On 16 Aug 2023, drhenry said the following...

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from the state of the 'forum' section of the web interface, i'd say this board is severely misconfigured.

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Re: Re: +447477198855 Buy DHA-MOH-DOH-HAAD-OMSB-QCHP-SCFHS-SMLE-NHRA Prome
By: fusion to drhenry on Wed Aug 16 2023 05:27 pm

from the state of the 'forum' section of the web interface, i'd say this board is severely misconfigured.

Mmm, delicious spam.

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Re: Re: +447477198855 Buy DHA-MOH-DOH-HAAD-OMSB-QCHP-SCFHS-SMLE-NHRA Prom
By: candycane to fusion on Thu Aug 17 2023 01:09 am

Mmm, delicious spam.

Have you had the jalapeno flavor?

The bacon flavor is also pretty good.

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Re: Re: +447477198855 Buy DHA-MOH-DOH-HAAD-OMSB-QCHP-SCFHS-SMLE-NHRA Prom
By: Phigan to candycane on Fri Aug 18 2023 01:44 pm

Have you had the jalapeno flavor?

The bacon flavor is also pretty good.

I haven't had spam before, was making a joke ^^"

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Re: Re: +447477198855 Buy DHA-MOH-DOH-HAAD-OMSB-QCHP-SCFHS-SMLE-NHRA Prom
By: candycane to Phigan on Fri Aug 18 2023 08:49 pm

I haven't had spam before, was making a joke ^^"

You should find a Hawaiian place (or maybe an asian food court?) and have some spam musubi.

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Re: Re: +447477198855 Buy DHA-MOH-DOH-HAAD-OMSB-QCHP-SCFHS-SMLE-NHRA Prom
By: Phigan to candycane on Sat Aug 19 2023 05:38 am

You should find a Hawaiian place (or maybe an asian food court?) and have some spam musubi.

Not sure... I've heard bad stuff about how spam tasted.

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Re: Re: +447477198855 Buy DHA-MOH-DOH-HAAD-OMSB-QCHP-SCFHS-SMLE-NHRA Prom
By: candycane to Phigan on Sat Aug 19 2023 02:06 pm

You should find a Hawaiian place (or maybe an asian food court?) and have
some spam musubi.

Not sure... I've heard bad stuff about how spam tasted.

Why not try it for yourself and find out? I've had spam before and I thought it wasn't bad. It's all subjective.

Nightfox

Re: Food
By: Nightfox to candycane on Sat Aug 19 2023 04:39 pm

Re: Re: +447477198855 Buy DHA-MOH-DOH-HAAD-OMSB-QCHP-SCFHS-SMLE-NHRA Prom
By: candycane to Phigan on Sat Aug 19 2023 02:06 pm

You should find a Hawaiian place (or maybe an asian food court?) and have
some spam musubi.

Not sure... I've heard bad stuff about how spam tasted.

Why not try it for yourself and find out? I've had spam before and I thought it wasn't bad. It's all subjective.

doesn't it just taste like greasy ham?
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Re: Food
By: Nightfox to candycane on Sat Aug 19 2023 04:39 pm

Why not try it for yourself and find out? I've had spam before and I thought it wasn't bad. It's all subjective.

Maaaaybe?

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On 19 Aug 2023, MRO said the following...

Not sure... I've heard bad stuff about how spam tasted.

Why not try it for yourself and find out? I've had spam before and I thought it wasn't bad. It's all subjective.

doesn't it just taste like greasy ham?

i think it's better than it used to be but yeah :) bit weird it's a sort
of trendy food now. if i were using it for a sandwich i'd probably upgrade to pate or ham spread or something. and for frying, just plain old ham or sausage makes more sense *shrug*

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You should find a Hawaiian place (or maybe an asian food court?) and
some spam musubi.

Not sure... I've heard bad stuff about how spam tasted.

Why not try it for yourself and find out? I've had spam before and I thought it wasn't bad. It's all subjective.

Nightfox

I fry it and have it with scrabbled eggs. Makes a great combo. Don't let the looks of it scare you. It's actually pretty good stuff. But like you say, it's all subjective.

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Re: Re: Food
By: Cozmo to Nightfox on Mon Aug 21 2023 08:30 am

I fry it and have it with scrabbled eggs. Makes a great combo. Don't let the looks of it scare you. It's actually pretty good stuff. But like you

Yes, good stuff. Also try it on hawaiian pizza in place of the ham.

Musubi is pretty great, though. I mean, just do an image search and it looks so good!

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Cozmo wrote to Nightfox <=-

Why not try it for yourself and find out? I've had spam before and I thought it wasn't bad. It's all subjective.

I fry it and have it with scrabbled eggs. Makes a great combo.
Don't let the looks of it scare you. It's actually pretty good
stuff. But like you say, it's all subjective.

Absolutely a good combo. I like to add some white rice to that mix, and
it's a great breakfast. Or dinner, even.


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Yes, good stuff. Also try it on hawaiian pizza in place of the ham.

Musubi is pretty great, though. I mean, just do an image search and it looks so good!

Does look good. I definitely will have tor try it.
I've also put it in grilled cheese sandwiches.

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Re: Food
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Aug 19 2023 09:29 pm

doesn't it just taste like greasy ham?

Not really. It has a bit more sodium and the texture is kind of like a canned ham, but it's a unique flavor. Some folks like it (I do) but some don't..

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Re: Food
By: Dredster to MRO on Tue Aug 22 2023 11:42 pm

doesn't it just taste like greasy ham?

Not really. It has a bit more sodium and the texture is kind of like a canned ham, but it's a unique flavor. Some folks like it (I do) but some

SPAM stands for SPiced hAM. So it's got other spices in there!

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Re: Food
By: Phigan to Dredster on Wed Aug 23 2023 08:21 pm

Re: Food
By: Dredster to MRO on Tue Aug 22 2023 11:42 pm

doesn't it just taste like greasy ham?

Not really. It has a bit more sodium and the texture is kind of like a canned ham, but it's a unique flavor. Some folks like it (I do) but some

SPAM stands for SPiced hAM. So it's got other spices in there!

if you count sugar and salt as a spice.
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I fry it and have it with scrabbled eggs. Makes a great combo. Don't
let the looks of it scare you. It's actually pretty good stuff. But like you say, it's all subjective.

Hold on for a second. SPAM to me is a keyword associated with e-mail. I had no idea it may have meaning associated with food. I just googled. Is it that canned cheap ham thing that can be cut and consumed in sliced?

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Re: Re: Food
By: hollowone to Cozmo on Fri Aug 25 2023 01:06 pm

I fry it and have it with scrabbled eggs. Makes a great combo. Don't
let the looks of it scare you. It's actually pretty good stuff. But like
you say, it's all subjective.

Hold on for a second. SPAM to me is a keyword associated with e-mail. I had no idea it may have meaning associated with food. I just googled. Is it that canned cheap ham thing that can be cut and consumed in sliced?

You'd never heard of spam (food)? I find that hard to believe.. I had known about that long before 'spam' had started to be used to refer to junk e-mail.

There may be other brands & types of canned ham, but spam is a canned ham that can be sliced.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Food
By: hollowone to Cozmo on Fri Aug 25 2023 01:06 pm

Hold on for a second. SPAM to me is a keyword associated with e-mail. I had no idea it may have meaning associated with food. I just googled. Is it that canned cheap ham thing that can be cut and consumed in sliced?

-h1

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Re: Re: Food
By: Cozmo to Nightfox on Mon Aug 21 2023 08:30:00

You should find a Hawaiian place (or maybe an asian food
court?) and some spam musubi.

...

I fry it and have it with scrabbled eggs. Makes a great combo. Don't let the looks of it scare you. It's actually pretty good stuff. But like you say, it's all subjective.

I'll do the same. That said, Spam Musubi is one of my favorite ways to have it... think large spam sushi for those unfamiliar, usually seared with teriaki sauce.

Spam is just canned pork shoulder, the quality is generally better than most cheap deli meat actually.


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By: hollowone to Cozmo on Fri Aug 25 2023 01:06 pm

Hold on for a second. SPAM to me is a keyword associated with e-mail. I had no idea it may have meaning associated with food. I just googled. Is it that canned cheap ham thing that can be cut and consumed in sliced?

You'd never heard of spam (food)? I find that hard to believe.. I had known out that long before 'spam' had started to be used to refer to junk e-mail.

I don't think he is from the US so I can see not hearing of it.

Also, I am old enough that SPAM meant the meat product before I ever
learned what email was. If I had been born 15 or so years later, I may
have learned about spam email before the product.


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Also, I am old enough that SPAM meant the meat product before I ever learned what email was. If I had been born 15 or so years later, I may have learned about spam email before the product.

Honestly, I knew about the email first, but I learned about the meat through
a computer joke.

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Re: Re: Food
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sat Aug 26 2023 08:42 am

I don't think he is from the US so I can see not hearing of it.

monty python did skits on spam so people in europe know about it.
also it's popular all over the world.
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Hold on for a second. SPAM to me is a keyword associated with e-mail. had no idea it may have meaning associated with food. I just googled. it that canned cheap ham thing that can be cut and consumed in sliced

You'd never heard of spam (food)? I find that hard to believe.. I had known about that long before 'spam' had started to be used to refer to junk e-mail.

