Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Lonewolf to MRO on Sat Sep 27 2025 03:38 pm

because my processor is blacklisted even though it meets the requirements. i was too lazy to change my processor and now so much
time has passed i'll just get a new desktop computer eventually.

I've bought several Dell 7050 and 3050 machines off of eBay that the processors are one generation too old. But if I turn on TPM 2.0 in
the bios, I can install a fresh copy of Windows 11 Pro and they run
without issue. They won't update from Windows 10, but they will
accept a fresh install. May be worth buying a new SSD and giving
it a try.

i'm not that eager to run windows 11. i have not hit any roadblocks and i'm not a big gamer. i can still play newer games most of the time as well.
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MRO wrote to Lonewolf <=-

i'm not that eager to run windows 11. i have not hit any roadblocks
and i'm not a big gamer. i can still play newer games most of the time
as well. ---

I prefer to use my mac than use my pc. All tech companies are evil, but I
find Apple less evil than Microsoft.

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Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Utopian Galt to MRO on Fri Oct 10 2025 03:07 pm

MRO wrote to Lonewolf <=-

i'm not that eager to run windows 11. i have not hit any roadblocks and i'm not a big gamer. i can still play newer games most of the
time as well.
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I prefer to use my mac than use my pc. All tech companies
are evil, but I
find Apple less evil than Microsoft.

the only problem i have with microsoft is one or more founders are
pedophiles.

i dont find the company evil, i know dos people loved to talk shit about microsoft. they just wanted our money, not our information like most companies now. but i think that is changing but they still are not as bad as google and the other guys.

futhermore they did a lot to fight botnets, even taking over domains . they forced windows users to get updates, which i know rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. for the greater security safety of everyone, this was a good thing.
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Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Utopian Galt to MRO on Fri Oct 10 2025 03:07 pm

I prefer to use my mac than use my pc. All tech companies are evil, but I find Apple less evil than Microsoft.

What about a Linux distro? I feel like that might be even less evil..

Nightfox

Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Nightfox to Utopian Galt on Sun Oct 12 2025 11:35 am

What about a Linux distro? I feel like that might be even less evil.

problem is its not easy. It needs to be dumbed down so a sixth grader can use it. I wanted to use linux to run my bbs, but im a slave to windows or i will need to get a os/2 licence and run EleBBS and fmail/2.

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Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Utopian Galt to Nightfox on Sun Oct 12 2025 11:53 am

What about a Linux distro? I feel like that might be even less
evil.

problem is its not easy. It needs to be dumbed down so a sixth grader can use it. I wanted to use linux to run my bbs, but im a slave to windows or i will need to get a os/2 licence and run EleBBS and fmail/2.

Seems to me that could be a good learning experience..? You could install Linux in a VM to play with it and learn before setting up your BBS on it.

Nightfox

Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Nightfox to Utopian Galt on Mon Oct 13 2025 04:41 am

Seems to me that could be a good learning experience..? You could install Linux in a VM to play with it and learn before setting up your BBS on it.

I wish I could learn Linux... I am just too damn old. The RAM doesn't refresh properly any more...

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Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Nightfox to Utopian Galt on Mon Oct 13 2025 04:41 am

Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Utopian Galt to Nightfox on Sun Oct 12 2025 11:53 am

What about a Linux distro? I feel like that might be even less
evil.

problem is its not easy. It needs to be dumbed down so a sixth grader c > UG> use it. I wanted to use linux to run my bbs, but im a slave to windows > UG> i will need to get a os/2 licence and run EleBBS and fmail/2.

Seems to me that could be a good learning experience..? You could install Linux in a VM to play with it and learn before setting up your BBS on it.

Nightfox

FreeDOS runs well in VirtualBox on Ubuntu. Then you can create telnet to comports from Ubuntu to VirtualBox. I've been playing with this setup to get some older BBS software running like Wildcat! and SBBS.

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Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Bf2k+ to Nightfox on Wed Oct 15 2025 05:03 am

I wish I could learn Linux... I am just too damn old. The RAM doesn't refresh properly any more...

It's all about how you want to spend your time/energy. Windows includes Linux now, so there's really a very low barrier to entry (cost-wise, at least).
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Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Runstop to Nightfox on Wed Oct 15 2025 09:47 am

some older BBS software running like Wildcat! and SBBS.

Gross.

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I wish I could learn Linux... I am just too damn old. The RAM doesn't refresh properly any more...

