Is there a place I can get a news feed? It seems most services have a TOS that says you're the only one who can access that account, and many of the "free" only allow reading and not posting. Any help would be great!

Fireball
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Re: Usenet feed?
By: Fireball to All on Tue Feb 12 2013 22:08:45

Is there a place I can get a news feed? It seems most services have a TOS that says you're the only one who can access that account, and many of the "free" only allow reading and not posting. Any help would be great!

bbs-scene.org carries most everything apart from binary groups. Try signing up there - if Netsurge is around, he'll get you set up.

echicken
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Re: Usenet feed?
By: Fireball to All on Tue Feb 12 2013 22:08:45

Is there a place I can get a news feed? It seems most services have a TOS that says you're the only one who can access that account, and
many of the "free" only allow reading and not posting. Any help would be great!

bbs-scene.org carries most everything apart from binary groups. Try
signing up there - if Netsurge is around, he'll get you set up.

echicken
electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230

Ok thanks! I didn't realize they did peering as well. I'll contact them ASAP. -=Fireball=-

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Re: Usenet feed?
By: Fireball to All on Tue Feb 12 2013 22:08:45

Is there a place I can get a news feed? It seems most services have a TOS that says you're the only one who can access that account,
and many of the "free" only allow reading and not posting. Any help would be great!

bbs-scene.org carries most everything apart from binary groups. Try signing up there - if Netsurge is around, he'll get you set up.

echicken
electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230

Ok thanks! I didn't realize they did peering as well. I'll contact them ASAP. -=Fireball=-

I sent an email just waiting for a reply now. :)

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Re: Re: Usenet feed?
By: Fireball to echicken on Wed Feb 13 2013 08:19 am

Is there a place I can get a news feed? It seems most services
have a TOS that says you're the only one who can access that
account, and many of the "free" only allow reading and not
posting. Any help would be great!

bbs-scene.org carries most everything apart from binary groups. Try
signing up there - if Netsurge is around, he'll get you set up.

Ok thanks! I didn't realize they did peering as well. I'll contact them ASAP. -=Fireball=-

I'm using a free newsfeed called Eternal September, they carry all non-binary newsgroups, and seem very reliable. Far as I can tell, no limits, I poll for new messages about every 10-30 minutes, 24/7.

http://www.eternal-september.org/

Googling "Free newsgroup feeds" brought me to a bunch of sites that maintain lists of free newsgroup services with their limitations, if any. I'm pulling in all the Atari newsgroups, bbs related groups, rogue-like, arcade collectors groups, and pinball, which is by far the most active newsgroup, gets several hundred posts per day.
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Re: Re: Usenet feed?
By: Android8675 to Fireball on Thu Feb 14 2013 08:03:59

I'm using a free newsfeed called Eternal September, they carry all non-binar newsgroups, and seem very reliable. Far as I can tell, no limits, I poll for new messages about every 10-30 minutes, 24/7.

http://www.eternal-september.org/

I used to use Eternal September, too. Unfortunately they had a problem with not allowing posts from differnt aliases or accounts, so when I tried using that as a BBS usenet feed it didn't work for posting more than a couple of messages every 12 or 24 hours. As soon as posts came from different users a couple of times it'd disallow posts from your account for that long. I switched to the other one mentioned in this thread and haven't had the problem since.

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Re: Usenet feed?
By: Fireball to All on Tue Feb 12 2013 10:08 pm

Is there a place I can get a news feed? It seems most services have a TOS that says you're the only one who can access that account, and many of the "free" only allow reading and not posting. Any help would be great!

Fireball

what you CAN do is buy a block on astraweb and then only use it for
non binaries. it will never expire [as far as i know]. you might want to download a binary here and there to make it seem active.
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Re: Re: Usenet feed?
By: Android8675 to Fireball on Thu Feb 14 2013 08:03 am

Googling "Free newsgroup feeds" brought me to a bunch of sites that
maintain lists of free newsgroup services with their limitations, if any. I'm pulling in all the Atari newsgroups, bbs related groups, rogue-like, arcade collectors groups, and pinball, which is by far the most active newsgroup, gets several hundred posts per day.
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i tried those eternal september guys, they have a lot of rules and restrictions. for instance, i wasnt able to post under any other name, which i did when i posted my ads each month.all the info is in the header anyways, so i didnt see the big deal.

i tried bbs-scene's usenet but it seemed like i was missing msgs all the time. i dont know if it was cause of misconfigured spam checking or what. since this was a while ago it's highly likely he isnt having this problem anymore.

i just use astra, but i may quit them due to them taking down binaries due to dmca requests.
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Re: Re: Usenet feed?
By: Mro to Android8675 on Sat Feb 16 2013 09:30 am

i tried those eternal september guys, they have a lot of rules and restrictions. for instance, i wasnt able to post under any other name, which i did when i posted my ads each month.all the info is in the header anyways, so i didnt see the big deal.

