Sat Aug 22 2015 07:35 pm

candidate that knows anything about computers and technology?! I don't know which is worse, this or Hillary Clinton thinking wiping a hard drive requires a cloth! Absolutely aggravating!

You do know Clinton's remark was sarcasm.. :)

it was a poor attempt at sarcasm and humor.

I thought it was hilarious... to each there own..


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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Bill McGarrity to Mro on Sun Aug 23 2015 11:26 am

it was a poor attempt at sarcasm and humor.

I thought it was hilarious... to each there own..

i watched the video and didnt think she was funny. she was trying to avoid the question.

i think that if she would have played dumb further and strung the reporter along a bit, it could have been funny.
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On 8/23/2015 12:19 PM, Nightfox wrote:

Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: physalis17 to All on Sat Aug 22 2015 14:23:14

ph> Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush said Tuesday that encryption
ph> makes it harder for law enforcement to track down "evildoers" - and called
ph> for a "much better, more cooperative relationship" with Apple, Google, and
ph> other tech companies that are building uncrackable private communication
ph> apps into their new products.

I think this mainly confirms what I already know/suspected. Long ago, I heard
that the government got cell phone service companies to provide the government
a back door into their encrypted connections so that the government could listen in to peoples' cell phone conversations. So I suppose Jeb Bush's comment comes as no surprise, except perhaps that Jeb Bush revealed that they actually are doing this.

Evil villains always need to gloat about their nefarious plans!

Soon I will make myself the richest burgermeister in the world!

Doh!

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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Mindless Automaton to Nightfox on Mon Aug 24 2015 09:27 am

I hope that Clinton was joking. can't tell half the time with crap like sopa. jeb may have accidentally revealed what we already know about what the nsa is doing. but I don't think they give a damn.

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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: physalis17 to Mindless Automaton on Wed Aug 26 2015 03:24 am

Don't waste your time with Clinton? Watch Donald Trump!

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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Hustler to physalis17 on Wed Aug 26 2015 10:39 am

i am liking trump. at least he hasn't said something ignorant about computers. I am still not sure who I am voting for. Computer politics are important to me which makes me not want bush or Clinton. that much I am certain of.

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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Hustler to physalis17 on Wed Aug 26 2015 10:39 am

Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: physalis17 to Mindless Automaton on Wed Aug 26 2015 03:24 am

Don't waste your time with Clinton? Watch Donald Trump!

donald trump is such a fucking hoot. kicking that guy out of his press conference was great.
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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: physalis17 to Hustler on Wed Aug 26 2015 12:44 pm

i am liking trump. at least he hasn't said something ignorant about computers. I am still not sure who I am voting for. Computer politics are important to me which makes me not want bush or Clinton. that much I am certain of.

Apparently a lot of folks like Trump and that's a good thing.

HusTler

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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Mro to Hustler on Wed Aug 26 2015 04:39 pm

donald trump is such a fucking hoot. kicking that guy out of his press conference was great.

He certainly keeps things interesting. What will Donald say/do next?

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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Hustler to Mro on Fri Aug 28 2015 10:11 am

Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Mro to Hustler on Wed Aug 26 2015 04:39 pm

donald trump is such a fucking hoot. kicking that guy out of his press conference was great.

He certainly keeps things interesting. What will Donald say/do next?

he said hillary's top aid is not a good choice because she's the wife of anthony weiner.
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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Mro to Hustler on Sat Aug 29 2015 17:25:42

he said hillary's top aid is not a good choice because she's the wife of anthony weiner.

I saw that on the news. That guy Weiner is still around even after he was busted? And he's on Clinton's Team. Sup with that?

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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: physalis17 to Hustler on Wed Aug 26 2015 12:44:30

i am liking trump. at least he hasn't said something ignorant about computers. I am still not sure who I am voting for. Computer politics
are important to me which makes me not want bush or Clinton. that much I am certain of.

Just a little racism/prejudice to trade for it. That kind of kills the deal for me. Sanders is pretty smart.

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On 2015-08-23 04:02 PM, Mro wrote:

Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Bill McGarrity to physalis17 on Sat Aug 22 2015 07:35 pm

candidate that knows anything about computers and technology?! I don't
know which is worse, this or Hillary Clinton thinking wiping a hard drive requires a cloth! Absolutely aggravating!

You do know Clinton's remark was sarcasm.. :)

it was a poor attempt at sarcasm and humor.
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But her face is not a poor attempt.

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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Deavmi to Mro on Sun Nov 20 2016 07:09 pm

don't know which is worse, this or Hillary Clinton thinking
wiping a hard drive requires a cloth! Absolutely aggravating!