Bah! you just need a thesaurus, you already know the concepts.





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I wish I could learn Linux... I am just too damn old. The RAM
doesn't refresh properly any more...

This old dog doesn't want to learn new tricks. :P

Daryl

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Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Daryl Stout to Bf2k+ on Fri Oct 17 2025 12:22 pm

This old dog doesn't want to learn new tricks. :P

Well... I want to but it is hard these days. Not like it was when I was in my 30's and started learning computers.

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Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Bf2k+ to Daryl Stout on Mon Oct 20 2025 05:12 am

Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Daryl Stout to Bf2k+ on Fri Oct 17 2025 12:22 pm

This old dog doesn't want to learn new tricks. :P

Well... I want to but it is hard these days. Not like it was when
I was in my 30's and started learning computers.

i used to pick up things super quick. now that i'm an old man it's harder. i have been drug free and dont drink much. infact i started drinking when i
was 35. i think this happened because of covid. there's little differences in everything about me now.
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Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Tue Oct 21 2025 12:47 am

Well... I want to but it is hard these days. Not like it was when
I was in my 30's and started learning computers.

i used to pick up things super quick. now that i'm an old man it's harder.
i have been drug free and dont drink much. infact i started drinking when i
was 35. i think this happened because of covid. there's little differences in everything about me now.

I also learned very quickly in my youth. When I was in high school, I think I had a photographic memory. I never cracked a book and graduated top 5% of the class. Smoking pot in the 70's stopped the photographic part but I still learned pretty fast. When Personal Computers came along, the pot smoking stopped... I now had more important things to spend my little bit of disposable income on... :)

Unfortunately, Altzheimer's runs in my family. My 93 yr old mother does not even know who I am anymore... this worries me for the future.

But I am still going to try to get the wife and myself on Linux as soon as I retire and don't have to use Windows for my job. I have already put Mint on her old laptop so she can start getting ready... if I give her all her tools, she should be ok after a slight learning curve. I need to get M$oft out of my life permanently.

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Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Bf2k+ to MRO on Tue Oct 21 2025 02:52 am

Unfortunately, Altzheimer's runs in my family. My 93 yr old mother does not even know who I am anymore... this worries me for the future.

That's sad. :( Sorry to hear.

Nightfox

Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Utopian Galt to Nightfox on Sun Oct 12 2025 11:53:31

problem is its not easy. It needs to be dumbed down so a sixth grader can use it.

Well, Jethro, you might want to come out of that shack in the hills and take a look around. The Linux landscape has changed quite a bit. In fact, there's a distro just for sixth-graders liike you. It's called Zorin OS. It's a distro that closely mimics Windows 10/11, without all the MS gunk.

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i used to pick up things super quick. now that i'm an old man it's
harder. i have been drug free and dont drink much. infact i started drinking when i was 35. i think this happened because of covid.
there's little differences in everything about me now.
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But I am still going to try to get the wife and myself on Linux as soon
as I retire and don't have to use Windows for my job. I have already
put Mint on her old laptop so she can start getting ready... if I give
her all her tools, she should be ok after a slight learning curve. I
need to get M$oft out of my life permanently.

It's not that I'm that much of MSFT hater but it's cool when regular computer users try to adopt Linux and stay comprehensive about it.
I keep my fingers crossed.

I moved my wife away from Windows be she's on Mac now, which I don't believe is the same challenge.

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Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Digital Man to Bf2k+ on Wed Oct 15 2025 11:32:05

Windows includes Linux now, so there's really a very low barrier to entry (cost-wise, at least).

And that's about the best thing you can say about WinLinux. I've played with it and it was more frustrating than Arch or Gentoo.

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Hey Mortar!

On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 14:17:32 -0500, you wrote:

And that's about the best thing you can say about WinLinux. I've played with it and it was more frustrating than Arch or Gentoo.

While I completely agree with Gentoo, what in the world is so frustrating about Archlinux in this day and age?

Unless you refer to the old way of installing everything via a chroot environment, like Gentoo probably still does (you can still do it with Arch, but you don't actually have to if you don't want to any more)..

1) Boot from ISO
2) Install the package "archinstall"
3) Run it, configure your whole install via TUI, with lightbar menus even. Including choosing whether you want a desktop environment, or anything else to be picked out of the complete list Archlinux and the AUR have to offer. The script runs and installs/sets up everything for you.
4) Boot into your new install.