Certainly I know what spam literally is, just under different names in my own country, and believe or not, I just did not connect these two by the same English words. Please mind that this is my second language, so I still have either cultural or educational gaps in my vocabulary :)

But I keep learning every day.

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You'd never heard of spam (food)? I find that hard to believe.. I had out that long before 'spam' had started to be used to refer to junk e-ma

I don't think he is from the US so I can see not hearing of it.

That is indeed true. I lived in US for half of a year, but I totally missed that one for sure ;)

Also, I am old enough that SPAM meant the meat product before I ever learned what email was. If I had been born 15 or so years later, I may have learned about spam email before the product.

That's also true and thank you! :)

-h1

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monty python did skits on spam so people in europe know about it.
also it's popular all over the world.

It is.. but I have it under different brand names in Poland.

Anyway, last time I watched Monthy Python I did not watch it in English
too ;> Actually you just remind me that I should come back to it and retry this English humour in original version.

-h1

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monty python did skits on spam so people in europe know about it.
also it's popular all over the world.

It is.. but I have it under different brand names in Poland.

What is it called in Poland?


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Re: Re: Food
By: Dumas Walker to HOLLOWONE on Mon Aug 28 2023 09:43 am

monty python did skits on spam so people in europe know about it. also it's popular all over the world.

It is.. but I have it under different brand names in Poland.

What is it called in Poland?

it's called spam. but other guys have something that is liked a cured sausage in a can called mielonka, sez internet.
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What is it called in Poland?

It's called Polish Ham
and it's made by a company called Krakus.

Google all three words and check pictures.
I think this is something similar to your SPAM.

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Re: Re: Food
By: hollowone to Dumas Walker on Mon Aug 28 2023 11:14 am

What is it called in Poland?

It's called Polish Ham
and it's made by a company called Krakus.

Google all three words and check pictures.
I think this is something similar to your SPAM.

-h1

oh that's something entirely different. it's even mostly fat free!
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What is it called in Poland?

It's called Polish Ham
and it's made by a company called Krakus.

Google all three words and check pictures.
I think this is something similar to your SPAM.

The pictures that came up when I googled it look like actual ham. SPAM is
a canned ham product. There was one Krakus product that looked like a loaf
but it was wrapped in plastic. It could be similar.


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it's called spam. but other guys have something that is liked a cured sausage in a can called mielonka, sez internet.

Mielonka (mince) is just a mix of whatever was left in the butchery's floor and mixed again to sell. it can have sausage, bones.. fucking lowest quality of meat you can consider to put on your sandwitch... I'd not consider it for eating even if I was homeless drunk.

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The pictures that came up when I googled it look like actual ham. SPAM
is a canned ham product. There was one Krakus product that looked like
a loaf but it was wrapped in plastic. It could be similar.

Krakus is canned ham, but perhaps higher quality product than SPAM if I consider previous comparison to "mielonka". both exist in plastic wrap and cans.

I believe SPAM is SPAM and I may find some analogies in my local products, but maybe not exactly the same thing at the end.

-h1

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hollowone wrote to MRO <=-

Anyway, last time I watched Monthy Python I did not watch it in English too ;> Actually you just remind me that I should come back to it and
retry this English humour in original version.

Netflix had "Monty Python's Fliegender Zircus", it was the same show,
but not dubbed. They all spoke German with mediocre accents and
subtitles. It was absurd in the best way possible.



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Re: Re: Food
By: hollowone to Dumas Walker on Mon Aug 28 2023 10:50 pm

The pictures that came up when I googled it look like actual ham. SPAM is a canned ham product. There was one Krakus product that looked like a loaf but it was wrapped in plastic. It could be similar.

Krakus is canned ham, but perhaps higher quality product than SPAM if I consider previous comparison to "mielonka". both exist in plastic wrap and cans.

I believe SPAM is SPAM and I may find some analogies in my local products, but maybe not exactly the same thing at the end.

spam is not really just a regular canned ham. it's an entirely different product. there are a lot of differences.
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Re: Re: Food
By: Nightfox to hollowone on Fri Aug 25 2023 03:14 pm

You'd never heard of spam (food)? I find that hard to believe.. I had know

I bet lots of people who don't have English as their first language think SPAM refers to junk-messages only.

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Re: Re: Food
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Aug 30 2023 03:08 pm

You'd never heard of spam (food)? I find that hard to believe.. I had
know

I bet lots of people who don't have English as their first language think SPAM refers to junk-messages only.

True. I thought that Spam might have the same name in all languages, but I suppose that might not be the case.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Food
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Aug 30 2023 03:08 pm

Re: Re: Food
By: Nightfox to hollowone on Fri Aug 25 2023 03:14 pm

You'd never heard of spam (food)? I find that hard to believe.. I had know

I bet lots of people who don't have English as their first language think SPAM refers to junk-messages only.

spam is popular all over the world, though.
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Re: Re: Food
By: Nightfox to Arelor on Wed Aug 30 2023 03:05 pm

Re: Re: Food
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Aug 30 2023 03:08 pm

You'd never heard of spam (food)? I find that hard to believe.. I had
know

I bet lots of people who don't have English as their first language think SPAM refers to junk-messages only.

True. I thought that Spam might have the same name in all languages, but I suppose that might not be the case.

it does
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spam is popular all over the world, though.

I thought sailors liked it.

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Re: Re: Food
By: candycane to MRO on Thu Aug 31 2023 02:38 am

spam is popular all over the world, though.

I thought sailors liked it.

no, sailors eat good.
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no, sailors eat good.

Fair 'nuff

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Re: Re: Food
By: candycane to MRO on Thu Aug 31 2023 02:38 am

spam is popular all over the world, though.

I thought sailors liked it.

no, sailors eat good.

How would you know? Have you ever been a Sailor?



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I thought sailors liked it.

no, sailors eat good.

How would you know? Have you ever been a Sailor?

You too... such a perfect love! :)

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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Thu Aug 31 2023 07:50 am

MRO wrote to candycane <=-

Re: Re: Food
By: candycane to MRO on Thu Aug 31 2023 02:38 am

spam is popular all over the world, though.

I thought sailors liked it.

no, sailors eat good.

How would you know? Have you ever been a Sailor?

All my uncles were in the navy.

You have to feed sailors well to keep up moral.
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Re: Re: Food
By: hollowone to Gamgee on Thu Aug 31 2023 10:14 am

I thought sailors liked it.

no, sailors eat good.

How would you know? Have you ever been a Sailor?

You too... such a perfect love! :)

yeah this guy has been infactuated with me for years.
i recently removed my blocks so i'm seeing his every reply to my posts again.

he's some loser who has a mail order bride.
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hollowone wrote to Gamgee <=-

> > I thought sailors liked it.

no, sailors eat good.

How would you know? Have you ever been a Sailor?

You too... such a perfect love! :)

Not sure what you mean by this. My response had nothing to do with love,
or with not-love. It was just a couple of questions. Pretty simple,
even.

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MRO wrote to Gamgee <=-

spam is popular all over the world, though.

I thought sailors liked it.

no, sailors eat good.

How would you know? Have you ever been a Sailor?

All my uncles were in the navy.

Yeah, so was I. We ate well sometimes, but certainly not always.

You have to feed sailors well to keep up moral.

That's a small part of it, yes, but not all of what affects moral.
Probably not even the biggest part.



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MRO wrote to hollowone <=-

I thought sailors liked it.

no, sailors eat good.

How would you know? Have you ever been a Sailor?

You too... such a perfect love! :)

yeah this guy has been infactuated with me for years.

Hahaha, nope sorry, I don't swing that way, Karen.

he's some loser who has a mail order bride.

LOL, not sure how you even get that idea, but wrong again.

The same old story with you. ...<YAWN>...


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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to hollowone on Thu Aug 31 2023 08:34 pm

How would you know? Have you ever been a Sailor?

You too... such a perfect love! :)

Not sure what you mean by this. My response had nothing to do with love,
or with not-love. It was just a couple of questions. Pretty simple,
even.

<SHRUG>

it's because almost everytime i say something, you apparently take an attempt at a nasty shot at me. Normally i wouldn't object, but the attempts are so lame and that's why you have been on block for like 4 years or so.
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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Thu Aug 31 2023 08:41 pm

All my uncles were in the navy.

Yeah, so was I. We ate well sometimes, but certainly not always.

You have to feed sailors well to keep up moral.

That's a small part of it, yes, but not all of what affects moral.
Probably not even the biggest part.

well they don't call it comfort food for nothing. that's one of the few things they can give you in some circumstances. i would say everyone's overall attitude is the major factor of what affects moral. if they show they are
trying to make things better for people that helps.

my aunt was a pro chef and she said my uncle ate real well all the time.
that's probably from what he told her.

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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Thu Aug 31 2023 09:04 pm

he's some loser who has a mail order bride.

