This is by Mark Meuser, the guy who ran for US Senate in 2022 in
California.

I am tired of hearing that California is redistricting to combat
President Trump and Texas redistricting efforts. Texas was forced to
redistrict because the Biden DOJ sued Galveston County and lost which
changed the law thus making four Texas Congressional Districts unconstitutional.
When Texas drew its congressional districts in 2021, they created four congressional districts where they combined two minority communities to
create a minority-majority district (Coalition minority districts).
On March 24, 2022, the Biden DOJ sued Galveston County Commissioners
because Galveston did not draw a coalition minority district for the
Black and Latino population.
On October 13, 2023, a Federal Judge agreed with Biden's DOJ and found
that Galveston County was required to draw a Commissioner seat by
combining two minority communities.
On November 10, 2023, a three Judge panel of the 5th Circuit found that combining two minority groups to create a minority-majority district was unconstitutional and thus asked for an en banc panel to review the issue
to overturn prior precedents.
On Aug. 1, 2024, the en banc panel of the Fifth Circuit concluded "that coalition claims do not comport with Section 2's statutory language or
with Supreme Court cases interpreting Section 2." The Fifth Circuit
ruled coalition minority districts are unconstitutional.
On July 7, 2025, President Trump's DOJ sent a letter to Texas
highlighting the 5th Circuit Order, pointing out that there are four
coalition minority congressional districts that are now unconstitutional
and that Texas needed to fix the problem.
Texas made a prudent choice to redraw the congressional districts so as
to save their taxpayers the expense of litigating the losing case of
defending minority coalition districts.
Texas did not have to redraw four minority coalitions districts because
of President Trump. Texas had to redraw the lines because Biden sued
Galveston County and the law was clarified that coalition minority
districts were unconstitutional.
It is important to understand that the 2021 lines drawn by the
California Independent Redistricting Commission have never been
challenged in Court as unconstitutional because districts were drawn to
create coalition minority districts.
Since Texas law requires that the Texas legislature draw the
congressional districts, the Texas legislature followed the law.
However, the California Constitution prohibits the California
legislature from drawing congressional districts and instead places that responsibility on the Independent Redistricting Commission.
To put Proposition 50 on the ballot for the voters of California to
decide, the California legislature had to violate the California
Constitution multiple times.
The California legislature is asking the voters of California to
forgiven them for violating the California Constitution when they should
have asked the voters for permission to draw the maps.
I was a part of two lawsuits filed before the California Supreme Court
asking the Court to stop Proposition 50 before it went to the voters
because the California legislature violated the California Constitution. Unfortunately, the California Supreme Court refused to require the
California legislature to defend their unconstitutional acts and simply dismissed the Writ without even deciding the merits of the matter.
While I am preparing the next lawsuit that will be filed, it is
important that the voters of California stand up against the
unconstitutional actions of Gavin Newsom and the California legislature
by voting No on November 4th to Proposition 50.
The next time someone tells you that Newsom had to Gavinmander the State
of California, remind them that the reason Texas had to redraw
Congressional Districts is because Biden sued and lost which resulted in
Texas having to redraw its lines.








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The next time someone tells you that Newsom had to Gavinmander the State
of California, remind them that the reason Texas had to redraw
Congressional Districts is because Biden sued and lost which resulted in Texas having to redraw its lines.

To me, it doesn't really matter why Texas did it. The fact that
politicians in another state -- California -- would decide that "getting back" at Texas is more important that properly representing their own voters is telling.

The fact that some citizens think it is the right thing to do is even more telling.


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Re: For the Californians why
By: Dumas Walker to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sat Sep 06 2025 10:41 am

To me, it doesn't really matter why Texas did it. The fact that politicians in another state -- California -- would decide that "getting back" at Texas is more important that properly representing their own voters is telling.

Texas redistricted because Trump asked them to in order to skew the midterms - not to properly represent their own voters - just in case you decide to care why Texas did it.

Looking at some of the congressional districts, it's obvious both sides have skewed boundaries for political profit at the expense of their constituents. It's disingenuous to point fingers at one party and not the other.

Between campaign election finance reform, removing gerrymandering and term limits, the people who have the power to make the changes to save the system are profiting from it. I think the only solution is going to burn it all down, but unfortunately America's wealth will have been secured offshore by that point.

It was a good run.

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To me, it doesn't really matter why Texas did it. The fact that politician
in another state -- California -- would decide that "getting back" at Texas
is more important that properly representing their own voters is telling.

Texas redistricted because Trump asked them to in order to skew the midterms -
not to properly represent their own voters - just in case you decide to care why Texas did it.

While there might be alterior motives in the outcome, Texas was forced to redistrict because the Biden admin originally sued them. Biden's admin lost, but the result was that Texas had to redistrict. So this was coming
regardless of what Trump asked them to do. Sounds like it was coming even if Biden, or Harris, were President.