No need for compiling anything if you don't want to, and maybe one thing in the last 5 years that required a google search to fix (had to uninstall a package and reinstall it, or something).

Or would you just rather boot into something similar to Windows and have everything done for you via mouse click? Then I could see the argument. *shrug*

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Bf2k+ to MRO on Tue Oct 21 2025 02:52 am

Well... I want to but it is hard these days. Not like it was when I was in my 30's and started learning computers.

i used to pick up things super quick. now that i'm an old man it's harder. i have been drug free and dont drink much. infact i started drinking when i was 35. i think this happened because of covid.
there's little differences in everything about me now.

I also learned very quickly in my youth. When I was in high school,
I think I had a photographic memory. I never cracked a book and
graduated top 5% of the class. Smoking pot in the 70's stopped
the photographic part but I still learned pretty fast. When Personal

i used to skip school and just ace the tests. i didnt do homework. i ruined it for everyone. they made it so the homework mattered more than the final tests. i would just read the textbook before the test.
i graduated a year early.

Unfortunately, Altzheimer's runs in my family. My 93 yr old mother
does not even know who I am anymore... this worries me for the
future.

yeah you have a good chance of getting it. i guess they are having breakthroughs but you know how that goes with the medical community.
you hear about it and then you hear nothing.

But I am still going to try to get the wife and myself on Linux as
soon as I retire and don't have to use Windows for my job. I have
already put Mint on her old laptop so she can start getting ready...
if I give her all her tools, she should be ok after a slight
learning curve. I need to get M$oft out of my life permanently.

dunno, microsoft isnt so bad now since pedo bill gates and balmer are gone. they are certainly less evil than facebook and google.
i'm not sure what microsoft's goal is now. maybe ai development?
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Re: Linux for Dummies
By: Mortar to Utopian Galt on Tue Oct 21 2025 12:25 pm

Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Utopian Galt to Nightfox on Sun Oct 12 2025 11:53:31

problem is its not easy. It needs to be dumbed down so a sixth grader
can use it.

Well, Jethro, you might want to come out of that shack in the hills
and take a look around. The Linux landscape has changed quite a
bit. In fact, there's a distro just for sixth-graders liike you.
It's called Zorin OS. It's a distro that closely mimics Windows
10/11, without all the MS gunk.

i thought linux distros have been trying to be windows for the past 20 years.

people want that MS gunk.
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Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Mortar to Digital Man on Tue Oct 21 2025 02:17 pm

Re: Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Digital Man to Bf2k+ on Wed Oct 15 2025 11:32:05

Windows includes Linux now, so there's really a very low barrier
to entry (cost-wise, at least).

And that's about the best thing you can say about WinLinux. I've
played with it and it was more frustrating than Arch or Gentoo.

whats so bad about it? there's quirks but not many.
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Hello Bf2k+!

** On Tuesday 21.10.25 - 02:52, Bf2k+ wrote to MRO:

But I am still going to try to get the wife and myself on
Linux as soon as I retire and don't have to use Windows for
my job. I have already put Mint on her old laptop so she
can start getting ready... if I give her all her tools, she
should be ok after a slight learning curve. I need to get
M$oft out of my life permanently.

It seems "the internet" is upset with MS about their new
requirement to disallow windows 11 on entirely local machines
(ie. without accounts on live.com, full time internet access,
ads etc).


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Hi Accession,
In a message to Mortar you wrote:

*I'm still half asleep, and upon re-reading this I am babbling like a
crazy person but I'm hitting send anyway*

Or would you just rather boot into something similar to Windows and
have everything done for you via mouse click? Then I could see the argument. *shrug*

I've been distro hopping for a few months now. I have tried arch btw ;0

Currently my desktop is running Linux Mint. It's been stable, the box
runs Jellyfin for our media, and other then that it's my gaming rig.

This laptop is currently dual booting Fedora and Win11. The win11 install
is for BBS stuff (Until I get off my ass and configure HPT).

I think I'll be going all in with Fedora on both the machines as for me it
is working great and I wanted to go back to KDE for the desktop as it's
the one I prefer.

My arch review was pretty simple. As you said it was not hard to install,
it was fast etc. I don't have anything bad to say, I just didn't like
the pacman command lines. Yes that's a crazy reason to move to another
distro, but at this point in my life I want to at least like using my own computers. (At work for 8 hours a day I'm stuck with a highly locked down windows 11).

