Dude, I got a Signalink USB coming in Tuesday. I understand I can use it to do Packet Radio. So like how do I find your BBS via packet radio? What Frequency are you on, and anything else I need to know to connect to your BBS via packet?

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Re: Packet Radio Synchronet
By: John Guillory to Echicken on Sat Apr 27 2013 06:57:22

Dude, I got a Signalink USB coming in Tuesday. I understand I can use it to do Packet Radio. So like how do I find your BBS via packet radio? What Frequency are you on, and anything else I need to know to connect to your BBS via packet?

My BBS isn't permanently on the air just yet; I set things up every so often for testing and development, but that's all. At some point I'll dedicate a rig to it.

When I do have my BBS on the air, it's either on 2M or 70CM, so you'd either have to be somewhere near Toronto or using a long digipeater path to reach it. (The repeater-path stuff in my packet radio software "should" work but is totally untested at this point.)

We could of course try 300 baud packet on HF at some point, where in
theory you could connect to my BBS from the other side of the planet depending on propagation. It would be interesting, if excruciatingly slow.

echicken
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Re: Packet Radio Synchronet
By: echicken to John Guillory on Sat Apr 27 2013 14:10:58

We could of course try 300 baud packet on HF at some point, where in
theory you could connect to my BBS from the other side of the planet dependi on propagation. It would be interesting, if excruciatingly slow.

Dear God, no. I setup a packet system once using encrypted military radios sending/receiving @ 300 baud and for just sending small text files (logistics and maintenance stuff) in the field or on deployment it was hell. It was the 90s and since Clinton hacked our budget we had to "make do" with what we had so we couldn't even begin to fathom the satellite packet hardware we would later be issued in the run up to Iraq 2: Electric Boogaloo. And that 300 baud was at FM freqs, with about 30 miles between stations and we still had severe packet loss at times. HF on anything other than PSK31 I imagine would be a nightmare.

Nonya - Pimptastic BBS

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Re: Packet Radio Synchronet
By: Nonya to echicken on Sat Apr 27 2013 21:11:34

Dear God, no. I setup a packet system once using encrypted military radios sending/receiving @ 300 baud and for just sending small text files (logistics and maintenance stuff) in the field or on deployment it was hell. It was the 90s and since Clinton hacked our budget we had to "make

Indeed - my expectation is that anyone using Synchronet's packet radio support will be using it at a minimum of 1200 baud, preferably at 9600, 19200 or greater. I find it quite usable at 1200, although it wouldn't be my first choice for day-to-day usage.

stations and we still had severe packet loss at times. HF on anything other than PSK31 I imagine would be a nightmare.

There is some 300 baud packet activity on HF that's been going on for quite a while, though I have no experience with it. Apparently people are able to make do with it. PSK31 (among others) does tend to work better in less-than-ideal propagation conditions, but it's already slow enough without introducing error correction, etc.

echicken
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Re: Packet Radio Synchronet
By: echicken to Nonya on Sun Apr 28 2013 01:19:11

Indeed - my expectation is that anyone using Synchronet's packet radio support will be using it at a minimum of 1200 baud, preferably at 9600, 19200 or greater. I find it quite usable at 1200, although it wouldn't be my first choice for day-to-day usage.

Yup, I thought it'd be cool to do for nostilgiac purposes. Bring back memories of when all I had was a 300 baud modem. Studying for the Extra test, I see a lot of info on digital modes. PSK31 sounds cool. My Signalink comes in tomorow. I'll be off Wednesday and Thursday to play with it. I just had a vision of me downloading the latest Synchronet via 300 Baud Packet Radio, and one of you guys coming to your screen to see what is going on and saying "Oh my God Some Moron is downloading Synchronet at 300 Baud!"

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Re: Packet Radio Synchronet
By: John Guillory to echicken on Tue Apr 30 2013 02:47:27

in tomorow. I'll be off Wednesday and Thursday to play with it. I just had vision of me downloading the latest Synchronet via 300 Baud Packet Radio, an one of you guys coming to your screen to see what is going on and saying "Oh God Some Moron is downloading Synchronet at 300 Baud!"