Haven't seen that problem yet, but if I do, changing my newsfeed to point to someone elses feed is simple matter. Wish this was like the old days where the big guys actually carried newsgroup feeds. Ah well.
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Re: Re: Usenet feed?
By: Android8675 to Mro on Mon Feb 18 2013 08:42 am

Haven't seen that problem yet, but if I do, changing my newsfeed to point to someone elses feed is simple matter. Wish this was like the old days where the big guys actually carried newsgroup feeds. Ah well.

I keep telling myself to splurge and get a dedicated DSL line from a local provider for the BBS. A local ISP offers great service, 3 news servers, and static IPs for around $50/month. Pricey, but he's a real ISP - no caps, no blocked ports, nice features like MX forwarding and DNS.

He's kinda stayed in the 2000s, but real ISPs have become a niche offering now.

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Re: Re: Usenet feed?
By: Poindexter Fortran to Android8675 on Tue Feb 19 2013 09:49 am

Dude,

I keep telling myself to splurge and get a dedicated DSL line from a local provider for the BBS. A local ISP offers great service, 3 news servers, and static IPs for around $50/month. Pricey, but he's a real ISP - no caps, no blocked ports, nice features like MX forwarding and DNS.

That sounds like a dream come true. When I lived in the Bay Area I turned like 15 friends onto Astound Internet, a super fast alternative to Comsuck, though at the time I was not into Usenet, but at least Astound had enough bandwidth on their backend to support all their users. I hear comcast's got serious bottlenecks to the main backbone. Makes everything crawl during primetime.

Living in the borderlands these days, my options are limited, either sucky AT&T DSL, or Charter DSL, basically the same service over REALLY old copper lines.

it's hilarious though, Comcast calls me every 2-3 months asking if I want to setup. I always say Yes, because it takes them like 2-3 days to figure out that I'm not actually near their cable, and they seem too lazy to hook into the old abandoned cable line in my backyard.... that I dug up with my rotatiller...
and sold for scrap copper.
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Re: Usenet feed?
By: Fireball to All on Tue Feb 12 2013 10:08 pm

Is there a place I can get a news feed? It seems most services have a
TOS that says you're the only one who can access that account, and many of the "free" only allow reading and not posting. Any help would be great!

Fireball

what you CAN do is buy a block on astraweb and then only use it for
non binaries. it will never expire [as far as i know]. you might want to download a binary here and there to make it seem active.
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How do they feel about non-account email addresses being sent through their servers? I can't really find anything other than their unlimited plans only allow one IP at a time and their blocks doesn't. I mean, $10 for a 25GB text only feed would last a really long time.

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Re: Re: Usenet feed?
By: Android8675 to Poindexter Fortran on Thu Feb 21 2013 08:40 am

That sounds like a dream come true. When I lived in the Bay Area I turned like 15 friends onto Astound Internet, a super fast alternative to Comsuck,

I used them for some time, I liked that they delivered dial tone over copper. Speed was OK, their free on-demand movies were limited compared to Comcast, and they offered a low cap on internet - but handled it well. I think it was 30 GB/month, and if you went over a gig a day they'd cap your speed until the next day.

Support was great.

In the bay area, we have a couple of geek-friendly options.

Sonic.net has resisted warrantless search requests, offers good service, used to offer great news service, and their CEO responds on support forums. They offer phone, internet and hosting.

Rawbandwidth.com was my favorite - stripped down DSL service - no filters, no caps, basic service, static IPs and it stayed up FOREVER.

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Re: Re: Usenet feed?
By: Fireball to Mro on Mon Feb 25 2013 03:31 pm

How do they feel about non-account email addresses being sent through their servers? I can't really find anything other than their unlimited plans only allow one IP at a time and their blocks doesn't. I mean, $10 for a 25GB
text only feed would last a really long time.

what do you mean exactly?

you are trying to do account sharing? that is not allowed.
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Re: Re: Usenet feed?
By: Fireball to Mro on Mon Feb 25 2013 03:31 pm

How do they feel about non-account email addresses being sent through their servers? I can't really find anything other than their unlimited plans only allow one IP at a time and their blocks doesn't. I mean, $10 for a 25GB text only feed would last a really long time.

what do you mean exactly?

you are trying to do account sharing? that is not allowed.

Not really, but my original question was about finding a feed for my bbs. If someone wants to post to usenet off my bbs, what happens?

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Is there a place I can get a news feed? It seems most services have a TOS "free" only allow reading and not posting. Any help would be great!

what you CAN do is buy a block on astraweb and then only use it for
non binaries. it will never expire [as far as i know]. you might want to download a binary here and there to make it seem active.