LOL, not sure how you even get that idea, but wrong again.

The same old story with you. ...<YAWN>...

dont you have some asian wife? though it i saw you on fb.
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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to hollowone on Thu Aug 31 2023 08:34 pm

How would you know? Have you ever been a Sailor?

You too... such a perfect love! :)

Not sure what you mean by this. My response had nothing to do with love,
or with not-love. It was just a couple of questions. Pretty simple,
even.

<SHRUG>

it's because almost everytime i say something, you apparently
take an attempt at a nasty shot at me.

Not really true. I sometimes respond to some of your blatantly wrong or outrageous claims, yes. Such as this one here where you claim to
somehow know that Sailors "eat good", even though you've never been a
Sailor. I have been a Sailor, for many years, and know that that isn't
true.

Normally i wouldn't
object, but the attempts are so lame and that's why you have been
on block for like 4 years or so.

Yeah, OK. Whatever blows your dress up.


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MRO wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Thu Aug 31 2023 08:41 pm

All my uncles were in the navy.

Yeah, so was I. We ate well sometimes, but certainly not always.

You have to feed sailors well to keep up moral.

That's a small part of it, yes, but not all of what affects moral.
Probably not even the biggest part.

well they don't call it comfort food for nothing. that's one of
the few things they can give you in some circumstances. i would
say everyone's overall attitude is the major factor of what
affects moral. if they show they are trying to make things better
for people that helps.

All of that is true. It's "morale" by the way. Moral is a completely different word and meaning.

my aunt was a pro chef and she said my uncle ate real well all
the time. that's probably from what he told her.

Well if she was a chef then perhaps she meant that he ate well when he
was around her (at home). One other big question here is to know what
part of the Navy this uncle was in. Was he a recruiter or counselor or something, that worked a 9-to-5 office job on shore somewhere? If he
was an actual Fleet Sailor, he didn't always eat good, I promise you.


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MRO wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Thu Aug 31 2023 09:04 pm

he's some loser who has a mail order bride.

LOL, not sure how you even get that idea, but wrong again.
The same old story with you. ...<YAWN>...

dont you have some asian wife? though it i saw you on fb.

I do. What does that have to do with "mail order bride"? You think
those two things are the same?



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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 07:53 am

All of that is true. It's "morale" by the way. Moral is a completely

To be fair, you also spelled it "moral" in one of your rsponses to mro...

Nightfox

Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 07:45 am

Not really true. I sometimes respond to some of your blatantly wrong or outrageous claims, yes. Such as this one here where you claim to
somehow know that Sailors "eat good", even though you've never been a Sailor. I have been a Sailor, for many years, and know that that isn't true.

that's what my aunt and uncle told me. both my uncles were lifers.
maybe they just didn't like you.
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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 07:53 am

affects moral. if they show they are trying to make things better
for people that helps.

All of that is true. It's "morale" by the way. Moral is a completely different word and meaning.

whatever, i was drunk and i type fast as fuck.

you never miss a chance to say something nasty.

Well if she was a chef then perhaps she meant that he ate well when he
was around her (at home). One other big question here is to know what

no she didn't mean that.

was around her (at home). One other big question here is to know what
part of the Navy this uncle was in. Was he a recruiter or counselor or something, that worked a 9-to-5 office job on shore somewhere? If he
was an actual Fleet Sailor, he didn't always eat good, I promise you.

nope he wasn't in office. when she made that statement, he agreed with her.
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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 07:55 am

dont you have some asian wife? though it i saw you on fb.

I do. What does that have to do with "mail order bride"? You think
those two things are the same?

for you it is! haw!
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Re: Re: Food
By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Fri Sep 01 2023 08:49 am

Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 07:53 am

All of that is true. It's "morale" by the way. Moral is a completely

To be fair, you also spelled it "moral" in one of your rsponses to mro...

Nightfox

honestly we are all just casually talking here, and we're all educated.
it's pretty anal to correct eachother's spellings and grammar.
someone that does that is scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

i don't capitalize words and sometimes i dont use apostrophes.
really, who cares.
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MRO wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 07:55 am

dont you have some asian wife? though it i saw you on fb.

I do. What does that have to do with "mail order bride"? You think
those two things are the same?

for you it is! haw!

You're still wrong, doofus.



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How would you know? Have you ever been a Sailor?

All my uncles were in the navy.

You have to feed sailors well to keep up moral.

The sailors on at least one of the Great Lakes' freighter lines also eat
well. I see their posts on FB and usually wish I was having what they are having.


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MRO wrote to hollowone <=-

spam is not really just a regular canned ham. it's an entirely
different product. there are a lot of differences.

Libby's used to make a copycat, with the description "potted meat food
product". They didn't put a lot of marketing into it.




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Arelor wrote to Nightfox <=-

You'd never heard of spam (food)? I find that hard to believe.. I had know

I bet lots of people who don't have English as their first language
think SPAM refers to junk-messages only.

The term HAM has fallen by the wayside. HAM was legitimate email caught
in a SPAM filter.



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candycane wrote to MRO <=-

I thought sailors liked it.

SPAM was used by the military in the pacific theater of operations in
WWII since it was easy to keep unrefrigerated. It's still popular in
pacific islander cuisine, and Hawaii is the highest consumer of SPAM by
state.

BTW, it was originally called "SPiced hAM", capitalism mine.



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Gamgee wrote to MRO <=-

I thought sailors liked it.

no, sailors eat good.

How would you know? Have you ever been a Sailor?

No, but he ate one once. Tasted like SPAM.




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MRO wrote to Gamgee <=-

You have to feed sailors well to keep up moral.

And caffeinated. My father kept this country safe by peeling potatoes
and making coffee on a minesweeper in the far east.

The Navy takes their coffee very seriously.



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Re: Re: Food
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 02:05 pm

How would you know? Have you ever been a Sailor?

All my uncles were in the navy.

You have to feed sailors well to keep up moral.

The sailors on at least one of the Great Lakes' freighter lines also eat well. I see their posts on FB and usually wish I was having what they are having.

you know who else eats good. the foreign legion. they walk everywhere but i was watching them on tv and fuckers were having pheasant underglass in the damn jungle.

or they were bullshitting for the cameras.

i'm watching some youtube vids now of the greatlakes freighters. they look like they have some great living quarters with wifi. everyone looks happy. they are making good money but gone a lot.
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Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 06:28 am

MRO wrote to hollowone <=-

spam is not really just a regular canned ham. it's an entirely different product. there are a lot of differences.

Libby's used to make a copycat, with the description "potted meat food
product". They didn't put a lot of marketing into it.

it looks like that company is still kicking but in has it's name licensed out for the most part.

i did see their sausage gravy(for biscuits and gravy) at walmart and it was totally disgusting.
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Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Gamgee on Fri Sep 01 2023 06:34 am

Gamgee wrote to MRO <=-

I thought sailors liked it.

no, sailors eat good.

How would you know? Have you ever been a Sailor?

No, but he ate one once. Tasted like SPAM.

you would be the sailor eater, fruit loop

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Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 06:36 am

MRO wrote to Gamgee <=-

You have to feed sailors well to keep up moral.

And caffeinated. My father kept this country safe by peeling potatoes
and making coffee on a minesweeper in the far east.

The Navy takes their coffee very seriously.

oh yeah we had a service tech who came straight from the navy.
they were very picky about coffee. they added salt to it to increase flavor, too.
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pacific islander cuisine, and Hawaii is the highest consumer of SPAM by state.

Thats probably why I thought it was used by sailors..

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Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 06:36 am

MRO wrote to Gamgee <=-

You have to feed sailors well to keep up moral.

And caffeinated. My father kept this country safe by peeling potatoes
and making coffee on a minesweeper in the far east.

Every job is important, and thanks to him for doing that.

The Navy takes their coffee very seriously.

Oh yes. When you average 3-4 hours of sleep per day, for 6-8 months at a time while on a ship deployed, coffee is life.

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You too... such a perfect love! :)

Not sure what you mean by this. My response had nothing to do with
love, or with not-love. It was just a couple of questions. Pretty simple, even.

Sir, I respect all kinds of verbal and articulative nastiness as long as it's intelligent, crisp and on point. No fluffing and no playing an idiot, unless you want to be perceived like one.

I've read many times you two argue and I'm sure many times you could feel victimized by your opponent's style.. if that can be called that way.

Still provoking another round, without being invited to fight and playing stupid at the end, makes you an idiot who hasn't yet realized what Stockholm Syndrome is.

Sometimes it's just better to let it go, you know? Especially when you spotted 3rd party observers who just see this ain't binary anymore.

-h1

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yeah this guy has been infactuated with me for years.

I know, I've spotted it. I'm also sure there is a root cause for that, you may remember.

-h1

... Xerox Alto was the thing. Anything after we use is just a mere copy.

honestly we are all just casually talking here, and we're all educated.