I'd laugh if I saw that. Yesterday I ordered one of the newer Pi's with more RAM (512 v. original of 256), Pi enclosure, and an LCD backpack for it. That's what I'm going to be using to experiment with Synchronet packet so I can leave the old Pi w/LCD running the regular BBS alone. I've got one of those same Signalink USB soundcards (and the very portable Signalink red USB box as well) and they work great. Just remember though, they're not true packet modems they're just USB soundcards designed for use with radios. Any packet work would have to be done in software on the PC side.

Nonya - Pimptastic BBS

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Re: Packet Radio Synchronet
By: Nonya to John Guillory on Tue Apr 30 2013 08:17:03

Signalink red USB box as well) and they work great. Just remember though, they're not true packet modems they're just USB soundcards designed for use with radios. Any packet work would have to be done in software on the PC side.

For those running Linux, I believe that soundmodem would be a good fit for this. For those running Windows ... not that I've tried very hard, but I've yet to see a soundcard packet program that doesn't make me want to retch.

echicken
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Re: Packet Radio Synchronet
By: echicken to Nonya on Tue Apr 30 2013 12:41 pm

Re: Packet Radio Synchronet
By: Nonya to John Guillory on Tue Apr 30 2013 08:17:03

Signalink red USB box as well) and they work great. Just remember thou they're not true packet modems they're just USB soundcards designed for use with radios. Any packet work would have to be done in software on PC side.

For those running Linux, I believe that soundmodem would be a good fit for this. For those running Windows ... not that I've tried very hard, but I've yet to see a soundcard packet program that doesn't make me want to retch.

echicken
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Re: Packet Radio Synchronet
By: echicken to Nonya on Tue Apr 30 2013 12:41:13

For those running Linux, I believe that soundmodem would be a good fit for this. For those running Windows ... not that I've tried very hard, but I've yet to see a soundcard packet program that doesn't make me want to retch.

That's why I just ordered another Pi w/512MB of RAM to experiment with this and a Signalink USB.

Nonya - Pimptastic BBS

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Re: Packet Radio Synchronet
By: Nonya to echicken on Tue Apr 30 2013 04:15 pm

Re: Packet Radio Synchronet
By: echicken to Nonya on Tue Apr 30 2013 12:41:13

For those running Linux, I believe that soundmodem would be a good fit fo this. For those running Windows ... not that I've tried very hard, but I yet to see a soundcard packet program that doesn't make me want to retch.

That's why I just ordered another Pi w/512MB of RAM to experiment with this a Signalink USB.

Nonya - Pimptastic BBS

I would order anothr pi, but I am getting too fat.

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Re: Packet Radio Synchronet
By: Nonya to John Guillory on Tue Apr 30 2013 08:17:03

Signalink red USB box as well) and they work great. Just remember though, they're not true packet modems they're just USB soundcards designed for
use with radios. Any packet work would have to be done in software on the PC side.

True, but for the price and the flexibility, you can't beat it! Not to
mention, look at how many modes you can do! Heck, just looking at fldigi,
I am already doing more than I realized was available. I'll be playing
with it more tomorow. Being able to encode and decode morse code is pretty
cool! Something you can't do with a TNC! Next is to get some of the locals
convinced to go digital and get them to do so on 2 meters.... Actually,
one is into Digital, but I never hear him on the repeater.

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Re: Packet Radio Synchronet
By: echicken to Nonya on Tue Apr 30 2013 12:41:13

For those running Linux, I believe that soundmodem would be a good fit for this. For those running Windows ... not that I've tried very hard, but
I've yet to see a soundcard packet program that doesn't make me want to retch.

I may have to look into that. I have linux on the laptop, can dual-boot
windows 7 or linux. The signalink is OS in-dependant, will run on any OS
that supports USB.

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Re: Packet Radio Synchronet
By: John Guillory to Nonya on Wed May 01 2013 05:15:06

be playing with it more tomorow. Being able to encode and decode morse code is pretty cool! Something you can't do with a TNC! Next is to get

I've actually got a couple of TNCs lying around that do Morse code. That said, fldigi is nice, and quite comprehensive.

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