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hollowone wrote to Bf2k+ <=-

It's not that I'm that much of MSFT hater but it's cool when regular computer users try to adopt Linux and stay comprehensive about it. I
keep my fingers crossed.

I'm all in on Windows at work - managing 300 O365 users, Exchange,
SharePoint, Teams, PowerBI - I'm like a kid in a candy store with all of the things you could tweak.

I think it might be time to have some work/play separation and install
Linux at home. :)



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Re: need to get M$oft out of my life permanently
By: Ogg to Bf2k+ on Tue Oct 21 2025 11:35 pm

It seems "the internet" is upset with MS about their new requirement
to disallow windows 11 on entirely local machines (ie. without
accounts on live.com, full time internet access, ads etc).

yet they are on the internet.

I dont see any issue with requiring a microsoft account.
Furthermore, i dont see a problem with a lot of things microsoft does now, like requiring updates. for many years people wouldn't update and they'd be a botnet or have other issues and just point the finger at MS.
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Re: need to get M$oft out of my life permanently
By: Ogg to Bf2k+ on Tue Oct 21 2025 23:35:00

It seems "the internet" is upset with MS about their new
requirement to disallow windows 11 on entirely local machines
(ie. without accounts on live.com, full time internet access,
ads etc).

I wonder how one upgrades to Win 11 for a machine that doesn't have full time internet access, since it requires it?

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Hey Tiny!

On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 05:38:52 -0500, you wrote:

I've been distro hopping for a few months now. I have tried arch btw ;0

Sweet!

Currently my desktop is running Linux Mint. It's been stable, the box
runs Jellyfin for our media, and other then that it's my gaming rig.

Me personally, I have nothing bad to say about Mint. I've booted it up multiple times, and it looks and works great.

This laptop is currently dual booting Fedora and Win11. The win11
install is for BBS stuff (Until I get off my ass and configure HPT).

BBS stuff? I thought you were done with that? Or are you just referring to your QWK packet stuff?

I think I'll be going all in with Fedora on both the machines as for me
it is working great and I wanted to go back to KDE for the desktop as
it's the one I prefer.

That's why the Linux mantra is "choice". If you like it, use it! I don't think I could ever run anything Red Hat related, but to each their own, of course - and that's probably because I'm just not used to it or it's package manager.

My arch review was pretty simple. As you said it was not hard to
install, it was fast etc. I don't have anything bad to say, I just
didn't like the pacman command lines. Yes that's a crazy reason to move
to another distro, but at this point in my life I want to at least like using my own computers. (At work for 8 hours a day I'm stuck with a
highly locked down windows 11).

Completely understood. And with that said, have you tried Omarchy yet? :D

It's arch based, boots into Hyprland (which is the new craze these days, apparantly), and has it's own package manager.

I liked it quite a bit, except the fact that it was completely pre-made by someone else. So I wiped that VM, installed Archlinux via the archinstall script, which also installed Hyprland, and then installed these badass ml4w dotfiles from github:

https://github.com/mylinuxforwork/dotfiles

It's pretty amazing, to say the least. Also has a GUI package manager that not only updates the dotfiles when needed, but runs pacman for you without the need to type it in a console. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Hey poindexter!

On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 06:40:16 -0700, you wrote:

I think it might be time to have some work/play separation and install
Linux at home. :)

Bah, you've been saying that for months already. Just stick with Windows ya 'kid in a candy store'. LOL :)

Regards,
Nick

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Unfortunately, Altzheimer's runs in my family. My 93 yr old mother does not even know who I am anymore... this worries me for the future.

That's sad. :( Sorry to hear.

I've known so many families that have had to deal with that.

Daryl

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Re: need to get M$oft out of my life permanently
By: Dumas Walker to Ogg on Wed Oct 22 2025 08:49 am

Re: need to get M$oft out of my life permanently
By: Ogg to Bf2k+ on Tue Oct 21 2025 23:35:00

It seems "the internet" is upset with MS about their new requirement
to disallow windows 11 on entirely local machines (ie. without
accounts on live.com, full time internet access, ads etc).

I wonder how one upgrades to Win 11 for a machine that doesn't
have full time internet access, since it requires it?

they didnt say it requires full time internet access. just a live account.

and i think it's a non issue.
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