I wrote "You too", instead of "You, two" when I ignited this commentary :>

it's pretty anal to correct eachother's spellings and grammar.
someone that does that is scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

Calling something ridiculous per "anal"... I find this brutal, but hilarious :)

-h1

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Re: Re: Food
By: hollowone to Gamgee on Sun Sep 03 2023 11:33 am

victimized by your opponent's style.. if that can be called that way.

Still provoking another round, without being invited to fight and playing

i had him on block most of the time so it was usually just him
jaw waggin
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Re: Re: Food
By: hollowone to MRO on Sun Sep 03 2023 11:40 am

yeah this guy has been infactuated with me for years.

I know, I've spotted it. I'm also sure there is a root cause for that, you may remember.

-h1

absolutely not. i think he's a 'me too' type guy. https://www.flamewarriorsguide.com/warriorshtm/bigdogmetoo.htm
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MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

i did see their sausage gravy(for biscuits and gravy) at walmart and it was totally disgusting.

I think I've had that at some bad diners. Sausage gravy is so easy to
make and cheap, I couldn't imagine saving a couple of pennies to be
worth it.



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MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

No, but he ate one once. Tasted like SPAM.

you would be the sailor eater, fruit loop

The "I know you are, but what am I?" gambit - a risky play, I wonder how
it will play out for you.



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Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Oh yes. When you average 3-4 hours of sleep per day, for 6-8 months at
a time while on a ship deployed, coffee is life.

The key was to make it strong, add salt (or eggshells!) to take out some
of the bitterness, milk and sugar to cool it down and add sweetness,
then down it.



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Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Sun Sep 03 2023 08:04 am

MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

i did see their sausage gravy(for biscuits and gravy) at walmart and it was totally disgusting.

I think I've had that at some bad diners. Sausage gravy is so easy to
make and cheap, I couldn't imagine saving a couple of pennies to be
worth it.

well i can buy a tube of sausage. then i have to buy the flour and milk.
that can be around 10 bucks altogether.

or i can buy a can for 1.50 from walmart.
the brand that i got from walmart was good actually.

but when i'm going all out, i make my own.
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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Gamgee <=-

Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Oh yes. When you average 3-4 hours of sleep per day, for 6-8 months at
a time while on a ship deployed, coffee is life.

The key was to make it strong, add salt (or eggshells!) to take
out some of the bitterness, milk and sugar to cool it down and
add sweetness, then down it.

Hehe, I've heard that, and it was always strong, but I never added
anything to it. To be honest, there often wasn't any milk/sugar
available even if you did want it.


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Re: Re: Food
By: MRO to Nightfox on Fri Sep 01 2023 11:23 am

Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Fri Sep 01 2023 07:53 am

All of that is true. It's "morale" by the way. Moral is a completely

To be fair, you also spelled it "moral" in one of your rsponses to mro...

Nightfox

honestly we are all just casually talking here, and we're all educated.
it's pretty anal to correct eachother's spellings and grammar.
someone that does that is scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

i don't capitalize words and sometimes i dont use apostrophes.
really, who cares.

*scraping

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Re: Re: Food
By: The Lizard Master to MRO on Mon Sep 04 2023 03:13 pm

i don't capitalize words and sometimes i dont use apostrophes.
really, who cares.

*scraping

keep it up i'll misspell all kinds of shit to piss yew oeff
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Re: Re: Food
By: MRO to Nightfox on Fri Sep 01 2023 11:23 am

i don't capitalize words and sometimes i dont use apostrophes.
really, who cares.

You're missing a question mark. :-P
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The key was to make it strong, add salt (or eggshells!) to take out some of the bitterness, milk and sugar to cool it down and add sweetness,
then down it.

Might have to try that. I hate coffee normally.

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candycane wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

The key was to make it strong, add salt (or eggshells!) to take out some of the bitterness, milk and sugar to cool it down and add sweetness,
then down it.

Might have to try that. I hate coffee normally.

A dash of salt in a cup of strong, cheap canned coffee works for me.



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Re: Re: Food
By: Digital Man to MRO on Tue Sep 05 2023 12:20 am

Re: Re: Food
By: MRO to Nightfox on Fri Sep 01 2023 11:23 am

i don't capitalize words and sometimes i dont use apostrophes.
really, who cares.

You're missing a question mark. :-P

t'was a statement!
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Re: Re: Food
By: candycane to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Sep 05 2023 08:49 am

The key was to make it strong, add salt (or eggshells!) to take out some of the bitterness, milk and sugar to cool it down and add sweetness,
then down it.

Might have to try that. I hate coffee normally.

treat it like alcohol. drink it for the effect.
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Might have to try that. I hate coffee normally.

treat it like alcohol. drink it for the effect.

That's how I was treating coffee before. I used to say "as long as it works, it can be made from oil" about coffee.

But then at home we purchased some good coffee machine and we started being selective about the beans. Me and my wife have learned how to store it to keep the beans fresh. Roasting is another thing I'd like to learn.

But even if we buy some nice already roasted beans from various vendors and geographic specialties.. coffee actually started tasting well.

I also stopped using sugar in my tea/coffee drinks years ago.
It also helped to sharpen my tongue to start tasting more flavors.

Sugar is such a taste fuzzing thing that was demolishing the whole experience before.

-h1

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treat it like alcohol. drink it for the effect.

Sounds more like treating it like a game.

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Re: Re: Food
By: hollowone to MRO on Wed Sep 06 2023 12:54 am

Sugar is such a taste fuzzing thing that was demolishing the whole experience before.

sugar and hfcs will modify how you taste things for quite a long time.
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sugar and hfcs will modify how you taste things for quite a long time.

That is correct. I stopped using white/brown sugar about 3 years ago and it took a while to discover my tongue is capable of different tastes.

I also found that with me aging I appreciate more dry/bitter tastes over sweetness.

-h1

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hollowone wrote to MRO <=-

That is correct. I stopped using white/brown sugar about 3 years ago
and it took a while to discover my tongue is capable of different
tastes.

I had stopped all sugar for about a year while I focused on losing weight. One day, after baking some treats for an event, I had some old malted milk powder and sweetened condenced milk. I decided that I had the calories to spend and it wasn't like I was going to have more than a tablespoon anyway.

tl;dr; The sugar rush hit me like a freight train. I think I experienced what LSD users experience. I could hear colors and see sound. Then the crash hit and I took a nap. That never happened again.

I also found that with me aging I appreciate more dry/bitter tastes
over sweetness.

Hence why old people like their coffee black while young people get coffee-based fru fru drinks.


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Re: Re: Food
By: hollowone to MRO on Thu Sep 07 2023 11:32 am

That is correct. I stopped using white/brown sugar about 3 years ago and it took a while to discover my tongue is
capable of different tastes.

Three years? I don't know if I could do it.

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MRO wrote to hollowone <=-

sugar and hfcs will modify how you taste things for quite a long time.

Two weeks. Go on a mono/potato diet for 2 weeks and you'll clear your
palate.



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Dr. What wrote to hollowone <=-

Hence why old people like their coffee black while young people get coffee-based fru fru drinks.

I've always drunk my coffee black. There's a gene for people who
appreciate bitter flavors, it was one of the first genes they mapped.
People who have it like bitter flavors, those who don't dislike flavors.

I've always loved chinese broccoli, hard bitter licorice, and black
coffee.



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Re: Re: Food
By: candycane to hollowone on Fri Sep 08 2023 08:17 am

That is correct. I stopped using white/brown sugar about 3 years ago and

Three years? I don't know if I could do it.

Nobody uses sweet and low? C'mon man. ;-)

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Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dr. What on Fri Sep 08 2023 06:42 am

Dr. What wrote to hollowone <=-

Hence why old people like their coffee black while young people get coffee-based fru fru drinks.

I've always drunk my coffee black. There's a gene for people who
appreciate bitter flavors, it was one of the first genes they mapped.
People who have it like bitter flavors, those who don't dislike flavors.

I've always loved chinese broccoli, hard bitter licorice, and black
coffee.

so that must be the ipa gene
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Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dr. What on Fri Sep 08 2023 06:42 am

I've always drunk my coffee black. There's a gene for people who appreciate bitter flavors, it was one of the first genes they mapped. People who have it like bitter flavors, those who don't dislike flavors.

I definitely don't have it.

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Re: Re: Food
By: HusTler to candycane on Fri Sep 08 2023 04:30 pm

Nobody uses sweet and low? C'mon man. ;-)

Sugar is just that good.

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Re: Re: Food
By: candycane to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Sep 08 2023 09:09 pm

Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dr. What on Fri Sep 08 2023 06:42 am

I've always drunk my coffee black. There's a gene for people who appreciate bitter flavors, it was one of the first genes they mapped. People who have it like bitter flavors, those who don't dislike flavors.

I definitely don't have it.

candycane

sounds interesting but i'm not going to give my dna to evil blackrock to find out.
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Re: Re: Food
By: MRO to candycane on Sat Sep 09 2023 12:53 am

sounds interesting but i'm not going to give my dna to evil blackrock to find out.

What's blackrock?

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Re: Re: Food
By: candycane to MRO on Sat Sep 09 2023 05:27 pm

sounds interesting but i'm not going to give my dna to evil blackrock to
find out.

