can anyone recommend which would make a better ccw between the ruger loco lc9 and the keltec pf9?

I have small hands. ..

ps loco wax a typo. darn. smartphone keyboard!

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Re: lc9 vs keltec pf9
By: SysOp to All on Thu Apr 11 2013 11:46 am

can anyone recommend which would make a better ccw between the ruger loco lc and the keltec pf9?

I have small hands. ..

ps loco wax a typo. darn. smartphone keyboard!

I like the buffalo arms 357 derringer.
but I have big hands so a 3 lb gun dont bother me.


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Re: lc9 vs keltec pf9
By: Corey to SysOp on Thu Apr 11 2013 04:09 pm

Re: lc9 vs keltec pf9
By: SysOp to All on Thu Apr 11 2013 11:46 am

can anyone recommend which would make a better ccw between the ruger loco and the keltec pf9?

I have small hands. ..

ps loco wax a typo. darn. smartphone keyboard!

I like the buffalo arms 357 derringer.
but I have big hands so a 3 lb gun dont bother me.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

Hehehe. Not my style.
Need something light, small for conceal carry, but min 7 rounds.
While the stopping power of .357 is good, it's too big and not enuough rounds for my liking.

Looked at the Baretta Nano and S&W Shield 9mm.
Both seem to bulky to me. When I watch people fire it they seem uncomfortable, not accurate...

The ruger, while much cheaper / plain looking, seems more comfortable to me and the kel-tec is very affordable.

Dunno.


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Re: lc9 vs keltec pf9
By: SysOp to Corey on Fri Apr 12 2013 01:21 pm

Re: lc9 vs keltec pf9
By: Corey to SysOp on Thu Apr 11 2013 04:09 pm

Re: lc9 vs keltec pf9
By: SysOp to All on Thu Apr 11 2013 11:46 am

can anyone recommend which would make a better ccw between the ruger l and the keltec pf9?

I have small hands. ..

ps loco wax a typo. darn. smartphone keyboard!

I like the buffalo arms 357 derringer.
but I have big hands so a 3 lb gun dont bother me.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

Hehehe. Not my style.
Need something light, small for conceal carry, but min 7 rounds.
While the stopping power of .357 is good, it's too big and not enuough round for my liking.

Looked at the Baretta Nano and S&W Shield 9mm.
Both seem to bulky to me. When I watch people fire it they seem uncomfortabl not accurate...

The ruger, while much cheaper / plain looking, seems more comfortable to me the kel-tec is very affordable.

Dunno.

how about a little tiny 5 shot 22 long cal revolver.
these were used mostly on beltbuckles.
around as big as my thumb.
maybe 2 or 3 of these.

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Re: lc9 vs keltec pf9
By: SysOp to All on Thu Apr 11 2013 12:46 pm

can anyone recommend which would make a better ccw between the ruger loco lc and the keltec pf9?

I have small hands. ..

ps loco wax a typo. darn. smartphone keyboard!

Not familiar with the ruger, but I carry a Keltec 9 - but I'm a big guy with big hands. My wife is much smaller - carries a Keltec 380. It's a great little firearm!


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Re: lc9 vs keltec pf9
By: Jimmylogan to Tower Master on Wed May 01 2013 08:03 am

Re: lc9 vs keltec pf9
By: SysOp to All on Thu Apr 11 2013 12:46 pm

can anyone recommend which would make a better ccw between the ruger loco and the keltec pf9?

I have small hands. ..

ps loco wax a typo. darn. smartphone keyboard!

Not familiar with the ruger, but I carry a Keltec 9 - but I'm a big guy with big hands. My wife is much smaller - carries a Keltec 380. It's a great litt firearm!

