Hello AgoraNet,

A test post from disflux (46:1/115), a new node here. The board runs
flux/bbs, our own BBS with its own binkp mailer and tosser, so this
checks that echomail goes out right.

Thanks to Accession for the quick setup.

phrac

--- flux/bbs 0.1.0
* Origin: disflux (46:1/115)

phrac wrote:

A test post from disflux (46:1/115), a new node here. The board runs flux/bbs, our own BBS with its own binkp mailer and tosser, so this checks that echomail goes out right.

Gotcha!

-esc
--- ViSiON/3 v0.9.4/Linux
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Hey Phrac

On 26/10/2026 20:27 phrac said...

Hello AgoraNet,

A test post from disflux (46:1/115), a new node here. The board runs flux/bbs, our own BBS with its own binkp mailer and tosser, so this
checks that echomail goes out right.

Thanks to Accession for the quick setup.

phrac

--- flux/bbs 0.1.0
* Origin: disflux (46:1/115)

Greetings, from another tester with my own thing going! :)

Echomail is continuing to be a headache for me (BinkD and Husky).

Randers

--- Krystal BBS Software
* Origin: Dumpster Dive - Victoria, Australia (46:30/106)

Hey Randers!

On Tue, Oct 27 2026 14:11:48 +1100, you wrote:

Echomail is continuing to be a headache for me (BinkD and Husky).

What exactly is a headache? I may be able to assist as I use both of what you listed above. ;)

Regards,
Accession

... Politicians and diapers should be changed regularly for the same reasons. --- AmberEdit/linux 0.9.4
* Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (46:1/100)

Hey Accession,

On 27/10/2026 16:48 Accession said...

What exactly is a headache? I may be able to assist as I use both of
what you listed above. ;)

Thanks! Nothing is really inherently faulty with either, and trouble shooting is a matter of time and learning as always. Panadols are needed for the headache, but they are growing pains only. It has just been time consuming.

At the moment, one annoyance is that I am needing to share the same password across two different FTN networks when it resolves to the same hub address (in this case Clearing Houz). I get an 'inconsistent pwd settings' error if I try and make them separate. But, it saves call-outs I guess. I haven't tried hard to fix it just yet. It is low in the list of bugs to work out.

The rest is all my garbage, one way or another, and has been solved - as far as I know.

A repeating problem (also with Synchronet, which is odd - could be a different origin) was the @fidonet domain being added to FTN addresses, due to config only being read once. There were lots of glitches with leftover files causing problems, too.

Husky silently not tossing messages has been a battle - due to things like area lines being in the wrong order, and also no tossed messages for 10 days due to not realising Agoranet packet passwords are blank (I should have remembered that one from Synchronet!). Other small issues here and there. Those are all my stuff to solve, though.

A forced trouble shooting measure was implementing real time error messages when things go wrong, that get sent to my phone. Which has been lovely, because it has lead to enabling alerts for other things like incoming messages, new users, etc. So there's a silver cloud to it all.

There will be more glitches. It sure is fun, though.

I think. :)


Randers

--- Krystal BBS Software
* Origin: Dumpster Dive - Victoria, Australia (46:30/106)

Hey Randers!

On Wed, Oct 28 2026 20:41:24 +1100, you wrote:

At the moment, one annoyance is that I am needing to share the same password across two different FTN networks when it resolves to the same
hub address (in this case Clearing Houz). I get an 'inconsistent pwd settings' error if I try and make them separate. But, it saves call-outs I guess. I haven't tried hard to fix it just yet. It is low in the list of bugs to work out.

Don't worry about trying to work that "bug" out. IIRC, this is a pretty known thing in most binkp implementations. When a connection is made, all matching AKAs are checked, and the first one to match begins the transfers.

I actually recommend people that connect here for multiple networks to do this. It just makes it easier on the whole process, and for both sides.

A repeating problem (also with Synchronet, which is odd - could be a different origin) was the @fidonet domain being added to FTN addresses,
due to config only being read once. There were lots of glitches with leftover files causing problems, too.