What's blackrock?

Black Rock is a chain of drive-through coffee places.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Food
By: candycane to MRO on Sat Sep 09 2023 05:27 pm

Re: Re: Food
By: MRO to candycane on Sat Sep 09 2023 12:53 am

sounds interesting but i'm not going to give my dna to evil blackrock to find out.

What's blackrock?

look it up
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Three years? I don't know if I could do it.

Nobody uses sweet and low? C'mon man. ;-)

I hate sweeteners, as kid I was more raised on fruit and fresh veggies from my grandparents little farm. That's why I think I never overused plain sugar, nor candies.

I like chocolate from time to time (1 bar a month or so), I still eat a lot of veggies and fruit that also comes with sugar and my diet if far away from minimizing carbohydrates.

I think I still need to better manage my diet as my weight just doesn't want to drop below 100kg (~220lbs ?) while my optimal weight should be closer to 90-95kg (200-210lbs ?). I could manage it double digit kilos before I turned 40.. now the metabolism is just playing dirty tricks with me..

Some of my friends, my age introduced keto to get some significant weight loss/control effect, but I just can't be consequent, nor my wife is while we dine and cook together.

-h1

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Nobody uses sweet and low? C'mon man. ;-)

I hate sweeteners, as kid I was more raised on fruit and fresh veggies from my grandparents little farm. That's why I think I never overused plain sugar, nor candies.

When was the last time you tried "Sweet and Low" I hated it back in the day but today I think it's sweeter than regular sugar. Maybe that's just me?

I like chocolate from time to time (1 bar a month or so), I still eat a lot of veggies and fruit that also comes with sugar and my diet if far away from minimizing carbohydrates.

Mmmmmmm. I love chocolate! I keep away from it because well.. I try my best to keep my blood sugar levels down.;-)

Re: Re: Food
By: Nightfox to candycane on Sat Sep 09 2023 03:48 pm

Black Rock is a chain of drive-through coffee places.

Oh neat

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Re: Re: Food
By: hollowone to HusTler on Sun Sep 10 2023 01:47 am

I hate sweeteners, as kid I was more raised on fruit and fresh veggies from my grandparents little farm. That's why I think I never overused plain sugar, nor candies.

Must've been nice ^^

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Hello hollowone!

** On Sunday 10.09.23 - 01:47, hollowone wrote to HusTler:

I think I still need to better manage my diet as my weight
just doesn't want to drop below 100kg (~220lbs ?) while my
optimal weight should be closer to 90-95kg (200-210lbs ?).
I could manage it double digit kilos before I turned 40..
now the metabolism is just playing dirty tricks with me..

To loose weight, you need to have a net negative in total
calorie intake in good quality foods (whole foods, no processed
stuff). I used the BMI as a starting point. From that, I
determined the max daily calories to achieve the weight I
wanted to have. For me, it was 1800 cals per day, and that
worked out to about 100 cals per waking hour. With the per hour
insight, I realized that snacking between the 3 traditional
mealtimes was ok as long as I did not exceed the total for the
day. And, by maintaining a steadier cals in shorter hour
intervals, I was less hungry overall.

Another factor in the eating plan was more activity. Most of my
work could be considered sit-down office work (although I
actually stand at my desk and counter) most of the time. But
through the encouragement of a friend, I doubled my average
daily steps and kms from about 1500 steps or 1.6km, to between
2500-4000 steps or almost 3kms. I just started looking for
opportunities to walk more: parking further away from
department store entrances, navigating almost every aisle in
the grocery store even if i don't need anything from that
aisle, etc.

I see guys about my age who have protruding guts. I was on the
verge of having one myself, but not anymore. I don't have the
definition in abs (have still too much viscercal fat from years
of bad diet) ..but it's look better, gradually.

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On 06/09/2023 01:54, hollowone wrote:

Sugar is such a taste fuzzing thing that was demolishing the whole experience before.

When I stopped drinking sugary soda, I had a very similar experience.

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Re: Re: Food
By: hollowone to HusTler on Sun Sep 10 2023 01:47 am

I think I still need to better manage my diet as my weight just doesn't want to drop below 100kg (~220lbs ?) while my optimal weight should be closer to 90-95kg (200-210lbs ?). I could manage it double digit kilos before I turned 40.. now the metabolism is just playing dirty tricks with me..

Some of my friends, my age introduced keto to get some significant weight loss/control effect, but I just can't be consequent, nor my wife is while we dine and cook together.

you hit a wall. you need to exercise.
also reducing carbs might help.
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Re: Re: Food
By: candycane to Nightfox on Sun Sep 10 2023 11:31 am

Re: Re: Food
By: Nightfox to candycane on Sat Sep 09 2023 03:48 pm

Black Rock is a chain of drive-through coffee places.

Oh neat

it isnt
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Re: Food
By: Ogg to hollowone on Sun Sep 10 2023 07:25 am

** On Sunday 10.09.23 - 01:47, hollowone wrote to HusTler:

I think I still need to better manage my diet as my weight
just doesn't want to drop below 100kg (~220lbs ?) while my
optimal weight should be closer to 90-95kg (200-210lbs ?).
I could manage it double digit kilos before I turned 40..
now the metabolism is just playing dirty tricks with me..

To loose weight, you need to have a net negative in total
calorie intake in good quality foods (whole foods, no processed
stuff). I used the BMI as a starting point. From that, I
determined the max daily calories to achieve the weight I
wanted to have. For me, it was 1800 cals per day, and that
worked out to about 100 cals per waking hour. With the per hour

with me i'm a bit fat because of how my life is. i was working nights for 3 years, so i'd eat and then go to sleep.
that's how sumo wrestlers get fat.
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HusTler wrote to hollowone <=-

I hate sweeteners, as kid I was more raised on fruit and fresh veggies from my grandparents little farm. That's why I think I never overused plain sugar, nor candies.

When was the last time you tried "Sweet and Low" I hated it
back in the day but today I think it's sweeter than regular
sugar. Maybe that's just me?

Is that the one that's known to cause cancer?



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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Sun Sep 10 2023 08:44 pm

HusTler wrote to hollowone <=-

I hate sweeteners, as kid I was more raised on fruit and fresh veggies from my grandparents little farm. That's why I think I never overused plain sugar, nor candies.

When was the last time you tried "Sweet and Low" I hated it
back in the day but today I think it's sweeter than regular
sugar. Maybe that's just me?

Is that the one that's known to cause cancer?

fda says they are safe. i do know that i drink diet soda and that shit turns into formaldehyde. when my back was jacked i would get a back massage and it would release the stored toxins inbetween my skin layers. i would be real sick for a while afterwards.
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Re: Re: Food
By: MRO to candycane on Sun Sep 10 2023 02:08 pm

Oh neat

it isnt

Well I haven't heard of it before.

candycane

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Hello MRO!

** On Sunday 10.09.23 - 14:09, MRO wrote to Ogg:

with me i'm a bit fat because of how my life is. i was
working nights for 3 years, so i'd eat and then go to
sleep. that's how sumo wrestlers get fat. -+-

Why not include a brisk 1km after dinner, or first thing in
morning?

Sumo wrestlers probably develop diabetes, heart problems and
die young.

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When was the last time you tried "Sweet and Low" I hated it back in
the day but today I think it's sweeter than regular sugar. Maybe that's just me?

good point. I don't even remember.

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Re: Re: Food
By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Sep 08 2023 08:44 pm

I've always loved chinese broccoli, hard bitter licorice, and black coffee.

so that must be the ipa gene

This is me. I don't drink beer anymore but boy did I love a super bitter IPA. Same with above. Licorice is terrible, however.

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MRO wrote to Gamgee <=-

I hate sweeteners, as kid I was more raised on fruit and fresh veggies from my grandparents little farm. That's why I think I never overused plain sugar, nor candies.

When was the last time you tried "Sweet and Low" I hated it
back in the day but today I think it's sweeter than regular
sugar. Maybe that's just me?

Is that the one that's known to cause cancer?

fda says they are safe. i do know that i drink diet soda and that
shit turns into formaldehyde. when my back was jacked i would
get a back massage and it would release the stored toxins
inbetween my skin layers. i would be real sick for a while
afterwards.

Well, I would hope you don't continue to drink diet soda. Either do
regular soda, or better yet no soda at all.



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Re: Re: Food
By: hollowone to Dumas Walker on Mon Aug 28 2023 22:50:00

Krakus is canned ham, but perhaps higher quality product than SPAM if I consider previous comparison to "mielonka". both exist in plastic wrap and cans.

Worth noting that SPAM is relatively high quality compared to most sausages and deli meats. The reputation for being otherwise is pretty undeserved.


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Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to candycane on Fri Sep 01 2023 06:34:00

SPAM was used by the military in the pacific theater of operations in
WWII since it was easy to keep unrefrigerated. It's still popular in pacific islander cuisine, and Hawaii is the highest consumer of SPAM by state.