Not sure who posted this as SysOp. It wasnt me. But I would go for the 9mm myself powerful weapon and light weight. I guess it all depends on what you have in mind of shooting. ;)

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Re: lc9 vs keltec pf9
By: Tower Master to Jimmylogan on Thu May 02 2013 17:05:47

Not sure who posted this as SysOp. It wasnt me. But I would go for the 9mm myself powerful weapon and light weight. I guess it all depends on what you have in mind of shooting. ;)

Well, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by powerful, but the 9mm
doesn't have a whole lot in the way of stopping power when you compare it to .357 and up. In the military police corps of the army, where I had most of my training, the M9 9mm semi-auto was used as the primary duty weapon, and we were taught to definitely not just stop at putting one round into central body mass when trying to stop a potentially lethal [armed] suspect. It's far too easy for a person to just keep right on going after a 9mm round enters the torso, so long as it doesn't hit any primary circulation or nervous pathways. There are a lot of places, even in the general right vicinity of around the upper sternum area where a 9mm slug can slide between the large vessels and not cause enough damage to slow a determined aggressor down. Of course puncturing the lungs will still have an effect, but it may not be as much as you would like.

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Re: lc9 vs keltec pf9
By: Khelair to Tower Master on Fri May 03 2013 07:19 am

Well, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by powerful, but the 9mm doesn't have a whole lot in the way of stopping power when you compare it to .357 and up. In the military police corps of the army, where I had most of my training, the M9 9mm semi-auto was used as the primary duty weapon, and we were taught to definitely not just stop at putting one round into central body mass when trying to stop a potentially lethal [armed] suspect.

Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice.

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Re: lc9 vs keltec pf9
By: Poindexter Fortran to Khelair on Fri May 03 2013 10:37:15

Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice.

Exactly. As a tanker, our primary sidearm was an M9. If the 120mm tank round, .50 cal TC's weapon, or the two M240 machine guns or the single M4 in the tank didn't stop them the M9 was not going to be of much help.
The fun bits were when we had to "improvise" and turn the loader's 240 into an OP machine gun nest. Firing it out of it's little pintle mount was not fun but it sure as hell scared the crap out of the enemy.

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Re: lc9 vs keltec pf9
By: Poindexter Fortran to Khelair on Fri May 03 2013 10:37:15

Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice.

This is true. I would much rather have whatever I'm going to need to shoot at go down and stay down with the first round, though. Or if it's a really dicey situation, go down with whatever round I may hit it with, so that I don't have to keep myself in physical danger for longer.
All of this being said, the M9 9mm is still the handgun that I'm most proficient in and most comfortable shooting. Until I get a chance to train a lot more with other weapons, I'd probably pick that because for me it's what I know I'm going to do a damn good job putting lead downrange in the right place with.

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Re: lc9 vs keltec pf9
By: Khelair to Tower Master on Fri May 03 2013 08:19 am

Re: lc9 vs keltec pf9
By: Tower Master to Jimmylogan on Thu May 02 2013 17:05:47

Not sure who posted this as SysOp. It wasnt me. But I would go for the 9m myself powerful weapon and light weight. I guess it all depends on what y have in mind of shooting. ;)

Well, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by powerful, but the 9mm doesn't have a whole lot in the way of stopping power when you compare it to .357 and up. In the military police corps of the army, where I had most of training, the M9 9mm semi-auto was used as the primary duty weapon, and we w taught to definitely not just stop at putting one round into central body ma when trying to stop a potentially lethal [armed] suspect. It's far too easy for a person to just keep right on going after a 9mm round enters the torso, long as it doesn't hit any primary circulation or nervous pathways. There a a lot of places, even in the general right vicinity of around the upper ster area where a 9mm slug can slide between the large vessels and not cause enou damage to slow a determined aggressor down. Of course puncturing the lungs will still have an effect, but it may not be as much as you would like.

-The opinions expressed are not necessarily an advocation of any of the aforementioned ideologies, concepts, or actions. We still have the freedom speech, for now, and I enjoy using it in a satirical or ficticious manner to amuse myself-

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a
revolutionary act." -- George Orwell

When you compare 9mm to other carry options, like .380, .32 .25 .22 it obviously has more stopping power. I think that's the point he was making.


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