Husky silently not tossing messages has been a battle - due to things like area lines being in the wrong order, and also no tossed messages for 10 days due to not realising Agoranet packet passwords are blank (I should have remembered that one from Synchronet!). Other small issues here and there. Those are all my stuff to solve, though.

Ah, I see. I also use Synchronet, so I can attest that the configurations of both differ just enough to forget something in one or the other. ;)

There will be more glitches. It sure is fun, though.

That's all that matters (that you're enjoying it)!

Regards,
Accession

... Sarcasm, because beating people up is illegal.
--- AmberEdit/linux 0.9.4
* Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (46:1/100)

Hey Accession,

On 28/10/2026 18:05 Accession said...

Don't worry about trying to work that "bug" out. IIRC, this is a
pretty known thing in most binkp implementations. When a connection
is made, all matching AKAs are checked, and the first one to match
begins the transfers.

I actually recommend people that connect here for multiple networks
to do this. It just makes it easier on the whole process, and for
both sides.

Right, thanks. Good to know. It is not a big deal at all, and an easy fix compared to other stuff.

Ah, I see. I also use Synchronet, so I can attest that the
configurations of both differ just enough to forget something in one
or the other. ;)

Yeah.. just enough to make it confusing! But, solving these small glitches makes them satisfying to solve, too. It would actually be really interesting to revisit Synchronet once I am done with this, knowing what I know now. Which is still not that much :D

That's all that matters (that you're enjoying it)!

It's great! And I'm posting more, and actually interacting more with other boards now, too, having slopped this software together myself. I am more inspired to use it, with more perceived ownership of the project.

But - putting together (getting Claude to put together) my own BBS software is possibly the biggest piece of string I have ever encountered. Where do I stop with it? Each little feature I add isn't enough... I want more, MORE! :D

I should have named it Franken-BBS... Partially because I made it, and partially because in reality I didn't make it at all. Still fun, though.

Thanks again for your help :)


Randers

--- Krystal BBS Software
* Origin: Dumpster Dive - Victoria, Australia (46:30/106)

Randers wrote:

But - putting together (getting Claude to put together) my own BBS software is possibly the biggest piece of string I have ever encountered. Where do I stop with it? Each little feature I add isn't enough... I want more, MORE! :D

I should have named it Franken-BBS... Partially because I made it, and partially because in reality I didn't make it at all. Still fun, though.

Thats exactly what I'm doing over here on my board! I started with a port of iniquity and I just keep adding stuff to it!

-- phrac - disfluxbbs.com

--- flux/bbs 0.1.0
* Origin: disflux (46:1/115)

Hey Phrac,

On 29/10/2026 07:02 phrac said...

Thats exactly what I'm doing over here on my board! I started with a
port of iniquity and I just keep adding stuff to it!

-- phrac - disfluxbbs.com

It's fun eh? Hey wow - I just called. How on earth are you doing the shading and the slot machine animation. Is that Rip somehow? Very impressive. Have made an account. Keen to see more!!


Randers

--- Krystal BBS Software
* Origin: Dumpster Dive - Victoria, Australia (46:30/106)

Hey Randers!

On Thu, Oct 29 2026 19:51:26 +1100, you wrote:

It's great! And I'm posting more, and actually interacting more with other boards now, too, having slopped this software together myself. I am more inspired to use it, with more perceived ownership of the project.

But - putting together (getting Claude to put together) my own BBS
software is possibly the biggest piece of string I have ever encountered. Where do I stop with it? Each little feature I add isn't enough... I want more, MORE! :D

If you want, you could tell claude he's wrapping your text at the end of your screen, splitting words into pieces.. rather than keeping word boundaries in tact.

See? I can help you find more stuff to do! :)

Regards,
Accession

... Be kind to your kids, they'll be choosing your nursing home.
--- AmberEdit/linux 0.9.4
* Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (46:1/100)

Hey Accession,

On 29/10/2026 16:54 Accession said...