"The Food That Built America" had a decent episode regarding the origins of SPAM... it was to preserve pork shoulder in a portable way similar to canned ham, but at a smaller size, so it would be more affordable. It was also spiced and seasoned a bit more heavily to cover the differences in the use of pork shoulder over actual ham.

The reputation for being lower quality is mostly undeserved as it's actually relatively high quality compared to other sausages and deli meats, preserved (canned) or otherwise.


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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Sun Sep 10 2023 20:44:00

Is that the one that's known to cause cancer?

If you consume the equivolent of 80 gallons of soda a day, sure.


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Re: Re: Food
By: candycane to MRO on Mon Sep 11 2023 08:59 am

Re: Re: Food
By: MRO to candycane on Sun Sep 10 2023 02:08 pm

Oh neat

it isnt

Well I haven't heard of it before.

candycane

look it up.
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Re: Food
By: Ogg to MRO on Sun Sep 10 2023 08:34 pm

Hello MRO!

** On Sunday 10.09.23 - 14:09, MRO wrote to Ogg:

with me i'm a bit fat because of how my life is. i was
working nights for 3 years, so i'd eat and then go to
sleep. that's how sumo wrestlers get fat. -+-

Why not include a brisk 1km after dinner, or first thing in
morning?

i dont have time for that shit.
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Re: Re: Food
By: Nopants to MRO on Mon Sep 11 2023 11:34 am

Re: Re: Food
By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Sep 08 2023 08:44 pm

I've always loved chinese broccoli, hard bitter licorice, and black coffee.

so that must be the ipa gene

This is me. I don't drink beer anymore but boy did I love a super bitter IPA. Same with above. Licorice is terrible, however.

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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Mon Sep 11 2023 03:16 pm

get a back massage and it would release the stored toxins
inbetween my skin layers. i would be real sick for a while
afterwards.

Well, I would hope you don't continue to drink diet soda. Either do
regular soda, or better yet no soda at all.

with all the shit i've been exposed to over my lifetime, diet soda is the least of my worries.
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MRO wrote to Gamgee <=-

get a back massage and it would release the stored toxins
inbetween my skin layers. i would be real sick for a while
afterwards.

Well, I would hope you don't continue to drink diet soda. Either do
regular soda, or better yet no soda at all.

with all the shit i've been exposed to over my lifetime, diet
soda is the least of my worries.

Not really a relevant thing to this conversation. Being "exposed to" and "choosing to drink soda" are two quite different things. With the second
one you are harming yourself by choice. <SHRUG>



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Tracker1 wrote to Gamgee <=-

Is that the one that's known to cause cancer?

If you consume the equivolent of 80 gallons of soda a day, sure.

Is that something scientifically known, or just something you pulled out
of your ....? well, you know.

I'm sure you can provide a reference showing that, right?



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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Mon Sep 11 2023 08:43 pm

with all the shit i've been exposed to over my lifetime, diet
soda is the least of my worries.

Not really a relevant thing to this conversation. Being "exposed to" and "choosing to drink soda" are two quite different things. With the second one you are harming yourself by choice. <SHRUG>

i don't drink a lot and it's not as bad as working in a foundry with dust.
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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to Tracker1 on Mon Sep 11 2023 08:45 pm

Tracker1 wrote to Gamgee <=-

Is that the one that's known to cause cancer?

If you consume the equivolent of 80 gallons of soda a day, sure.

Is that something scientifically known, or just something you pulled out
of your ....? well, you know.

I'm sure you can provide a reference showing that, right?

they pumped it into rats as usual and they didn't find it to be cancer causing. also these engineered rats get cancer real easy.

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** On Sunday 10.09.23 - 01:47, hollowone wrote to HusTler:

I think I still need to better manage my diet as my weight
just doesn't want to drop below 100kg (~220lbs ?) while my
optimal weight should be closer to 90-95kg (200-210lbs ?).
I could manage it double digit kilos before I turned 40..
now the metabolism is just playing dirty tricks with me..

http://bookshop.org/a/93260/9781637740347

Nature Wants Us to Be Fat : The Surprising Science Behind Why
We Gain Weight and How We Can Prevent--and Reverse--It HC

Richard Johnson

08-Feb-22

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Re: Food
By: Ogg to hollowone on Mon Sep 11 2023 10:03 pm

Nature Wants Us to Be Fat : The Surprising Science Behind Why
We Gain Weight and How We Can Prevent--and Reverse--It HC

Richard Johnson

08-Feb-22

of course it wants us to be fat. fat is winning.

it's like being rich instead of poor from the body's standpoint.
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Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Fri Sep 01 2023 06:29 am

The term HAM has fallen by the waysi > HAM was legitimate email caught
in a SPAM filter.

That means I have been fighting SPAM
for HAM most of my life.
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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Mon Sep 11 2023 03:16 pm

Well, I would hope you don't continue to drink diet soda. Either do regular soda, or better yet no soda at all.

Ironic the basic version is better for you.

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http://bookshop.org/a/93260/9781637740347

Thank you, I just aquired it. The book will be read, and perhaps then I may have some additional revelations.

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Re: Re: Food
By: candycane to Gamgee on Tue Sep 12 2023 08:43 am

Well, I would hope you don't continue to drink diet soda. Either do regular soda, or better yet no soda at all.

Ironic the basic version is better for you.

candycane

I have about 10 sodas a year on special occasions. One day I thought, this ain't good for me so I just quit. I'm not perfect with health, but that seemed like a fairly easy win. I also quit potato chips which was a harder one because I really liked them, and that I had to do cold turkey. I went to a picnic once and realized I had eaten an entire bag by myself. That was my last potato chip.

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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Mon Sep 11 2023 03:16 pm

Well, I would hope you don't continue to drink diet soda. Either do regular soda, or better yet no soda at all.

Not all diet sodas are the same. I'd imagine diet sodas with stevia should be better for you, as stevia is a natural plant extract.

Nightfox

Hello Tracker1!

** On Monday 11.09.23 - 20:19, Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN:

canned ham, but at a smaller size, so it would be more
affordable. It was also spiced and seasoned a bit more
heavily to cover the differences in the use of pork
shoulder over actual ham.

The reputation for being lower quality is mostly undeserved
as it's actually relatively high quality compared to other
sausages and deli meats, preserved (canned) or otherwise.

As an occasional meat product, maybe. But the regular long-term
ingestion of the nitrates are not good. One of the last canned
ham products I looked at had THREE different types of sodiums:
2 nitrates and 1 nitrite.



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Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

Well, I would hope you don't continue to drink diet soda. Either do regular soda, or better yet no soda at all.

Not all diet sodas are the same. I'd imagine diet sodas with
stevia should be better for you, as stevia is a natural plant
extract.

Maybe, but if you do even a basic search on these artificial sweeteners,
you can find stories about all of them having bad/unpleasant side
effects. Hard to know what is true and what isn't.

Bottom line for me is that non-diet ones that actually contain sugar are probably better/safer for you. If the few extra calories you might get
from sugar in a soda is a deal-breaker for somebody, they've got
significantly bigger problems than that.

No pun intended on the "significantly bigger" part there - don't want to offend Tracker1.



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Re: Re: Food
By: candycane to Gamgee on Tue Sep 12 2023 08:43 am

Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to MRO on Mon Sep 11 2023 03:16 pm

Well, I would hope you don't continue to drink diet soda. Either do regular soda, or better yet no soda at all.

Ironic the basic version is better for you.

yeah but sugar soda is empty calories.
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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Sep 12 2023 03:10 pm

Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

Well, I would hope you don't continue to drink diet soda. Either do regular soda, or better yet no soda at all.

Not all diet sodas are the same. I'd imagine diet sodas with
stevia should be better for you, as stevia is a natural plant
extract.

Maybe, but if you do even a basic search on these artificial sweeteners,
you can find stories about all of them having bad/unpleasant side
effects. Hard to know what is true and what isn't.

i think it was a wive's tale long ago.


soda is not a health food, so shouldn't be treated as such.
i dont think soda with sugar substitutes will be bad for you if you
have it occasionally as a treat. cooking your food on a grill and blackening it is far more dangerous, 'they' say.

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http://bookshop.org/a/93260/9781637740347

Thank you, I just aquired it. The book will be read, and perhaps then I
may have some additional revelations.

Thx for letting me know!

I see that bookshop.org now provides used book alternatives of
some of the new books via Biblio - another fine network.

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On 12 Sep 2023, MRO said the following...

soda is not a health food, so shouldn't be treated as such.
i dont think soda with sugar substitutes will be bad for you if you
have it occasionally as a treat. cooking your food on a grill and blackening it is far more dangerous, 'they' say.

yeah, i'm attempting to train myself to think of it like having a beer. you wouldn't have one at work, or a weekday, or whatever. (well, some people might! ha)

it's an addiction like anything. in my case i let it become part of my routine (wake up, get ready, stop at the gas station for the pop, etc). probably best i just replace it with a unsweetened coffee, tea, something to fill that routine.

i quit pop once before via avoiding caffeine. you'd be surprised how much of a flavor/psychological effect/whatever caffeine has. this was back when mountain dew still had a caffeine free option too. they aren't great and it turned my soda-seeking routine into caffeine-free seeking and i just went from there.

i'm working on it again. decided i'm almost 40 and don't wanna add extra potential reasons to keel over early. from family history on average my options are 65 or >80

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Re: Re: Food
By: MRO to candycane on Tue Sep 12 2023 05:59 pm

yeah but sugar soda is empty calories.