Newsome and company are just doing it to spite another state. You don't
fix a wrong by doing voluntarily something even more wrong.

Looking at some of the congressional districts, it's obvious both sides have skewed boundaries for political profit at the expense of their constituents. It's disingenuous to point fingers at one party and not the other.

Correct. In Kentucky, the legislature draws districts. The legislature
used to always be Democrat controlled and they, too, loved their
gerrymanders. I think the last time I was aware of them doing it, they
were forced to because of a census and we were losing a seat.

At any rate, they thought they'd get creative & try to get rid of one of our 2 only Republican reps. They screwed up. Kentucky went from having majority Democrat representation in the House to never having more that two Democrats
in the House at one time.

The moral of the story is, IMHO, draw districts like you are supposed to and don't try to play games with it.

Between campaign election finance reform, removing gerrymandering and term limits, the people who have the power to make the changes to save the system are profiting from it. I think the only solution is going to burn it all down,
but unfortunately America's wealth will have been secured offshore by that point.

It was a good run.

They can try to "remove" gerrymandering but it will always exist, in the
minds of some people, because there will always be a group that doesn't get what they want. I disagree with burning it all down but something drastic needs doing when it comes to the people who are profiting from it.


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On 07 Sep 2025, Dumas Walker said the following...

To me, it doesn't really matter why Texas did it. The fact that politician
in another state -- California -- would decide that "getting back" at Texas
is more important that properly representing their own voters is tell

Texas redistricted because Trump asked them to in order to skew the midt

Trump is bully and a dictator and does not give a crap about the poor or the middle class, continue abuse his own presidental powers, spread propaganda, the U.S debt is now over 37T and will go up to 3T to 5T in the next few years, continues to make lies about how he wants to make america great, acts like a spoiled child when it does get things the way he wants it to me and stubborn and ignorant. Everyone needs to do more research and listen before they run their mouth off.

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Hey Sysop!

On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 17:36:00 +0000, you wrote:

Trump is bully and a dictator and does not give a crap about the poor or
the middle class, continue abuse his own presidental powers, spread propaganda, the U.S debt is now over 37T and will go up to 3T to 5T in
the next few years, continues to make lies about how he wants to make america great, acts like a spoiled child when it does get things the way
he wants it to me and stubborn and ignorant. Everyone needs to do more research and listen before they run their mouth off.

Obviously, English class failed you, Phil. 'Bigly'.

Are you posting as "Sysop" here on Dovenet to try and hide from everyone here that knows you? If I remember right, there's a whole bunch of "Phil quotes" saved for you, and readily available online. :D

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Re: For the Californians why
By: Sysop to Dumas Walker on Thu Oct 30 2025 05:36 pm

stubborn and ignorant. Everyone needs to do more research and listen before they run their mouth off.

Yes you should.

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Sysop wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

To me, it doesn't really matter why Texas did it. The fact that politician
in another state -- California -- would decide that "getting back" at Texas
is more important that properly representing their own voters is tell

Texas redistricted because Trump asked them to in order to skew the midt

Trump is bully and a dictator and does not give a crap about the poor
or the middle class, continue abuse his own presidental powers, spread propaganda, the U.S debt is now over 37T and will go up to 3T to 5T in
the next few years, continues to make lies about how he wants to make america great, acts like a spoiled child when it does get things the
way he wants it to me and stubborn and ignorant. Everyone needs to do
more research and listen before they run their mouth off.

Hey Phil, you sound even more ignorant here than you do on Fidonet.

Why are you posting as "Sysop"? Is it because you don't know how to
configure a BBS, or are you trying to hide?




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Re: Re: For the Californians why
By: Sysop to Dumas Walker on Thu Oct 30 2025 05:36 pm

Trump is bully and a dictator and does not give a crap about the poor
or the middle class, continue abuse his own presidental powers,
spread propaganda, the U.S debt is now over 37T and will go up to
3T to 5T in the next few years, continues to make lies about how he
wants to make america great, acts like a spoiled child when it does
get things the way he wants it to me and stubborn and ignorant.
Everyone needs to do more research and listen before they run their
mouth off.

go back to reddit, 'sysop'.
you will fit in nicely there and you can say orange man bad and rapist, etc etc etc
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Re: For the Californians why
By: Accession to Sysop on Thu Oct 30 2025 05:40 pm

mouth off.

Obviously, English class failed you, Phil. 'Bigly'.

Are you posting as "Sysop" here on Dovenet to try and hide from
everyone here that knows you? If I remember right, there's a whole
bunch of "Phil quotes" saved for you, and readily available
online. :D

that's plt phil? i didnt know he was around.

that phil quotes thing is kinda lame though.
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