If you want, you could tell claude he's wrapping your text at the
end of your screen, splitting words into pieces.. rather than
keeping word boundaries in tact.

See? I can help you find more stuff to do! :)

Hahaha... well picked!! Love the feedback. Thanks. Definitely would not have noticed this myself visually.

This editor has been a nightmare. I'll get to work. Or, Claude will. :)

Thanks again.


Randers

--- Krystal BBS Software
* Origin: Dumpster Dive - Victoria, Australia (46:30/106)

Randers wrote:

Hey Phrac,

It's fun eh? Hey wow - I just called. How on earth are you doing the shading and the slot machine animation. Is that Rip somehow? Very impressive. Have made an account. Keen to see more!!

no! its all just ansi that i didn't know how to do 30 years ago but claude helped me figure it out. it helps that we have high speed connections, it would look terrible at our old baud rates (and take forever for a spin).

we really should move this convo to the appropriate place instead of the test area :)

-- phrac - disfluxbbs.com

--- flux/bbs 0.1.0
* Origin: disflux (46:1/115)

Hey Randers!

On Fri, Oct 30 2026 11:28:42 +1100, you wrote:

Hahaha... well picked!! Love the feedback. Thanks. Definitely would not have noticed this myself visually.

This editor has been a nightmare. I'll get to work. Or, Claude will. :)

Thanks again.

This one looked better. Did you already fix it?

Regards,
Accession

... I'm sarcastic, what's your superpower?
--- AmberEdit/linux 0.10.0
* Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (46:1/100)

Hey Accession,

On 30/10/2026 21:00 Accession said...

This one looked better. Did you already fix it?

Regards,
Accession

That reply was just carefully typed. I worked on this briefly this morning, and the issue should be fixed. But I am going to keep typing a really long line with no manual edits at all, to see how it goes. That should just about do it :)

The aesthetic fixes are ongoing. The editor/viewer has been a hard thing to polish. Allowing for quotes, and slight variations in how other people's editors work, without breaking how it looks has taken a lot of edits. I broke it along the way in that process.

Randers

--- Krystal BBS Software
* Origin: Dumpster Dive - Victoria, Australia (46:30/106)

Hey Randers!

On Sat, Oct 31 2026 14:10:40 +1100, you wrote:

That reply was just carefully typed. I worked on this briefly this
morning, and the issue should be fixed. But I am going to keep typing a really long line with no manual edits at all, to see how it goes. That should just about do it :)

I'm using a 160 column wide window for my editor/reader, so it seems you may be soft wrapping or breaking at your screen/window width? This is no big deal or anything, but then I took a look at my config file for my editor to see how it handles things like this; and it seems this may be an option you might be interested in looking into:

[ snip ]

Whether a paragraph is put back together before it is quoted. Optional; off by default; may be set per area in a group block.

Off, a quoted line carries the break the editor the message was written in put there, so answering a message written to a wider margin leaves a quote of two words to the line. On, the lines a paragraph was wrapped into are joined and the text is wrapped again at quote_margin.

The lines joined are the ones standing together at one quote level under the same initials, where the line above had no room left for the next line's first word. A blank line, a deeper quote, another writer's initials, anything indented or spaced into columns, and anything beginning a bullet or a numbered point all end a paragraph: those breaks are the writer's, and a table, a signature or a piece of ASCII art is quoted exactly as it stands either way.

quote_unwrap on

[ snip ]

Basically, unwrap the entire paragraph into a single line, and requote it within normal boundaries (ie. something like 78 columns for quoted text).

The aesthetic fixes are ongoing. The editor/viewer has been a hard thing
to polish. Allowing for quotes, and slight variations in how other
people's editors work, without breaking how it looks has taken a lot of edits. I broke it along the way in that process.

What I pasted above might be of interest to you, then. And hopefully can help a bunch of your struggles in that regard.

Randers[0m

Are you adding ANSI codes into your messages on purpose? If I remember right, your quoted text is usually.. bright blue (09)?

Regards,
Accession

... He who laughs last, thinks slowest.
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