Yea, IK

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hollowone wrote to HusTler <=-

Some of my friends, my age introduced keto to get some significant
weight loss/control effect, but I just can't be consequent, nor my wife
is while we dine and cook together.

I did low-carb for a while, and lost quite a bit of weight on it. If I
were living alone, I'd have stuck with it. I have a vegatarian, a picky
eater and a lactose intolerant person in my house I'm cooking for,
sticking to a low-carb diet was challenging.



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HusTler wrote to hollowone <=-

When was the last time you tried "Sweet and Low" I hated it back in
the day but today I think it's sweeter than regular sugar. Maybe that's just me?

I think all of the artificial sweeteners are much sweeter than sugar -
at least I (and others) have noticed after not using them for a while.



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candycane wrote to MRO <=-

Oh neat

it isnt

Well I haven't heard of it before.

yes you have



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Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to hollowone on Sun Sep 10 2023 07:57 am

hollowone wrote to HusTler <=-

Some of my friends, my age introduced keto to get some significant weight loss/control effect, but I just can't be consequent, nor my wife is while we dine and cook together.

I did low-carb for a while, and lost quite a bit of weight on it. If I
were living alone, I'd have stuck with it. I have a vegatarian, a picky eater and a lactose intolerant person in my house I'm cooking for,
sticking to a low-carb diet was challenging.

i lost a lot of weight and size doing low carb. i had a health scare that ended up being stress related. my mom died of covid on her birthday during christmas time and i had to deal with her affairs and her adopted kids, dogs, etc.
I also left my job as an electronics tech and my boss' right hand man.

it was driving my bp through the roof. i was a walking timebomb and i was going to die. so my bp was like 220 over whatever.

anyways, i went on the turkey sandwich diet and i was walking 4-6 miles a day. nothing happened for a long time and then i lost a lot of fat and size.
i still had cheat days but when i had that pizza i put some weight back on.

anyways, i got sick of living that way. i wanted to be happy instead of being fit and attractive. i'm not looking to impress anybody.

so here i am fat again. i'm not busting out , heavy breathing fat either. i can walk 10 miles, easy, i can lift 50lb bags of whatever every day.
right now i want to fit into my old clothes and leather jackets so i think i may be ready to lose weight again.

here's the secret. you have to be ready. if you arent ready, you won't get it done.
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Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to HusTler on Wed Sep 13 2023 06:38 am

HusTler wrote to hollowone <=-

When was the last time you tried "Sweet and Low" I hated it back in the day but today I think it's sweeter than regular sugar. Maybe that's just me?

I think all of the artificial sweeteners are much sweeter than sugar -
at least I (and others) have noticed after not using them for a while.

yeah i'm drinking a diet pepsi and you're probably right. but ah well, fuck it.
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Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to candycane on Wed Sep 13 2023 06:40 am

candycane wrote to MRO <=-

Oh neat

it isnt

Well I haven't heard of it before.

yes you have

the literally own everything.
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I did low-carb for a while, and lost quite a bit of weight on it. If I were living alone, I'd have stuck with it. I have a vegatarian, a picky eater and a lactose intolerant person in my house I'm cooking for, sticking to a low-carb diet was challenging.

I can bet it would end up with cooking three separate dinners every evening :)

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Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to candycane on Wed Sep 13 2023 06:40 am

it isnt

Well I haven't heard of it before.

yes you have

Sorry? How do you know?

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** On Thursday 14.09.23 - 01:11, MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN:

I think all of the artificial sweeteners are much sweeter
than sugar -at least I (and others) have noticed after not
using them for a while.

yeah i'm drinking a diet pepsi and you're probably right.
but ah well, fuck it. -+-

Ah.. addicted to sugar. Drinking pop just keeps you there
longer. :/

First thing I did was throw out all the white sugar that I had
in the house. It was over 25 lbs in various forms: cubed,
icing, granular, packets.

Prior to that it was very tempting to add a little dash of
sugar even to an evening coffee or tea.


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Re: Food
By: Ogg to MRO on Thu Sep 14 2023 08:32 am

Ah.. addicted to sugar. Drinking pop just keeps you there longer. :/

First thing I did was throw out all the white sugar that I had in the house. It was over 25 lbs in various forms: cubed, icing, granular, packets.

Prior to that it was very tempting to add a little dash of sugar even to an evening coffee or tea.

I rarely add sugar to foods. I have a container of sugar that I've had since I moved 3 years ago that I haven't even opened.. Aside from baking something that might require sugar, I'm not sure what I'd want to add sugar to.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Food
By: candycane to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Sep 14 2023 08:38 am

Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to candycane on Wed Sep 13 2023 06:40 am

it isnt

Well I haven't heard of it before.

yes you have

Sorry? How do you know?

candycane

do you not have the ability to do an internet search for information?
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Re: Food
By: Ogg to MRO on Thu Sep 14 2023 08:32 am

Hello MRO!

** On Thursday 14.09.23 - 01:11, MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN:

I think all of the artificial sweeteners are much sweeter
than sugar -at least I (and others) have noticed after not
using them for a while.

yeah i'm drinking a diet pepsi and you're probably right.
but ah well, fuck it. -+-

Ah.. addicted to sugar. Drinking pop just keeps you there
longer. :/

i'm not addicted to anything. and i dont call it 'pop'.

First thing I did was throw out all the white sugar that I had
in the house. It was over 25 lbs in various forms: cubed,
icing, granular, packets.

i've never used sugar except when i was younger. my grandma told me how to put sugar on my corn flakes.

i dont use sugar now and i rarely use salt. frenchfries, taquitos, yes. everything else gets pepper.
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i lost a lot of weight and size doing low carb. i had a health scare
that ended up being stress related. my mom died of covid on her
birthday during christmas time and i had to deal with her affairs and
her adopted kids, dogs, etc. I also left my job as an electronics tech
and my boss' right hand man.

<cut of the whole story>

here's the secret. you have to be ready. if you arent ready, you won't
get it done.

Man... I read that and all I can say is that I really respect your story and I've got a lot of new sympathy to you. Hard to say more than just.. yeah (over all)!

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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to Tracker1 on Mon Sep 11 2023 20:45:00

Is that the one that's known to cause cancer?

If you consume the equivolent of 80 gallons of soda a day, sure.

Is that something scientifically known, or just something you pulled out of your ....? well, you know.

I'm sure you can provide a reference showing that, right?

Look up the study in question, if you compare the body mass of the mice to humans then calculate the amount they were giving the mice, it's something along the lines of what would take, iirc, 80 gallons of soda per day to intake. Unless you work with the raw ingredient in sufficient quanities and even then would be hard to injest that much. I looked it up and did the math around a decade and a half ago. In any case, it was significantly more than a person is
likely to injest in the form of soda or other liquid beverages.

Also, aspertame and sucralose are more common these days along with a few other artificial sweeteners and sweetness enhancers. The affects of which are somewhat more concerning for some. The Potassium based compound in "Zero" for example. The biggest risks seem to come from hormone responses when consumed outside of meals, the body expects caloric intake when taking in something sweet. This is why I try to keep flavored drinks to just with meals and drink mostly water outside that.


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Re: Re: Food
By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Tue Sep 12 2023 08:30:57

Not all diet sodas are the same. I'd imagine diet sodas with stevia should be better for you, as stevia is a natural plant extract.

Probably, but it hasn't been tested in either case... aspertame in particular is one of the most tested substances other than water on the planet.

That said, stevia soda takes some getting used to, there's a bitter aftertaste on the back of the tongue. If you have a SodaStream, you can use flavored stevia drops with that and it'll save a lot over the canned Zevia and other brands that are pretty pricey.


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Re: Food
By: Ogg to Tracker1 on Tue Sep 12 2023 08:01:00

As an occasional meat product, maybe. But the regular long-term
ingestion of the nitrates are not good. One of the last canned
ham products I looked at had THREE different types of sodiums:
2 nitrates and 1 nitrite.

You better stay away from celery then...


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Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Sep 12 2023 15:10:00

Bottom line for me is that non-diet ones that actually contain sugar are probably better/safer for you. If the few extra calories you might get from sugar in a soda is a deal-breaker for somebody, they've got significantly bigger problems than that.

Worth noting that a single 12oz can of soda has the recommended limit on daily sugar intake for an adult male. Most people in the US get way behond that.


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Re: Re: Food
By: MRO to candycane on Tue Sep 12 2023 17:59:53

yeah but sugar soda is empty calories.

Worth noting is that nearly 2/3 of the calories one takes in are purely for energy use. Though excess fructose can be problematic, as only the liver can metabolise it, think all the problems of alcohol without the negative reinforcement of a hangover.