You do know Clinton's remark was sarcasm.. :)

it was a poor attempt at sarcasm and humor.

But her face is not a poor attempt.

hey, can you please stop replying to posts that are 1-2 years old
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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Deavmi to Mro on Sun Nov 20 2016 07:09 pm

don't know which is worse, this or Hillary Clinton thinking wiping a hard drive requires a cloth! Absolutely aggravating!

You do know Clinton's remark was sarcasm.. :)

it was a poor attempt at sarcasm and humor.

But her face is not a poor attempt.

hey, can you please stop replying to posts that are 1-2 years old
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hey, can you please stop replying to posts that are 1-2 years old

Why does that bother you so much? You seem to be the only one (or one of the few people) I see complaining about that.

Nightfox

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Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Nov 21 2016 10:49 am

hey, can you please stop replying to posts that are 1-2 years old

Why does that bother you so much? You seem to be the only one (or one of the few people) I see complaining about that.

loosen your spinctor.

i just think it's odd that someone is digging up just dumb threads from 2 years ago. replying to stuff that's not even of substance.
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Why does that bother you so much? You seem to be the only one (or one of the few people) I see complaining about that.

I don't really understand the problem with "necroposting" - particularly around here where we aren't exactly drowning in a flood of new messages. If somebody wants to revive a 10+ year old thread, I can't see the harm in it; it might lead to more discussion, and at worst it's just another message to scroll past.

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I don't really understand the problem with "necroposting" - particularly around here where we aren't exactly drowning in a flood of new messages. If somebody wants to revive a 10+ year old thread, I can't see the harm in it; it might lead to more discussion, and at worst it's just another message to scroll past.

I agree. It could be that someone has something new/different to say about a particular topic, regardless of how old the thread is. Or perhaps someone is a new user and just wants to add their 2 cents. And if someone creates a brand-new
thread with a subject that has been discussed before, there would likely be someone who says "This has been discussed some time ago already." So I suppose there would always be people commenting negatively about it either way.

Nightfox

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I don't really understand the problem with "necroposting" -
particularly around here where we aren't exactly drowning in a flood of new messages. If somebody wants to revive a 10+ year old thread, I
can't see the harm in it; it might lead to more discussion, and at
worst it's just another message to scroll past.

It's the zombie thread apocolypse! :D

Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)


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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Vk3jed to echicken on Thu Nov 24 2016 07:35 am

echicken wrote to Nightfox <=-

I don't really understand the problem with "necroposting" - particularly around here where we aren't exactly drowning in a flood of new messages. If somebody wants to revive a 10+ year old thread, I can't see the harm in it; it might lead to more discussion, and at worst it's just another message to scroll past.

It's the zombie thread apocolypse! :D

Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)

Shouldn't it be called "necroreplying"?

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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Digital Man to Vk3jed on Wed Nov 23 2016 03:47 pm

Shouldn't it be called "necroreplying"?

digital man

yeah probably
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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Vk3jed to echicken on Thu Nov 24 2016 07:35:00

I don't really understand the problem with "necroposting" - particularly around here where we aren't exactly drowning in a flood of new messages. If somebody wants to revive a 10+ year old thread, I can't see the harm in it; it might lead to more discussion, and at worst it's just another message to scroll past.

It's the zombie thread apocolypse! :D

Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)

Nonono, it's The Walking Thread ;)

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Digital Man wrote to Vk3jed <=-

It's the zombie thread apocolypse! :D

Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)

Shouldn't it be called "necroreplying"?

You're probably right. :)


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Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Nov 21 2016 10:49 am

Why does that bother you so much? You seem to be the only one (or one of the few people) I see complaining about that.

Yeah, it's not like we're downloading hundreds of messages over dialup, and some users may not have been lurking as long as MRO.

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Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
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Nonono, it's The Walking Thread ;)

We have a winner!

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Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Poindexter Fortran to Nightfox on Thu Nov 24 2016 10:30 am

Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Nov 21 2016 10:49 am

Why does that bother you so much? You seem to be the only one (or
one of the few people) I see complaining about that.

cause he wants access to all the mails that state that his wife looks like the cleaning lady from family guy... No..no...no...no..

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Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Poindexter Fortran to Nightfox on Thu Nov 24 2016 10:30 am

Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Nov 21 2016 10:49 am

Why does that bother you so much? You seem to be the only one (or one of the few people) I see complaining about that.

Yeah, it's not like we're downloading hundreds of messages over dialup, and some users may not have been lurking as long as MRO.

it just seems stupid and pointless for someone to dig up a 1-2 year msg to reply to something that had no real substance.
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