Sorry I'm super-behind on my posts. I heard Teranews is okay for this -- you can set up a Rex gateway on your end and "gate" your BBS message area to Usenet that way. Wish I remembered the details.

Anyway they have a free plan with a one-time setup fee, as long as you're not downloading more than 50MB per day. Good way to get started.


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Is there a place I can get a news feed? It seems most services have a TOS "free" only allow reading and not posting. Any help would be great!

what you CAN do is buy a block on astraweb and then only use it for
non binaries. it will never expire [as far as i know]. you might want to download a binary here and there to make it seem active.

Sorry I'm super-behind on my posts. I heard Teranews is okay for this -- you can set up a Rex gateway on your end and "gate" your BBS message area
to Usenet that way. Wish I remembered the details.

I was thinking a newslink kind of setup, no rex involved. They have a big no sharing policy... No web-based access of any kind. I may try it anyway. What's the worse they can do? Ban me? lol

WTF? When did usenet become a tightly controlled commodity? I remember when it was free for all... But then, most usenet was run by colleges and universities back then... I may just start my own usenet/nntp style network and say screw the big guys.

Anyway they have a free plan with a one-time setup fee, as long as you're not downloading more than 50MB per day. Good way to get started.

I may go ahead and try it. $3.95 one time fee for a small feed (mostly alt.bbs and a few others) it won't be bad.

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Fireball wrote to Fred Smith <=-

Is there a place I can get a news feed? It seems most services have a TOS "free" only allow reading and not posting. Any help would be great!

what you CAN do is buy a block on astraweb and then only use it for
non binaries. it will never expire [as far as i know]. you might want to download a binary here and there to make it seem active.

Sorry I'm super-behind on my posts. I heard Teranews is okay for this -- you can set up a Rex gateway on your end and "gate" your BBS message area
to Usenet that way. Wish I remembered the details.

I was thinking a newslink kind of setup, no rex involved. They have a
big no sharing policy... No web-based access of any kind. I may try it anyway. What's the worse they can do? Ban me? lol

That's probably just end-user licensing. Basically, if someone could
spend a small amount, then gate to a large audience, it basically
end-runs their business model.

As far as "no web-based access of any kind", that sounds more like
Fidonet (or at least, how Zone 2 would like it to be). I'm not going
to go into THAT here...lol.

WTF? When did usenet become a tightly controlled commodity? I remember when it was free for all... But then, most usenet was run by colleges
and universities back then... I may just start my own usenet/nntp style network and say screw the big guys.

The network itself is very open. You just have to find the right feed
for your uses.

Have you tried bbses.info?


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Re: Re: Usenet feed?
By: Dreamer to Fireball on Thu Mar 07 2013 08:25 pm

WTF? When did usenet become a tightly controlled commodity? I remember when it was free for all... But then, most usenet was run by colleges and universities back then... I may just start my own usenet/nntp
style network and say screw the big guys.

The network itself is very open. You just have to find the right feed
for your uses.

Have you tried bbses.info?

you're thinking of bs-scene. i dont provide usenet access. i could but i dont see the point. i used frank's newsgroups for a while but it was missing a lot of posts here and there. that was a while ago so things might have changed.

i ended up doing a deposit on astraweb for like 25gigs and i use it for only newsgroup text, no binaries. it never expires.
i suggest you do that.
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Fireball wrote to Fred Smith <=-

I was thinking a newslink kind of setup, no rex involved. They have a big no sharing policy... No web-based access of any kind. I may try it anyway. What's the worse they can do? Ban me? lol

That's probably just end-user licensing. Basically, if someone could spend a small amount, then gate to a large audience, it basically
end-runs their business model.

I can understand the business side of things, but why make it so hard? These days, I can't imagine there's a lot of traffic there, other than binaries (legal and otherwise). What if my girlfriend wanted to use it? By their agreement, I'd have to pay for a second account. It's like the cable company coming in and saying each person in a house has to have their own account in order to view their programming. That's essentially what the Usenet companies are doing.

As far as "no web-based access of any kind", that sounds more like
Fidonet (or at least, how Zone 2 would like it to be). I'm not going
to go into THAT here...lol.

I haven't been involved in Fidonet in a very long time, so I'm not privy to
the goings on there. I've thought about rejoining, but I have very little experience with BinkD. Internet Rex doesn't work as well on Linux from what I have read, so I'd pretty much be stuck with BinkD.

WTF? When did usenet become a tightly controlled commodity? I remember when it was free for all... But then, most usenet was run by colleges and universities back then... I may just start my own usenet/nntp
style network and say screw the big guys.

The network itself is very open. You just have to find the right feed
for your uses.

Have you tried bbses.info?

I found a service that might be it. I emailed them and they pretty much said I could get a full text news feed (client style a la newslink) for $10/year and it would be fine to use on my bbs, since it'd be a small feed. It's at http://www.glorb.com/

-=Fireball=-

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