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Re: Re: Food
By: poindexter FORTRAN to hollowone on Sun Sep 10 2023 07:57:00

I did low-carb for a while, and lost quite a bit of weight on it. If I were living alone, I'd have stuck with it. I have a vegatarian, a picky eater and a lactose intolerant person in my house I'm cooking for, sticking to a low-carb diet was challenging.

Yeah, it's definitely hard to stick to when you live with people consuming other things, especially if you like those other things. Does the vegetarian in question include eggs or fish? Only ask, as supplements are crucial if not getting at least eggs or fish in the diet (eggs being slightly better for nutrition).


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Re: Food
By: Ogg to MRO on Thu Sep 14 2023 08:32:00

Prior to that it was very tempting to add a little dash of
sugar even to an evening coffee or tea.

I keep flavored stevia drops for that... usually a bit of caramel or vanilla flavored with a bit of heavy cream. Only have coffee a couple times a month though and avoid caffeine more than a couple times a week.


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Re: Food
By: MRO to Ogg on Thu Sep 14 2023 17:47:36

i dont use sugar now and i rarely use salt. frenchfries, taquitos, yes. everything else gets pepper.

The risks of not getting enough salt are FAR greater than too much. The lowest levels of consumption of salt vs the highest only increase BP by about 1-2. Salt to taste. In fact, there have been experiments showing that people often eat to satiety based on salt content, which means if you don't use salt, you're incliuned to simply eat more. Of course, anything prepared for you likely has plenty already. Home cooks often don't use enough though.


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** On Friday 15.09.23 - 17:47, Tracker1 wrote to Ogg:

Re: Food
By: Ogg to Tracker1 on Tue Sep 12 2023 08:01:00

As an occasional meat product, maybe. But the regular long-term
ingestion of the nitrates are not good. One of the last canned
ham products I looked at had THREE different types of sodiums:
2 nitrates and 1 nitrite.

You better stay away from celery then...

Ah.. but from celery it's a accompanied with fiber. Big
difference. And.. natural sources of nitrates are converted to
nitric oxide. According to WebMD, spinach, bok choy, lettuce
and carrots are mentioned as sources of natural nitrates.
Dunno why celery isn't mentioned. But the source of nitrates
in vegetables "are less likely to be harmful (ie to form
nitrosamines). This is because they aren't protein-rich foods
and also contain protective components like vitamin C,
polyphenols and fibre, which have all been shown to reduce
nitrosamine formation."

This article seems to explain the concerns pretty good:

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190311-what-are-nitrates- in-food-side-effects




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** On Friday 15.09.23 - 18:46, Tracker1 wrote to Ogg:

Re: Food
By: Ogg to MRO on Thu Sep 14 2023 08:32:00

Prior to that it was very tempting to add a little dash of
sugar even to an evening coffee or tea.

I keep flavored stevia drops for that... usually a bit of
caramel or vanilla flavored with a bit of heavy cream.
Only have coffee a couple times a month though and avoid
caffeine more than a couple times a week.

After I tossed out the white sugar, I discovered stevia. That
was quite fine on my road to getting off sweeteners altogether.

But it was the craving for something sweet that lingered for
about 3 weeks until then.


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Re: Re: Food
By: hollowone to MRO on Fri Sep 15 2023 12:35 pm

i lost a lot of weight and size doing low carb. i had a health scare that ended up being stress related. my mom died of covid on her birthday during christmas time and i had to deal with her affairs and her adopted kids, dogs, etc. I also left my job as an electronics tech and my boss' right hand man.

<cut of the whole story>

here's the secret. you have to be ready. if you arent ready, you won't get it done.

Man... I read that and all I can say is that I really respect your story and I've got a lot of new sympathy to you. Hard to say more than just.. yeah (over all)!

life sucks. then during that time my best friend blew his brains out, someone tried to xfer 5k out of my bank account because of my credit union's website had an exploit. someone broke my car window and fucked it up trying to steal it. snow and rain in it all night.
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Re: Re: Food
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Fri Sep 15 2023 05:46 pm

aftertaste on the back of the tongue. If you have a SodaStream, you can use flavored stevia drops with that and it'll save a lot over the canned Zevia and other brands that are pretty pricey.

man i looked that up. still expensive. especially the co2 bottles.
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Re: Re: Food
By: Tracker1 to Gamgee on Fri Sep 15 2023 05:57 pm

Re: Re: Food
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Sep 12 2023 15:10:00

Bottom line for me is that non-diet ones that actually contain sugar are probably better/safer for you. If the few extra calories you might get from sugar in a soda is a deal-breaker for somebody, they've got significantly bigger problems than that.

Worth noting that a single 12oz can of soda has the recommended limit on daily sugar intake for an adult male. Most people in the US get way behond that.

with all this talk of soda i got a case of real pepsi and i'm hating it.
it tastes so gross. also after drinking one i want to have anoter because i'm still thirsty.

i'll just save this stuff for mixers.
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On 15 Sep 2023, MRO said the following...

By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Fri Sep 15 2023 05:46 pm

aftertaste on the back of the tongue. If you have a SodaStream, you ca flavored stevia drops with that and it'll save a lot over the canned Ze and other brands that are pretty pricey.

man i looked that up. still expensive. especially the co2 bottles.

yeah, most people who are 'into' sodastream end up swapping for the same stuff beer brewers use. welding shops can refill tanks for really cheap,
and then you carbonate a few 1 to 5 gallon tanks of whatever you'd like.

i had all the equipment for beer kegging and made root beer once. it was
kind of nice, but it gets old having 5 gallons of it. kind of wish i had
though of making rootbeer floats with it.. d'oh

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Re: Re: Food
By: MRO to Tracker1 on Fri Sep 15 2023 23:35:24

aftertaste on the back of the tongue. If you have a SodaStream, you
can use flavored stevia drops with that and it'll save a lot over the
canned Zevia and other brands that are pretty pricey.

man i looked that up. still expensive. especially the co2 bottles.

I got an adapter hose so I can hook up a regular CO2 tank, I have two 5# tanks they last about 6 months or so, if I used it regularly, would still last at least a few months.


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Re: Re: Food
By: fusion to MRO on Sat Sep 16 2023 10:26:00

yeah, most people who are 'into' sodastream end up swapping for the same stuff beer brewers use. welding shops can refill tanks for really cheap, and then you carbonate a few 1 to 5 gallon tanks of whatever you'd like.

Yeah, did the same a few years ago when I got it, I'd suggest staying away from the welding co2, it can sometimes be funky, best to get food grade co2 from a brew shop.

i had all the equipment for beer kegging and made root beer once. it was kind of nice, but it gets old having 5 gallons of it. kind of wish i had though of making rootbeer floats with it.. d'oh

Used to be a small brewer in Prescott that would make the max allowed of "real" rootbeer (sasafrass root) once a year, but last run they sold out in a day, and got calls for weeks after so they stopped. I don't think I could go through 5 gallons in any kind of reasonable timeframe. Let alone the sugar content.

Had DQ today for the first time in a very long time, woke up with a glucose at 58, and needed a bump.


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Re: Re: Food
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sat Sep 16 2023 07:56 pm

man i looked that up. still expensive. especially the co2 bottles.

I got an adapter hose so I can hook up a regular CO2 tank, I have two 5# tanks they last about 6 months or so, if I used it regularly, would still last at least a few months.

i have 2 propane tanks, i'll give it a try with that, thanks.
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Re: Re: Food
By: Tracker1 to fusion on Sat Sep 16 2023 08:04 pm

Used to be a small brewer in Prescott that would make the max allowed of "real" rootbeer (sasafrass root) once a year, but last run they sold out in a day, and got calls for weeks after so they stopped. I don't think I could go through 5 gallons in any kind of reasonable timeframe. Let alone the sugar content.

why would people want that? isn't it bad for you?
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On 16 Sep 2023, Tracker1 said the following...

Used to be a small brewer in Prescott that would make the max allowed of "real" rootbeer (sasafrass root) once a year, but last run they sold out in a day, and got calls for weeks after so they stopped. I don't think

man i would really like to try that.. sarsparilla was always my favorite.
it was inauthentic, obviously :) basically differently flavored root beer
made by Sioux City and a few others ... seems to have fallen out of favor though around where i live. pretty big competition from other more trendy "craft" soda companies.

i live near founder's brewing company and they have the same problem with
some of their stout beers. lines all around the building and traffic jams around the bus station. maybe that's improved a bit now that they have an actual schedule they follow.

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man i looked that up. still expensive. especially the co2 bottles.

They are expensive up-front, but if you buy carbonated
water/seltzer/whatever in cans/bottles, you'll save a lot by moving to Sodastream - and create less waste in the process.

After the first canister, you're spending a fraction of what you would
buying bottled/canned water.



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MRO wrote to Tracker1 <=-

with all this talk of soda i got a case of real pepsi and i'm hating
it. it tastes so gross. also after drinking one i want to have anoter because i'm still thirsty.

Pepsi Zero sugar is the least worst of the Pepsi options. I drank one in
a pinch a few weeks ago at a taqueria.

Most of the taquerias around me seem to be Pepsi joints.



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